IT Certifications and Careers (Official Discussion Thread)

[Shameonyou]

good luck breh. Programming's a biitch. Do research and stay ahead of the curve.

thanks bruh...what techniques you think can help me in this field? in terms of staying ahead of the curve?

 

[Kartel13]

thanks bruh...what techniques you think can help me in this field? in terms of staying ahead of the curve?

probably visit blogs and forums that pertain to programming to stay in the loop. Study and practice your ass off. Most programmers are self taught. The best advice I got was to build a website (if you're shooting for web development). Do something hands on.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

this was the type of shyt I should've been on last year. I went hard on CCIE voice studying from jan - june last year. took it and failed in july. came back determined to knock it out in december, but my girl ended up being a huge distraction on that ol "you always on your lab studying, you don't spend enough time with me" tip Tried to explain to her this shyt I'm doing is temporary in order to give me a huge career boost. Then holidays rolled aorund and a nikka aint touched his ccie lab since january

straight disgust when I look at myself in the mirror now . I need to get that fire back and tell my chick Im gonna finish this shyt so you need to either just chill till Im done or I invested too much not to finish it at this point

I wish my girl would tell me that. From jump I already told her she can easily be replaced, so she got her mind right thankfully. I'd recommend you letting your broad know that if she act out of pocket, her services will no longer be needed

 

[Shameonyou]

probably visit blogs and forums that pertain to programming to stay in the loop. Study and practice your ass off. Most programmers are self taught. The best advice I got was to build a website (if you're shooting for web development). Do something hands on.

I appreciate the advice man, one last question is it a field that has employment opportunities if there isn't schooling involved? what type of certs (if im trying to get into web development) should I shoot for?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I appreciate the advice man, one last question is it a field that has employment opportunities if there isn't schooling involved? what type of certs (if im trying to get into web development) should I shoot for?

The cert game really ain't as important to developers I don't think. But if I had to guess, decide which language you wanna focus on (java, dot net, etc) look up the vendor, and see what they have.

 

[Shameonyou]

The cert game really ain't as important to developers I don't think. But if I had to guess, decide which language you wanna focus on (java, dot net, etc) look up the vendor, and see what they have.

Oh I hear that thanks, also if the certs arent as important, is school the alternative?

how do you get in the game if certs arent the priority assuming I have a language picked to focus on?

 

[Kartel13]

Oh I hear that thanks, also if the certs arent as important, is school the alternative?

how do you get in the game if certs arent the priority assuming I have a language picked to focus on?

I wouldn't waste my time on school unless you know 100% that you want to go that route (as far as programming). Pick up some books, build a website, learn on your own, and if you enjoy doing it, look for some classes that may supplmenent your learning process. But don't fork over money when you have no clue what you're getting yourself into.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Oh I hear that thanks, also if the certs arent as important, is school the alternative?

how do you get in the game if certs arent the priority assuming I have a language picked to focus on?

I'm not a developer, so I can't really give you any advice unfortunately. Hopefully there's someone bout dat coding life can fill u in

 

[Omar Little]

So how do I get a help desk job brehs? or should I apply at call centers. Also anyone got some links for the A+ review?

 

[krexzen]

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This industry ain't built for the nikka who wants to be spoon fed. If that's you, you'll stay at the bottom helping nikkas troubleshoot why they're computer isn't working because the dummy forgot to turn it on :nonikkas:

But don't listen to me, I'm just another lost nikka

I had to do that shyt yesterday.


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P.S. If you get a help desk job, get used to handling the shyt in the quote above.

 

[Data-Hawk]

cool programming site i seen on Facebook.

code.org

On my Iphone so i cant give the response I want to, but yeah Programming certs dont hold the same weight as networking/security certs. I picked up a .Net cert book a few months back. and alot of it is testing on Syntax/features of the platform.Which is good and all but dont mean you can put the features to proper use or design a program properly. Plus add to the fact that for every programming problem theres a million ways to solve it.


For example: all my co-workers know the language they use, but alot of these b*stards continue to create single functions that do multiple things which makes debugging harder. , but see while I may hate it. Thats the way they've been doing things for years.

 

[kbtwofour]

any books you can recommend?

We used the latest version Programming and Logic Design for my class.

 

[Shameonyou]

We used the latest version Programming and Logic Design for my class.

what class was it? and is it pointless to try to get to programming if there is no degree related to IT attached to it? In terms of applying to jobs how does a newcomer have a shot if its a self taught process even if there is proof that you could do quality work?

thats where im having cold feet right now, im trying to get my foot in the door, but also have a good shot at getting employment if I work my ass off on my end.

 

[kbtwofour]

Oh I hear that thanks, also if the certs arent as important, is school the alternative?

how do you get in the game if certs arent the priority assuming I have a language picked to focus on?

Hold up, breh. Don't be listening to these IT guys when it comes to CS.

Take me advice and learn the logic first because you will need it in your career and will need it for the rest of your schooling.

Programming and debugging is not hard at all. It just takes time to do. Most people who major in CS don't want to do programming their whole life. Programming is not hard to learn if you're smart and are a quick learner.

Just learning programming on your own will not hold any weight in the industry unless you have a proven track record and have actually created some great software.

My advice would be to check to see if a community college around your area has a logic and design class for CS majors. This class will transfer to universities and the class will most likely be a 99% pre-req for any other class like C++, Java, etc. Most students who think they want to major in CS take this class because its an beginners class, but most don't pass or drop out before the midterm. Why would you want to do programming when a company can easily get someone like an intern or student to do it for free?

Certificates don't mean shyt... it's all about what have you done and what degrees you have. Right now I am interning for a company that Google bought, and nobody in that mother fukker has less than a bachelor's degree in CS. Most people in upper level management have masters or Ph.d's in CS.

 

[kbtwofour]

what class was it? and is it pointless to try to get to programming if there is no degree related to IT attached to it? In terms of applying to jobs how does a newcomer have a shot if its a self taught process even if there is proof that you could do quality work?

thats where im having cold feet right now, im trying to get my foot in the door, but also have a good shot at getting employment if I work my ass off on my end.

It was for programming, design, and logic class.

IT and CS are two completely different fields. They will easily over look you for someone who has a CS degree if you don't have a CS degree with no proven track record of creating something great.