Issa Rae's new show is black male bashing propaganda

[Originalman]

A person in this thread asked a pertinent question. Why. Are we the only people who highlight our issues? What does that do to a groups self-esteem? Or their own perception of themselves. Is it not possible for a cycle to form from this? Yes we need to do better, but we aren't all doing horribly in terms of behavior.

Breh I have no problem with the issues being highlight. But half the time it is a damn joke and not done as a serious issue with thinking of ways to address it.

Take some of the serious issues that was done on the Cosby show or a different world and how it was handled.

But your overall premise is right. Tv ans shows now a days follow the threes company formula (comedies that is). Don't address serious issues and do stupid shyt for 30 minutes.

Look back at the 70s and how the white and black shows addressed serious issues. Once the 80s came the white shows threw that in the trash where as the black shows continued to deal with serious issues.

However by the late 2000s even black shows stopped dealing with serious issues as much. Then when they dealt with them it was more tongue and cheek.

 

[315]

What?

 

[Originalman]

But love and hip hop, basketball wives, and these other glorified minstrel shows with broads as the stars are going strong though?

I totally agree. Either it is the black frats/soros as a whole didn't want their names thrown in the mud with negativity. Or they got enough common sense to understand how much a bad image can hurt them.

One of the two or both.

But you right all those reality shows are trash. The fukked up part legitimate shows or suppose to be legitimate use those reality stars as cross over shows for them....check ilyana fix my life.

 

[Draje]

Don't we have an entire meme dedicated to not settling down and getting married?

Isn't one of the most commonly spouted lines of dialogue on this board about being a successful black male is that black men have a variety of sexual options and that it's usually a bad idea to settle down?

I think Issa Rae has bedwench tendencies but let's keep it a stack.

 

[Neuromancer]

The scene where he allows his white friend to call him "nikka" still annoys me.

I think that was done on purpose because he's not seen as black enough. You can tell he was disturbed by it.

 

[Matt504]

Don't we have an entire meme dedicated to not settling down and getting married?

Isn't one of the most commonly spouted lines of dialogue on this board about being a successful black male is that black men have a variety of sexual options and that it's usually a bad idea to settle down?

I think Issa Rae has bedwench tendencies but let's keep it a stack.

Fam, it's incredible to see the responses in threads like this.

All I can do is

 

[Rekkapryde]

I totally agree. Either it is the black frats/soros as a whole didn't want their names thrown in the mud with negativity. Or they got enough common sense to understand how much a bad image can hurt them.

One of the two or both.

But you right all those reality shows are trash. The fukked up part legitimate shows or suppose to be legitimate use those reality stars as cross over shows for them....check ilyana fix my life.

I knew that black frat/sorority shyt wasn't gonna ride. At least they have some sense. The rest of these hypocritcal thots though

 

[Originalman]

The scene where he allows his white friend to call him "nikka" still annoys me.

That is why I don't even fukk with FX ever since the shield and the CAC cop calling people N-words. fukk that network.

 

[Neuromancer]

Why shouldn't we highlight our issues?

"Other people don't do it" is a terrible reason.

If highlighting our issues harms the group's self esteem, it stands to reason that it's because the group realizes that our issues are problematic and need to be addressed. Hiding the problem does not address the problem. Pretending these people do not exist do not address the problem.

But why do we pretend that the opposite of these people don't exist. Why do we do that?

 

[Concerning VLoLence]

Fam, it's incredible to see the responses in threads like this.

All I can do is

Why don't you respond to my argument instead of posting smileys.

 

[Neuromancer]

Why shouldn't we highlight our issues?

"Other people don't do it" is a terrible reason.

If highlighting our issues harms the group's self esteem, it stands to reason that it's because the group realizes that our issues are problematic and need to be addressed. Hiding the problem does not address the problem. Pretending these people do not exist do not address the problem.

AlSo you never answered my question about black speculative fiction.

 

[Neuromancer]

Also black creators are forced to add people who they don't interact with in their work for mass appeal because others think it's "important " my writing partner came to me with this same sentence for a comic we're writing. This happens a lot in black comics and sci-fi media. So why do we have to do this?

@Matt504

 

[Dwolf]

I love Atlanta it's alternative comedy which is great but question, how is the perceived negative stereotypes that are in Issa rates show (haven't watched gonna watch tho) any different than the ones in Atlanta? Main character urn is homeless (can't take care of his kid or responsibilities. His girlfriend and parents take care of him), cousin sells drugs raps and shot someone the first episode, the funny dude is always stoned. These aren't exactly good depictions of black men aside from their dialogue which I do love.

Alternative how?

 

[Ziggiy]

Whose we? I'm employed and in a relationship.

I can point you to a number of black men who are happily married and in good fields. Some of them on this very site brotha Matt.

Exactly.


The "this is the everyday routine" for black males is laughably absurd. The irony is that Issa Rae herself was raised in a two parent household with a BLACK father who was a Doctor. He even moved their family back to his home country in Senegal with one of the purposes of passing down to his children their heritage. Her boyfriend is a black college graduate. The stereotypes presented in this first episode of the lazy, underperforming black male and the long suffering black women who "lower their standards" to be with them is proven wrong by the creators OWN life story. As of right now, you've got TWO television shows that I can think of that dont go out of their way to portray black men as interracial dating, thuggish, c00nish losers, unable and unwilling to become successful within society. Survivors Remorse and Black-ish.

Atlanta gets a pass because even though the three main male black characters are struggling and in poverty, the show goes to great lengths to add layers to them that both explain their situations, mindsets, and set forth a series of opportunities and situations for them to grow and mature. Atlanta does in 30 minutes what Insecure failed to do in an hour. There are no layers to either of the black men depicted in the pilot episodes. They simply exist to feed the notion that black women are better off without them, and that the larger African American community are better off without them. They are parasites who leech off the good will, love, and support of black women. Again I ask, there is not ONE black man in this meta world created by Issa Rae that isn't out to pump and dump? That manges to gain steady employment? That can even make it through a goddamn job interview without looking like a fool.


I was actually thinking about writing a review and putting all of my thoughts regarding these offensive and limiting portrayals of black men in television, and how it all culminates with this show and how I feel it's the final straw for the "fukk Black men" coalition. But I'm not even sure if it's worth my time or words....

 

[@OffHalsted]

What?

compare & contrast