It usually depends on who's running the show in that IT Department. I've worked at places where the person making the hiring decision was an complete idiot and would only hire friends. The vast majority of hiring decisions come down to whether they like your personality or not because almost anyone can be trained to do an job.
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It usually depends on who's running the show in that IT Department. I've worked at places where the person making the hiring decision was an complete idiot and would only hire friends. The vast majority of hiring decisions come down to whether they like your personality or not because almost anyone can be trained to do an job.
Alright, cool cool. Yea, developing apps and whatnot are awesome. I got pulled in because of game dev, but actually developing apps to solve client issues is actually quite gratifying.
So tips for anything to do while in school...
The best thing you can do is open source development or work on a side project that involves other parties. Preferably, the other parties would be helping you develop. This shows you can work with others, and it'll teach you some of the politics around software development, especially version control. Also learn some Project Development methodologies (Waterfall, iterative, scrum, etc...)
Make sure to network with a lot of your CS classmates. Realize that some might not be as social as you, but some of these people are brilliant in how they put together algorithms. And you'll learn alot.
As for Databases, Sql is basically what you'll need to know. I got lucky and learned actual database design at my first job. Once you learn SQL, though, you'll wonder why more people don't know it. While the queries can get a little involved, for the most part, its probably easier to put together a sql script vs writing up a hello world app in compiled language
If you want to mess around with databases, you can get Sqlserver and also check out w3schools.com. They have alot of scrpting language basics.
Just holla at us on here if you have any questions. Also, check out Stackoverflow.com
Cerner is a bytch, but it's relatively new so there will be some training involved. Luckily it looks like u will be a middle man between helpdesk and Cerner support which is easy as fukk. Helpdesk hits u with a problem, let's say....
A network printer can't print on the Cerner. Printer looks fine on ur end, so it's probably a issue with the natted printer on their end. U put in SR with Cerner, and wait until they fix it. All u basically do is put in tickets. But u have to know enough about the application to actually communicate with their tech support...and their support is horrible.
Ur best bet in the interview is to keep expressing ur willingness to learn, and how quickly u adapt to shyt. That's pretty much all they are looking for with that type of position.
Edit: I just read that u already did a intern there so u should be good. They should already know that u are a smart guy and this isn't a very demanding position. It's so easy that we trained 8 nurses with hardly any computer skills to do that job when we first rolled out Cerner. Took like 2 weeks and they had that shyt down, mostly because they were familiar with the terminology already. They have been the handling it for about a year and a half with NO problem.
ahomeplateslugger
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bigmanharris
Coli Gangsta
Oh yeah youtube is a good source for learning to code people. I took a Java course, but my instructor was Indian and it was hard understanding him at times. I took notes and then supplemented my lessons with youtube videos. For java the mybringback channel was good for me.
iceberg_is_on_fire
Wearing Lions gear when it wasn't cool
Question, do you or do you not use your education in your email signature?
Like, mine is Joe Blow, MBA. Obviously not my real name but I do have an MBA. I've read in some places that its tacky and some places its not. Some of the justifications for it not being tacky is in the case of people like me, a black man, it shows that I'm actually on my grind and not part of the 50% of black men that does not even have a high school diploma. Your thoughts?
Like, mine is Joe Blow, MBA. Obviously not my real name but I do have an MBA. I've read in some places that its tacky and some places its not. Some of the justifications for it not being tacky is in the case of people like me, a black man, it shows that I'm actually on my grind and not part of the 50% of black men that does not even have a high school diploma. Your thoughts?
Rayzah
I'm Everywhere you ain't never there
Ok I have been doing tier 2 desktop support for like 5 years now, I'm ready to get out, I have my sec + i'm working on my cyber security degree. my question is how do I get a job in security or what should be my next step up to get the experience i need to get there...
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Rayzah
I'm Everywhere you ain't never there
It wasn't hard if you get the study guide.. Ofcourse you can just do the examcram..
I'm not in security but I came from helpdesk like most people. That shyt is like black hole, and only the chosen few can make it out. What worked for me was job hopping. Eventually u will find something where ur duties will overlap with the job u really want to do. Just applying for jobs in security will be tough because there will always be guys with actual experience applying for the same shyt.
Ur best bet is to find a helpdesk position with alot more responsibilities and freedom and then go from there.
Or u can do what ALOT of people do and just lie on ur resume. I've worked with a bunch of people who came into a position without a clue or what they were doing and then learned on the job. The only explanation was they lied on their resume to get the position.
I'm still trying to figure out how to escape the helpdesk.
But you're right, I've come to the conclusion that I'll have to job hop. I don't particularly dislike where I work but there's just no room to move up; nobody ever leaves and nobody trains anybody.
Data-Hawk
I have no strings on me.
I'd recommend against it. esp if you are emailing the same people alot..lol
You'll have to job hop because most likely. Most companies don't care enough about IT Security to even create an dedicated position for it.
The Feds are constantly looking for IT Security folks but you have the barrier of needing an security clearance. And they only want specialized experience for the most part. So if you don't have experience on the exact technologies they use forget about getting hired.
Do anybody know cerner for hospitals?
I know the basics of it....
I sat in on the initial meetings but after I while I couldn't take it anymore and stopped going. But there isn't much u have to do on the helpdesk side, everything is ran thru a citrix client on their shyt in Kansas(I think....).