IT Certifications and Careers (Official Discussion Thread)

[FreshFromATL]

Brehs, I just finished reading the best Java book I have ever read (took me about four days). Please do yourselves a favor and read this book if you are interested in a programming career. This is a GEM!! This will be in my library for a long time.

Introduction to Programming with Java: A Problem Solving Approach:

Spoiler

http://downloads.fzdownloads.com/attachments/44/8/8/1322685062-cythar-Introduction_to_Programming_with_Java__A_Problem_Solving_Approach_Summary_pdf.pdf

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Brehs, I just finished reading the best Java book I have ever read (took me about four days). Please do yourselves a favor and read this book if you are interested in a programming career. This is a GEM!! This will be in my library for a long time.

Introduction to Programming with Java: A Problem Solving Approach:

Spoiler

http://downloads.fzdownloads.com/attachments/44/8/8/1322685062-cythar-Introduction_to_Programming_with_Java__A_Problem_Solving_Approach_Summary_pdf.pdf

fukk Java

Spoiler

I hate programming

 

[Chris.B]

Brehs, I just finished reading the best Java book I have ever read (took me about four days). Please do yourselves a favor and read this book if you are interested in a programming career. This is a GEM!! This will be in my library for a long time.

Introduction to Programming with Java: A Problem Solving Approach:

Spoiler

http://downloads.fzdownloads.com/attachments/44/8/8/1322685062-cythar-Introduction_to_Programming_with_Java__A_Problem_Solving_Approach_Summary_pdf.pdf

I could have watched a video and learned everything you learned in 1 or 2 days.

lol at reading programing books

Took me 13 hrs to nail down bash video training is where it's at

 

[FreshFromATL]

I could have watched a video and learned everything you learned in 1 or 2 days.

lol at reading programing books

Took me 13 hrs to nail down bash video training is where it's at

Who cares breh, I like to read.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I am thinking about making the switch brehs. How long would it take for an IT breh to make ~75K starting from the bottom? I feel like I could get A+ and Network+ just from what I know now about computers. I'm OK to take a pay cut, just not for too long (>3-4yrs)

 

[se1f_made]

I am thinking about making the switch brehs. How long would it take for an IT breh to make ~75K starting from the bottom? I feel like I could get A+ and Network+ just from what I know now about computers. I'm OK to take a pay cut, just not for too long (>3-4yrs)

Man y'all are killing this thread with post like this or questions similar to "what's the best route to 6 figures in IT? ". Go back through and read what was posted earlier.
If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. If you're not truely interested in the field then your wasting your time as the IT wolves will eat u alive during interview demonstrations and you'll never get a call back. Dont believe what the people who dont work in the industry claims, IT is not a "hustle" and it takes dedication to your craft. If you're looking for a quick come up go be a promoter or rapper

 

[Data-Hawk]

I could have watched a video and learned everything you learned in 1 or 2 days.

lol at reading programing books

Took me 13 hrs to nail down bash video training is where it's at

LOL@Bash.......if you call that programming

 

[Chris.B]

LOL@Bash.......if you call that programming

I used bash because that's the easiest stuff out there....I do php and phython as well

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Man y'all are killing this thread with post like this or questions similar to "what's the best route to 6 figures in IT? ". Go back through and read what was posted earlier.
If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. If you're not truely interested in the field then your wasting your time as the IT wolves will eat u alive during interview demonstrations and you'll never get a call back. Dont believe what the people who dont work in the industry claims, IT is not a "hustle" and it takes dedication to your craft. If you're looking for a quick come up go be a promoter or rapper

I keep telling these nikkas that but they don't listen. You can make 40-50k in 2-3 years yeah, but if you trying to get 100k plus you're going to have to put in work. That means getting good experience, passing the right certs, and making a career plan. You're not gonna jump in with no exp, an A+ and be making 100k off the jump.

I still laugh whenever I think of this nikka

Recently graduated with my bachelors in Political Science...


Once I started looking at the job market and what I can actually do without going to law school I realized I probably made a mistake. I have a decent job right now but it's probably not what I'd want to do forever.

If I start studying and knocking out certs how marketable could I be for non-help desk jobs?

LOL@Bash.......if you call that programming

Did this fukk nikka just compare a basic scripting language to Java ? I swear some of y'all nikkas is borderline retarded.

 

[Data-Hawk]

I keep telling these nikkas that but they don't listen. You can make 40-50k in 2-3 years yeah, but if you trying to get 100k plus you're going to have to put in work. That means getting good experience, passing the right certs, and making a career plan. You're not gonna jump in with no exp, an A+ and be making 100k off the jump.

 

[Polofresh4]

A thank u to everyone in the thread again...
6 months i went from getting a finance degree to scrapping that and hopping into IT. I grabbed A+, net +, secur + and my CCNA.

I currently am in a Linux + class and a CEH class with a windows server 2008 class in june on my way to the degree in august.

Any suggestions on how to get into the industry jobwise? Im getting some bites on my resume but nothing in the support/help desk realm..

Anyone else in this situation or has been in the situation? What did u do?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

A thank u to everyone in the thread again...
6 months i went from getting a finance degree to scrapping that and hopping into IT. I grabbed A+, net +, secur + and my CCNA.

I currently am in a Linux + class and a CEH class with a windows server 2008 class in june on my way to the degree in august.

Any suggestions on how to get into the industry jobwise? Im getting some bites on my resume but nothing in the support/help desk realm..

Anyone else in this situation or has been in the situation? What did u do?

Keep sending out resumes breh. The hardest part is getting that first help desk job. The second hardest part is getting out of help desk. Just keep pushing, network with the cats in class with you, and ask them if they know of any good opportunities for people just starting out.

Also make sure your resume is on point. At this stage, your resume is all you have to go on, so it should be fukking perfect.

Also once you get a job, try not to be a fukk nikka. There's too many of em in IT already.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Man y'all are killing this thread with post like this or questions similar to "what's the best route to 6 figures in IT? ". Go back through and read what was posted earlier.
If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. If you're not truely interested in the field then your wasting your time as the IT wolves will eat u alive during interview demonstrations and you'll never get a call back. Dont believe what the people who dont work in the industry claims, IT is not a "hustle" and it takes dedication to your craft. If you're looking for a quick come up go be a promoter or rapper

I know I would be years away from making decent money. I'm OK with that. I do like working with computers and have always been good. I have an active interest in data mining and think that is where I would specialize. But I think I would also enjoy setting up data centers or just doing help desk stuff. Only branch I'm not really crazy about is security. I am just wondering if its worth a switch from mechanical engineering. What I do is OK and potentially a growth channel but not like IT.

And I'm sorry, I don't think its reasonable to demand that someone go through 1200 posts to find info. There are def entry level jobs out there for crazy low pay But I am just trying to see what paths are out there, what the typical timelines are and what I have to do to get on them. I work hard and do a lot of learning on my own, just looking for some direction/insight. What is the game like now?

 

[se1f_made]

I know I would be years away from making decent money. I'm OK with that. I do like working with computers and have always been good. I have an active interest in data mining and think that is where I would specialize. But I think I would also enjoy setting up data centers or just doing help desk stuff. Only branch I'm not really crazy about is security. I am just wondering if its worth a switch from mechanical engineering. What I do is OK and potentially a growth channel but not like IT.

And I'm sorry, I don't think its reasonable to demand that someone go through 1200 posts to find info. There are def entry level jobs out there for crazy low pay But I am just trying to see what paths are out there, what the typical timelines are and what I have to do to get on them. I work hard and do a lot of learning on my own, just looking for some direction/insight. What is the game like now?

If you're trying to get as much info on the subject, why not go through all the pages? Unless you have a med school, pharm d or some type of specialized degree the entry level pay will always be low. What makes IT so dope is the fact that its plenty room & many different tracks (all discussed in previous posts) for growth and opportunity. Not to mention, grad degrees aren't a requirement to get the gwuap.. its all about self disciplined learning and practice

Dont believe the hype, its takes hard work & dedication to get to the real money. If data mining is your thing, I suggest you study for the A+ or network+, join Linkedin, network with as many folks as possible, circulate your resume as much as possible (dice, monster, etc) then once you get that entry level job find books online covering SQL Server and learn as much while on the job as possible. Eventually you'll get that break but not without atleast 3-5 years at the helpdesk

 

[the bossman]

I know I would be years away from making decent money. I'm OK with that. I do like working with computers and have always been good. I have an active interest in data mining and think that is where I would specialize. But I think I would also enjoy setting up data centers or just doing help desk stuff. Only branch I'm not really crazy about is security. I am just wondering if its worth a switch from mechanical engineering. What I do is OK and potentially a growth channel but not like IT.

And I'm sorry, I don't think its reasonable to demand that someone go through 1200 posts to find info. There are def entry level jobs out there for crazy low pay But I am just trying to see what paths are out there, what the typical timelines are and what I have to do to get on them. I work hard and do a lot of learning on my own, just looking for some direction/insight. What is the game like now?

my motorcycle brethren, I have a group of friends that I barely made it thru EE (what a waste of time ) with back in undergrad who ended up jumping into IT after looking at the ceiling compared to traditional engineering. IT industry is so appealing because the possibilities are endless depending on your work ethic. For any engineering major, work ethic shouldnt be an issue. I been in IT for 4 years. If I had stuck with EE, to get where I'm at now salary wise (low six figures), I wouldve likely had to get in more debt for a Masters plus needed 5 or 6 years of experience while waiting for some old geezers to retire.

In IT there's so many different paths you can take. Think of it like working in the medical field. There's many different branches. Salary & expertise wise, you can go down the path of a nursing assistant or you could go down the path of a doctor if that's what you want.

Help desk.. it is what it is, you gotta get started somewhere. I would just advise you to spend no more than a year max at help desk. I don't know much about data mining, if thats the route you wanna go I'd advise you start learning database systems, SQL, etc. Because of cloud computing & hadoop/big data, data center skills (vmware/storage/network) are highly in demand.

There really is no typical timeline after help desk. Some cats stay in the helpdesk for 10 years, I know some who worked their asses off and wound up as enterprise architects at 200k in 5 years.

Being in a high COL area like NYC honestly it won't take you that long to break 75k at all if you're committed. If I was you I'd try to get a help desk job as the first step, get in, ask A LOT of questions to the people you escalate issues to. See what peaks your interest (security issues, system issues, network issues, storage, databases, app dev, etc.), dig deeper from there. study, get some certs, and a year tops, move on. Just dont get misguided and think u pass a couple certs and get easy money. That was 15 years ago and the market crashed. You get paid today by demonstrating your worth, companies could give 2 shyts about a cert, they wanna know how will your skills impact their business