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man i'm lookin for entry level jobs in my area and they all want like a year experience or a field related associates. smh. i'm kinda thinkin about just goin to school...do yall think that would be the best option?...like say. I got my A+ and lucked out and got a entry level help desk job. do yall think I would have a better chance at making good money straight off an associates degree in 2 years with no experience. or workin help desk for 2 years. I know a lot of it depends on the company and your own drive. but from the looks of it, it's gonna be extremely hard to break in without experience or a degree.

With or without a degree, that first job is gonna always be the hardest. I sent out at least 100 resumes before I got my 1st reply back saying "Thanks, but we're not hiring."

Being enrolled in school isn't going to get you a job. Having a degree will help but that's 2-4 years. Keep sending out resumes, and go after some more certs. I had my A+, CCNA, and MCP before getting my 1st gig. Stop being a fukk nikka breh
 

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Been studying for MCSE active directory cert since Sept. Not even gonna lie to y'all preparing for this is tough
 

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With or without a degree, that first job is gonna always be the hardest. I sent out at least 100 resumes before I got my 1st reply back saying "Thanks, but we're not hiring."

Being enrolled in school isn't going to get you a job. Having a degree will help but that's 2-4 years. Keep sending out resumes, and go after some more certs. I had my A+, CCNA, and MCP before getting my 1st gig. Stop being a fukk nikka breh

I have nothing but respect for this mans hustle :ohlawd:
 

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Over on the Physics Forums, someone said that it's not a good idea to list which programming languages you know on a resume or job application because it shows that you're not a good programmer. He said that what employers really want to know that you can pick up a new language in a relatively short period of time.

My question is, isn't listing which languages you're familiar with accomplishing that exact goal? So if I tell an employer that I know C++, Java, or Matlab, it indicates that I should have an easier time picking up, say, PHP, Visual Basic, or R?
 

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A+, im just starting out it seems easy enough

Good shyt breh :obama:

Been studying for MCSE active directory cert since Sept. Not even gonna lie to y'all preparing for this is tough

What's tripping you up? The design exams are the hardest IMO. The AD exams are just memorizing facts. The design exams want you to memorize how MS recommends doing shyt...Back in the Win 2000 MCSE days they used to call the design exam the beast :whoo:

Anyways, like I always tell dudes fukking with them MS certs, learn powershell. It'll be the differentiator between you getting the job nowadays (moreso than a cert IMO).

I have nothing but respect for this mans hustle :ohlawd:

On the real, reading some of these nikkas replies be having me like :what:

nikkas pass one cert, send out 3 resumes, then start complaining bout not having a job. I was working full time at bullshyt ass Target and going to school full time. I ain't have a car and I remember walking to and from work with the A+ book in my hand, reading it during lunch, and hiding it in aisles so I can sneak 4 minutes while pretending to work. I used to study my CCNA in between classes during exam week (English exam 1-2, study my CCNA, math exam 230-3, study my CCNA waiting for my people's to come pick me up).

Too many cats want quick results. shyt ain't a hustle, it's a career. You're at the bottom of the pile and you gotta grind to get to the top.
 

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With or without a degree, that first job is gonna always be the hardest. I sent out at least 100 resumes before I got my 1st reply back saying "Thanks, but we're not hiring."

Being enrolled in school isn't going to get you a job. Having a degree will help but that's 2-4 years. Keep sending out resumes, and go after some more certs. I had my A+, CCNA, and MCP before getting my 1st gig. Stop being a fukk nikka breh

you right:smugbiden:
 

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you right:smugbiden:

Keep grinding breh. Like I said earlier it's a career not a hustle. I was in your shoes bout 9 years ago.

=April 2003=
I remember passing my A+ and updating my bullshyt ass no experience having resume like ":jawalrus: all these jobs is gonna be on my dikk, watch b."

Months passed and nothing :to: My soul started to burn slower and I was like fukk it, Ima keep pushin. I started studying for my CCNA and was like "these nikkas gonna see my resume and be like :ohlawd:. I bet they jump on my dikk then"

=Jan 2004=
Passed my CCNA and sent out mad resumes knowing they was gonna offer me 50k off rip :takedat:

Nothing :sadcam: that was some powerful ether.

I kept pushing and was like "fukk it mayne, lemme go head and smash out this MCP, then Ima be :win: Ima pull it the club and show bytches my MCP card and they was gonna be like :noah:"

=June 04=
Went and knocked out the XP exam. Sent out my resume like "I'm killin the game right now! A+, CCNA, MCP. nikkas can't tell me shyt :salute:"

Nothing :sadbron: I was ready to commit that.

It wasn't until December 2004 that I got my first help desk gig paying 8.98/hr. Do the math. First cert in April 03, 1st gig in Dec 04. It took me 20 months from passing the A+ until getting my first job paying less than 19k a year before taxes.

So if I see another nikka complaining about not finding a job paying 50k just cause they passed their A+ 3 weeks earlier I'm negging them soon as the rep apocalypse is over
 

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Keep grinding breh. Like I said earlier it's a career not a hustle. I was in your shoes bout 9 years ago.

=April 2003=
I remember passing my A+ and updating my bullshyt ass no experience having resume like ":jawalrus: all these jobs is gonna be on my dikk, watch b."

Months passed and nothing :to: My soul started to burn slower and I was like fukk it, Ima keep pushin. I started studying for my CCNA and was like "these nikkas gonna see my resume and be like :ohlawd:. I bet they jump on my dikk then"

=Jan 2004=
Passed my CCNA and sent out mad resumes knowing they was gonna offer me 50k off rip :takedat:

Nothing :sadcam: that was some powerful ether.

I kept pushing and was like "fukk it mayne, lemme go head and smash out this MCP, then Ima be :win: Ima pull it the club and show bytches my MCP card and they was gonna be like :noah:"

=June 04=
Went and knocked out the XP exam. Sent out my resume like "I'm killin the game right now! A+, CCNA, MCP. nikkas can't tell me shyt"

Nothing :sadbron: I was ready to commit that.

It wasn't until December 2004 that I got my first help desk gig paying 8.98/hr. Do the math. First cert in April 03, 1st gig in Dec 04. It took me 20 months from passing the A+ until getting my first job paying less than 19k a year before taxes.

So if I see another nikka complaining about not finding a job paying 50k just cause they passed their A+ 3 weeks earlier I'm negging them soon as the rep apocalypse is over

You had it rough :wtf:

Damn breh, I was making over 15/hr before I even thought about getting a cert. Even my first IT job, call center tech support for an ISP (when I was still in college) paid 10/hr, and that was with no certs or experience. :russ:

Props on grinding though.
 

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You had it rough :wtf:

Damn breh, I was making over 15/hr before I even thought about getting a cert. Even my first IT job, call center tech support for an ISP (when I was still in college) paid 10/hr, and that was with no certs or experience. :russ:

Props on grinding though.

Not even complaining now Breh, made me into the beast I am now. Just got hit up for a Sr Security Engineer gig paying 100/hr :youngsabo: (12 racks a month :whew:)

Them skrippers gon love a nikka :noah:
 

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@bdizzle im studying for both the microsoft 70-680 and 70-685 exam right now...does it matter which one I pass first? or are they both looked at as equal when an employer checks out my resume to decide whether they want to hire me, just curious
 
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Over on the Physics Forums, someone said that it's not a good idea to list which programming languages you know on a resume or job application because it shows that you're not a good programmer. He said that what employers really want to know that you can pick up a new language in a relatively short period of time.

My question is, isn't listing which languages you're familiar with accomplishing that exact goal? So if I tell an employer that I know C++, Java, or Matlab, it indicates that I should have an easier time picking up, say, PHP, Visual Basic, or R?

Psh, sounds like a failed job application waiting to happen. One of the things you want at the top of your resume is what programming languages you know. When a a company is looking through resumes, one of the first things they want to know is what programming skills you have, which will be achieved by the list you mentioned, as well as project experience. If they want an idea of if your trainable or if you can pick stuff quickly, that's when they'll interview you. Just make sure you know something about all those languages. Cause if its on your resume, you will get a question about it.

I'm speaking from a programming job point of view. Maybe physicists care about different things when hiring a programmer.
 
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