IT Certifications and Careers (Official Discussion Thread)

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so graduated in May '16, spent from then to Oct '18 at a couple retail spots. Dont really wanna include the Retail Stores or should I? its a 2 years
I would include them, maybe embellish to say entry level or contractual help desk. Worked in a fast paced environment, assisted customers, troubleshot issues and managed complaints, escalated where necessary, etc. Technically it’s apart of the job, but not THE job if that makes sense.
 

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I would include them, maybe embellish to say entry level or contractual help desk. Worked in a fast paced environment, assisted customers, troubleshot issues and managed complaints, escalated where necessary, etc. Technically it’s apart of the job, but not THE job if that makes sense.
forgot to add more context, there was about 3 different clothing stores :russ:l lasted like 6 months at each before quitting
 

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Thinking of a Cybersecurity Career? Read This — Krebs on Security

Virtually every week KrebsOnSecurity receives at least one email from someone seeking advice on how to break into cybersecurity as a career. In most cases, the aspirants ask which certifications they should seek, or what specialization in computer security might hold the brightest future.

Rarely am I asked which practical skills they should seek to make themselves more appealing candidates for a future job. And while I always preface any response with the caveat that I don’t hold any computer-related certifications or degrees myself, I do speak with C-level executives in cybersecurity and recruiters on a regular basis and frequently ask them for their impressions of today’s cybersecurity job candidates.

A common theme in these C-level executive responses is that a great many candidates simply lack hands-on experience with the more practical concerns of operating, maintaining and defending the information systems which drive their businesses.

Granted, most people who have just graduated with a degree lack practical experience. But happily, a somewhat unique aspect of cybersecurity is that one can gain a fair degree of mastery of hands-on skills and foundational knowledge through self-directed study and old fashioned trial-and-error.

One key piece of advice I nearly always include in my response to readers involves learning the core components of how computers and other devices communicate with one another. I say this because a mastery of networking is a fundamental skill that so many other areas of learning build upon. Trying to get a job in security without a deep understanding of how data packets work is a bit like trying to become a chemical engineer without first mastering the periodic table of elements.

But please don’t take my word for it. The SANS Institute, a Bethesda, Md. based security research and training firm, recently conducted a survey of more than 500 cybersecurity practitioners at 284 different companies in an effort to suss out which skills they find most useful in job candidates, and which are most frequently lacking.

The survey asked respondents to rank various skills from “critical” to “not needed.” Fully 85 percent ranked networking as a critical or “very important” skill, followed by a mastery of the Linux operating system (77 percent), Windows (73 percent), common exploitation techniques (73 percent), computer architectures and virtualization (67 percent) and data and cryptography (58 percent). Perhaps surprisingly, only 39 percent ranked programming as a critical or very important skill (I’ll come back to this in a moment).

How did the cybersecurity practitioners surveyed grade their pool of potential job candidates on these critical and very important skills? The results may be eye-opening:



“Employers report that student cybersecurity preparation is largely inadequate and are frustrated that they have to spend months searching before they find qualified entry-level employees if any can be found,” said Alan Paller, director of research at the SANS Institute. “We hypothesized that the beginning of a pathway toward resolving those challenges and helping close the cybersecurity skills gap would be to isolate the capabilities that employers expected but did not find in cybersecurity graduates.”

The truth is, some of the smartest, most insightful and talented computer security professionals I know today don’t have any computer-related certifications under their belts. In fact, many of them never even went to college or completed a university-level degree program.
 

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Juniper Networks offers free training videos, practice tests, and vouchers (entry level only) for some of their certification exams. Juniper is a very distant second to Cisco, but you will still find the occasional JNCIA listing for network and network security jobs. A lot of service providers use Juniper devices.

All you have to do is sign up for Junos Genius and/or download the app. After watching the videos and doing the practice tests you can use the voucher to schedule a free exam at Pearson Vue. If you are already solid with the basic fundamentals, then you can probably knock these out in a couple of weeks. There’s no harm in having JNCIA certifications in Networking, Security, DevOps, and/or Cloud at no cost.

Junos Genius - Juniper Networks
Juniper vLabs - Juniper Networks
 

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SHOOK for this Sec+ test brehs......good thing I didn't book the test yet :mindblown: got through the Messer videos and am still going through the Gibson book but this shyt is boring and tiring as hell :mindblown: not to mention it seems like so much information to pack in and remember :damn: and I keep hearing that the exam is even more difficult than the practice tests, shyt
Use Anki
 

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This week makes six months I’ve been in a help desk IT role. We’re remote until January but I’m definitely trying to move into a different role or company by then.
I lasted 5 months my first helpdesk role. One more month and would've jumped from a 2nd story window.

You knocked out any certs yet?
 

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I lasted 5 months my first helpdesk role. One more month and would've jumped from a 2nd story window.

You knocked out any certs yet?
Right now studying for network +. I’m trying to strengthen my networking skills and understanding. I have the sec + which got me this job and it’s not hard but you feel like a robot some days.
 

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Thinking of a Cybersecurity Career? Read This — Krebs on Security

Virtually every week KrebsOnSecurity receives at least one email from someone seeking advice on how to break into cybersecurity as a career. In most cases, the aspirants ask which certifications they should seek, or what specialization in computer security might hold the brightest future.

Rarely am I asked which practical skills they should seek to make themselves more appealing candidates for a future job. And while I always preface any response with the caveat that I don’t hold any computer-related certifications or degrees myself, I do speak with C-level executives in cybersecurity and recruiters on a regular basis and frequently ask them for their impressions of today’s cybersecurity job candidates.

A common theme in these C-level executive responses is that a great many candidates simply lack hands-on experience with the more practical concerns of operating, maintaining and defending the information systems which drive their businesses.

Granted, most people who have just graduated with a degree lack practical experience. But happily, a somewhat unique aspect of cybersecurity is that one can gain a fair degree of mastery of hands-on skills and foundational knowledge through self-directed study and old fashioned trial-and-error.

One key piece of advice I nearly always include in my response to readers involves learning the core components of how computers and other devices communicate with one another. I say this because a mastery of networking is a fundamental skill that so many other areas of learning build upon. Trying to get a job in security without a deep understanding of how data packets work is a bit like trying to become a chemical engineer without first mastering the periodic table of elements.

But please don’t take my word for it. The SANS Institute, a Bethesda, Md. based security research and training firm, recently conducted a survey of more than 500 cybersecurity practitioners at 284 different companies in an effort to suss out which skills they find most useful in job candidates, and which are most frequently lacking.

The survey asked respondents to rank various skills from “critical” to “not needed.” Fully 85 percent ranked networking as a critical or “very important” skill, followed by a mastery of the Linux operating system (77 percent), Windows (73 percent), common exploitation techniques (73 percent), computer architectures and virtualization (67 percent) and data and cryptography (58 percent). Perhaps surprisingly, only 39 percent ranked programming as a critical or very important skill (I’ll come back to this in a moment).

How did the cybersecurity practitioners surveyed grade their pool of potential job candidates on these critical and very important skills? The results may be eye-opening:



“Employers report that student cybersecurity preparation is largely inadequate and are frustrated that they have to spend months searching before they find qualified entry-level employees if any can be found,” said Alan Paller, director of research at the SANS Institute. “We hypothesized that the beginning of a pathway toward resolving those challenges and helping close the cybersecurity skills gap would be to isolate the capabilities that employers expected but did not find in cybersecurity graduates.”

The truth is, some of the smartest, most insightful and talented computer security professionals I know today don’t have any computer-related certifications under their belts. In fact, many of them never even went to college or completed a university-level degree program.

Maaaannn I hate articles like this. Absolutely hate them lol. Most people just need a chance. I am testament of this. Someone hired me at a Senior level strictly of potential, not because I was the most experience. They trusted my knowledge and grind.

With proper support a motivated individual will "get it". The people that got in without a degree or certs people took a chance on them too.

The months spent looking for a candidate could have been spent training someone.
 

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With my job become less stressful and easier time to master new skill sets.

Google Kubernetes Engine Security - Denver, CO - Indeed.com

70 damn dollars per hour if you can master kubernetes security :wow:.

I am trying to double up on Two remote job. I dont see my company forcing us to the office especially if it means they will lose talent who to more remote friendly companies.
 

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Fellas. Any way to finesse what you did at the previous job to match more of what you learned from self study? wanna add that i did more devops stuff that i can do with ease just dont want them speaking with the manager and asking about.

Doubt they ask your manager. Going forward all that matters is your title. A security Engineer can be anything. If I learn aws security in and out lol you cant tell me shyt if I can answer all your question.

It's only a problem, if you embellish and dont know what you are talking about.
 
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