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breh im basically the it management/ director/ whatever already. they (average age of 60 yr old cacs) refer to me with anything it related. purchasing new equipment, running cables, setting up voip phones and transitioning us to cloud saas , printer problems, everything.

either way , imma get laughed at by the next job when they see how basic shyt the "head of IT" was doing for 5 years . crazy that i gotta study and lab cuz i cant get real world experience

i think imma say fucc it and drive the 80+ miles to austin or dallas for a real IT job, just gonna have to be nights and weekends cuz im not quitting this easy one just yet .
Most Security Officers or IT Directors don't know shyt about Security. I'm trying to get into one of those Management level jobs where I don't have to know everything about Security. Just enough to hire the right people to get the job done correctly.

And most other managers don't want really technical people working alongside them anyway. Because it makes them feel stupid about technology which they usually are.

The goal should always be to get into decision making roles over everything.
These are the people who are truly untouchable inside an organization.

If that job pays well and is stable just make them pay for training classes. That way you can stay up-to-date while not ending up at some shyt show company. Remember the turnover rate in most IT Security Departments is skyhigh because it's such a shyt job. I've had about 5 different cybersecurity roles and they've progressively gotten worse at each stop.
 

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Most Security Officers or IT Directors don't know shyt about Security. I'm trying to get into one of those Management level jobs where I don't have to know everything about Security. Just enough to hire the right people to get the job done correctly.

And most other managers don't want really technical people working alongside them anyway. Because it makes them feel stupid about technology which they usually are.

The goal should always be to get into decision making roles over everything.
These are the people who are truly untouchable inside an organization.


If that job pays well and is stable just make them pay for training classes. That way you can stay up-to-date while not ending up at some shyt show company. Remember the turnover rate in most IT Security Departments is skyhigh because it's such a shyt job. I've had about 5 different cybersecurity roles and they've progressively gotten worse at each stop.


I always thought that people closer to the job is who is actually untouchable. I feel like this because every day, I honestly feel more valuable at my job since i am always learning something new. You can always replace a decision maker.

My goal is to eventually work for one the big boys like Amazon.
 

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I always thought that people closer to the job is who is actually untouchable. I feel like this because every day, I honestly feel more valuable at my job since i am always learning something new. You can always replace a decision maker.

My goal is to eventually work for one the big boys like Amazon.
It doesn't matter how smart you are or how a great job you do. Companies will always think they can replace you with anyone off the street. Who they won't try to replace is management types because these guys all have dirt on each other.

I've seen IT Departments with a turnover rate close to 80% but nobody blinks an eye about it. Everyone is expendable to upper management. Why do you think so many companies outsource work to 3rd world countries? To most companies the IT Department is just a cost center.
 

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This is why you keep your skills up to date. And be willing to relocate for a better opportunities. You never know when these companies might just outsource your job.

Vanguard transfers 1,300 staffers to outsourcing partner Infosys, which will open a Malvern center

Vanguard transfers 1,300 staffers to outsourcing partner Infosys, which will open a Malvern center
by Joseph N. DiStefano, Posted: July 14, 2020- 3:47 PM
I was just speculating this morning with my guy that they might do the same to us. My team is about to get moved under another manager to consolidate some of the application development. I know that guy has a lot of contractors under him, so it's not a far step for them to move us under that company, and then cancel the contract shortly thereafter.
 

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I was just speculating this morning with my guy that they might do the same to us. My team is about to get moved under another manager to consolidate some of the application development. I know that guy has a lot of contractors under him, so it's not a far step for them to move us under that company, and then cancel the contract shortly thereafter.
My last job made a ton of money in the education sector. I didn't even wait around for things to get really bad before switching jobs to a different industry.

I would look at how well your company is doing versus any of their competitors. Right now with earnings taking a massive hit companies are gonna reduce headcount before anything else. Upgrading your resume now is paramount along with taking any all training classes you can.

Once the pandemic started getting really bad in early March. I had a new job by May in a different industry that pays more money. My old Boss was pissed because he still hasn't filled my old position yet. But this is Business nothing personal.
 

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It doesn't matter how smart you are or how a great job you do. Companies will always think they can replace you with anyone off the street. Who they won't try to replace is management types because these guys all have dirt on each other.

I've seen IT Departments with a turnover rate close to 80% but nobody blinks an eye about it. Everyone is expendable to upper management. Why do you think so many companies outsource work to 3rd world countries? To most companies the IT Department is just a cost center.

I get it, part of my colleagues are in Romania and India. Much cheaper hire there. One of the reason why I will eventually move on. Most of our new openings are in India or Romania. My goal is to work for a fan after I get all the fundamentals down.
 

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Red Hat Certified Sys Admin exam is $400 :dwillhuh:very comprehensive but too goddamn expensive
What's $400 to a 20-50k salary bump? You need to let go of this mindset.. You're investing in yourself for the next 5-7 years at least.. $400 is nothing... there's bread out here breh, don't worry about the minor technicalities.. just keep pushin



On a different note: Packer+Ansible+Terraform+Docker/k8s... making infrastructure your bytch..:wow:

lots of gui-next-clicking techs managing infra are gonna take paycuts on the other side of this economic downturn if they don't up their skillset.
 
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Red Hat Certified Sys Admin exam is $400 :dwillhuh:very comprehensive but too goddamn expensive
That's cheap compared to what SANS charges $1,400 per exam without the class. A freaking ripoff if you ask me for what they teach.
 

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I don't know if I believe this list because who gives a shyt about Google cloud? Why no OSCP or SANS cybersecurity certs?

The 15 top-paying certifications of 2020

The 15 most valuable IT certifications today
Looking for a leg up in your IT career? Here are the most valuable IT certifications you can earn to boost your salary in 2020.

By Sarah K. White
Senior Writer, CIO
JUL 3, 2020 3:00 AM PT

Certifications and skills can boost your salary, set you apart from the competition and help you land promotions in your current role. According to the Global Knowledge 2019 IT Skills and Salary Report, the average IT professional in North America earns $109,985 per year, which is 27 percent higher than the average salary in the U.S.

Over 85 percent of IT professionals hold a certification and 66 percent say they plan to obtain a new certification this year, according to the report. The average IT salary increases with each certification earned. IT professionals with one certification earn an average salary of $106,780 per year, while those with six or more report an average of $117,212 per year. This year, cloud computing and security take center stage as some of the highest-earning certifications on the list.

The 15 most valuable certifications for 2020
  • Google Certified Professional (GCP) Cloud Architect
  • AWS Certified Solutions Architect – Associate
  • Certified Information Security Manager (CISM)
  • Certified in Risk and Information Systems Control (CRISC)
  • Certified Information Systems Security Professional (CISSP)
  • Certified Information Systems Auditor (CISA)
  • AWS Certified Cloud Practitioner
  • VMware Certified Professional 6 – Data Center Virtualization (VCP6-DCV)
  • Project Management Professional (PMP)
  • ITIL Foundation
  • Microsoft Certified: Azure Fundamentals
  • Microsoft Certified: Azure Administrator Associate
  • Citrix Certified Associate – Networking (CCA-N)
  • CCNP Enterprise Certification (formerly CCNP Routing and Switching)
  • Citrix Certified Professional – Virtualization (CCP-V)
 
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