IT Certifications and Careers (Official Discussion Thread)

[Donald J Trump]

Man its like its hard for a young brother from Louisiana to get more info on this type of stuff, these type of jobs were never held by any family members

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Man its like its hard for a young brother from Louisiana to get more info on this type of stuff, these type of jobs were never held by any family members

I spoke about this in the middle class and blacks thread. We have to be the trailblazers. All I can suggest is research and networking. Keep reaching to people that do have an idea and you will be told some good info.

 

[Donald J Trump]

I spoke about this in the middle class and blacks thread. We have to be the trailblazers. All I can suggest is research and networking. Keep reaching to people that do have an idea and you will be told some good info.

Yea man its like most of my people were either blue collar or criminal, my dad broke the mold by being an engineer, but its like I ask people about jobs and they look at me crazy when i sayy "i just want a job at your company whatever your hiring"

like i dont even know what the entry level position is called if i wanted to go into project management, or app development, see what I'm saying?

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Yea man its like most of my people were either blue collar or criminal, my dad broke the mold by being an engineer, but its like I ask people about jobs and they look at me crazy when i sayy "i just want a job at your company whatever your hiring"

like i dont even know what the entry level position is called if i wanted to go into project management, or app development, see what I'm saying?

Do some reading up on this type of stuff here

http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oessrci.htm

Also, for whatever industry you try to enter, simply Google things like "career path for____ degree or certificate"

 

[Ice_MF_Mike]

@King Sun @kevm3 and anyone else this is what nationwide has..like i said im a business major with limited experience and im doing the codeacademy...my hookup said alot of people dont take these jobs so they are always hiring
i wanna know which ones are easiest and hardest, which one pays the most...etc etc

also, dude said i dont need any experience, they train us and we get certs along the way..help me decide brehs
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I would probably do Business Consulting and Operations. The closer you are to the business the more money there is. That would be great experience imo.

 

[kevm3]

Depends on what you want more. If you're into programming, go with the application developer role. If you are more interested in the business side of things, go with the business role. Me, personally, I'd take the application developer internship, but then again, I love programming.

 

[Donald J Trump]

Depends on what you want more. If you're into programming, go with the application developer role. If you are more interested in the business side of things, go with the business role. Me, personally, I'd take the application developer internship, but then again, I love programming.

So im assuming you know HTML and CSS..what other things do you know, how long did it take you to learn each...where did you get your CERTS from

 

[kevm3]

So im assuming you know HTML and CSS..what other things do you know, how long did it take you to learn each...where did you get your CERTS from

I know HTML/CSS and Javascript fairly well. I know a bit of Java, C#, and Ruby but I'm not proficient in those languages.

I don't have any certs. IT is where you need certs. With programming, you don't need certs. You need to create a portfolio of demonstrable projects or at least have some resource where someone can see that you know what you are talking about, such as a blog where you can intimately explore various topics on programming.

How long it will take you will depend on how much time and effort you put into it. Learning the basics of HTML and CSS should take you about a month to three months. HTML/CSS isn't that difficult to learn to use fairly effectively.

Javascript takes much longer. I've been studying it for a bit over a year.

If you want to learn them, you need to buy and read a lot of books and practice the concepts therein. Also, maybe videos from some place like codeschool might help out. Codecademy was great to learn the basics of HTML/CSS/Javascript. Past that, read, practice, read, practice, and read and practice some more.

 

[Donald J Trump]

I know HTML/CSS and Javascript fairly well. I know a bit of Java, C#, and Ruby but I'm not proficient in those languages.

I don't have any certs. IT is where you need certs. With programming, you don't need certs. You need to create a portfolio of demonstrable projects or at least have some resource where someone can see that you know what you are talking about, such as a blog where you can intimately explore various topics on programming.

How long it will take you will depend on how much time and effort you put into it. Learning the basics of HTML and CSS should take you about a month to three months. HTML/CSS isn't that difficult to learn to use fairly effectively.

Javascript takes much longer. I've been studying it for a bit over a year.

If you want to learn them, you need to buy and read a lot of books and practice the concepts therein. Also, maybe videos from some place like codeschool might help out. Codecademy was great to learn the basics of HTML/CSS/Javascript. Past that, read, practice, read, practice, and read and practice some more.

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it breh

ok ok so you say you dont have certs, but if you wanted some, where would you go? is there some online school you know about?

 

[FreshFromATL]

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it breh

ok ok so you say you dont have certs, but if you wanted some, where would you go? is there some online school you know about?

Breh, you need to figure out what it is you want to do at a granular level and then come back and ask questions on how to get there.

 

[Donald J Trump]

Breh, you need to figure out what it is you want to do and then come back and ask questions on how to get there.

My bad brehs forgive my ignorance, right now Imma just learn html and css

 

[FreshFromATL]

My bad brehs forgive my ignorance, right now Imma just learn html and css

If you're gonna do that then forget about certs, they won't be needed. If you want to work on IT infrastructure, then look into certs. I would suggest reading a blog or taking a class to learn about technology in general and the roles it play in the business world, then figure out where you want to be. You're too high-level (broad) right now. Find a specific segment and master it, then get paid.

 

[Donald J Trump]

If you're gonna do that then forget about certs, they won't be needed. If you want to work on IT infrastructure, then look into certs. I would suggest reading a blog or taking a class to learn about technology in general and the roles it play in the business world, then figure out where you want to be. You're too high-level (broad) right now. Find a specific segment and master it, then get paid.

I think with this internship I'm going to get I need to focus on certs then...where would you start first?

 

[FreshFromATL]

I think with this internship I'm going to get I need to focus on certs then...where would you start first?

I don't have any certs, I couldn't tell you. I've been on the development side of things my whole career.

 

[kevm3]

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it breh

ok ok so you say you dont have certs, but if you wanted some, where would you go? is there some online school you know about?

There is generally a difference between "IT" and in programming/development based jobs. IT is more along the lines of networking, computer repair, computer security, etc. Programming/developement is in creating software. In IT, that's where you need your certs as 'demonstrable evidence' of your competency.

If you're programming, it's more akin to getting a job in the art world. Your portfolio matters more than degrees. Show me your portfolio and show me your skills. There are no real 'programming certs' that are valued like that. A computer science degree can help, but that's not necessary. It's more along the lines of show me what you can do or show me what you have done.

My advice to you is to whittle down what you want to do and pursue that hardcore. When I first started, I was exploring all kinds of things. I ultimately found that I didn't really care for the IT side of the equation after I went through an A+ book. I found that programming is for me and went after it hardcore. You have to whittle down and find out exactly what it is that you want to do and start eliminating things you don't like so you can have a focus. Trying to do everything at once will not be helpful because you only have so many hours in a day, so you need to spend them on something you know you want to do.