Israel is the Mother Teresa of nations

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Pro-Palestine logic.

 

[TLOL is back]

Eat a dikk on that one.

Secondly unlike you I actually care about the long term safety and longevity of the Jewish State, whereas you seek to fight and win some moral crusade against Arabs and Iranians as you are a deluded Neo-Con. The more Israel breaks the international law and these right wing hawks pursue their racist and violent ideology the more they antagonize themselves and open themselves up to violence.

When a settlement, which is totally illegal is built on top of homes of Palestinians, who have been living there for generations, regardless of whether you agree with their cause or not, those Palestinians who lost their homes will have found justification to join an armed cause. End of story.

None of your insane rant actually proves the settlements are illegal.

Only that people think it is. Show me the actual law, and let's see if Israel is actually breaking it.

Hint: Israel is not, because its not forcing its population there.

 

[Broke Wave]

None of your insane rant actually proves the settlements are illegal.

Only that people think it is. Show me the actual law, and let's see if Israel is actually breaking it.

Hint: Israel is not, because its not forcing its population there.

this sociopath ignored the breadth of what I said and my quote DIRECTLY from wikipedia with sources

heres the last one, from the Anti-Semetic hate group, the International Court of Justice, also known as the SS

http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/131/1677.pdf

If you're not going to respond to what I said, don't quote me.

 

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this sociopath ignored the breadth of what I said and my quote DIRECTLY from wikipedia with sources

heres the last one, from the Anti-Semetic hate group, the International Court of Justice, also known as the SS

http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/131/1677.pdf

If you're not going to respond to what I said, don't quote me.

You're straying from the subject with your rants. We're talking about the legality of settlements.

I'm asking you for the article of international law which you believe Israel is breaking.

You respond with links to the UN, and other organizations stating their opinion. Do you even think for yourself? What is the LAW?

Critical thinking is an important skill, guys.

 

[Broke Wave]

You're straying from the subject with your rants. We're talking about the legality of settlements.

I'm asking you for the article of international law which you believe Israel is breaking.

You respond with links to the UN, and other organizations stating their opinion. Do you even think for yourself? What is the LAW?

Critical thinking is an important skill, guys.

Isn't the opinion of the international court of justice paramount to you?

This is so absurd. This is like me saying that Obamacare is unconstitutional, and you disagreeing, then it goes to the Supreme Court and they rule that it is unconstitutional, and then you saying that well, we can still do Obamacare, thats just their opinion.

LAWS ARE UPHELD BY THE OPINIONS OF COURTS

 

[OsO]

You're straying from the subject with your rants. We're talking about the legality of settlements.

I'm asking you for the article of international law which you believe Israel is breaking.

You respond with links to the UN, and other organizations stating their opinion. Do you even think for yourself? What is the LAW?

Critical thinking is an important skill, guys.

your performance here is shameful... if you dont know that invading another peoples homeland is unlawful, or trying to remove people from their homeland is unlawful, then you shouldnt even be in this conversation.

no one is saying that palenstine is completely without fault, but your lack of accountability when it comes to israel is just ignorant.

have some integrity... shalom.

 

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your performance here is shameful... if you dont know that invading another peoples homeland is unlawful, or trying to remove people from their homeland is unlawful, then you shouldnt even be in this conversation.

no one is saying that palenstine is completely without fault, but your lack of accountability when it comes to israel is just ignorant.

have some integrity... shalom.

Your entire argument is based on a Strawman.

Try again.

I am discussing what the law actually states. Read below. If you do not respond well to facts then you shouldn't be part of any conversation.

Isn't the opinion of the international court of justice paramount to you?

This is so absurd. This is like me saying that Obamacare is unconstitutional, and you disagreeing, then it goes to the Supreme Court and they rule that it is unconstitutional, and then you saying that well, we can still do Obamacare, thats just their opinion.

LAWS ARE UPHELD BY THE OPINIONS OF COURTS

That analogy is not even remotely accurate. There is no ambiguity in the article of international law in question. The exact quote is the following:

'The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

Israel has not done this. Israel's citizens have moved there voluntarily. This is a fact.

You cannot hide from this fact. The UN's kangaroo court cannot hide from this fact either. You can cite them if you please, but the fact is that Israel did not break the law in question -- even if they claim otherwise.

Again.. These are facts.

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

Isreal needs to follow the laws of God just like everyone else really needs to. Lol Mother Teresa.

 

[OsO]

Khazars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

lets be reality... these modern day jews not even the real jews.

their whole shyt is fraudulent so they need to fall back and stay in their lane instead of coming from this fake moral high ground.

let the palestinian's live...

 

[Broke Wave]

That analogy is not even remotely accurate. There is no ambiguity in the article of international law in question. The exact quote is the following:

'The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

Israel has not done this. Israel's citizens have moved there voluntarily. This is a fact.

You cannot hide from this fact. The UN's kangaroo court cannot hide from this fact either. You can cite them if you please, but the fact is that Israel did not break the law in question -- even if they claim otherwise.

Again.. These are facts.

What a stupid fakkit. The INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE RULED ON THIS ALREADY. If you believe that Israel has a compelling case on this matter please explain it to the United States State Department, the ICJ, the UN, and every other Foreign Affairs department in the entire world.

Israel IS TRANSFERRING citizens there by granting private permits to build on PALESTINIAN land. How complex is this concept? Just because Israel isn't forcing its citizens to live in the settlements doesn't mean they aren't facilitating the transfer of their citizens through incentives and permits.

Why don't you read the ICJ RULING before quoting me.

 

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What a stupid fakkit. The INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE RULED ON THIS ALREADY. If you believe that Israel has a compelling case on this matter please explain it to the United States State Department, the ICJ, the UN, and every other Foreign Affairs department in the entire world.

I don't really have to explain the English language to the ICJ, the US, or anyone else. I have to explain it to you. It is you who I am conversing with.

Israel IS TRANSFERRING citizens there by granting private permits to build on PALESTINIAN land. How complex is this concept? Just because Israel isn't forcing its citizens to live in the settlements doesn't mean they aren't facilitating the transfer of their citizens through incentives and permits.

This indicates that you don't know the meaning of the word transfer. If I grant you a permit to live somewhere, I am transferring you there?

Why don't you read the ICJ RULING before quoting me.

Already have, probably long before you even heard of the ruling. I actually routinely read reports in full, unlike the people who cite them.

 

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I don't really have to explain the English language to the ICJ, the US, or anyone else. I have to explain it to you. It is you who I am conversing with.



This indicates that you don't know the meaning of the word transfer. If I grant you a permit to live somewhere, I am transferring you there?



Already have, probably long before you even heard of the ruling. I actually routinely read reports in full, unlike the people who cite them.

I'm not gonna have a legal discussion here with you and I'm not going to respond to your sophistry but I have an idea.

Let us both present the facts on both sides, and we'll both take representatives to every state department in the world and the UN so that they can objectively decide how this should be interpreted.

After that, if you're still not satisfied, lets go to the International Court of Justice, and they will decide on the correct reading, because they have decades of experience in the interpretation of the Geneva Convention.

Wouldn't that be satisfactory to you?
































Wait that's already happend

 

[zerozero]

The difference, my simple friend, is that Hamas is the ruling party in Gaza . This is not random cross-border "action", this is the fukking government, son.

false. there is no state in gaza.

 

[TLOL is back]

Khazars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

lets be reality... these modern day jews not even the real jews.

their whole shyt is fraudulent so they need to fall back and stay in their lane instead of coming from this fake moral high ground.

let the palestinian's live...

That argument only matters to racists, but I'll educate you anyway.

High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews.

High-resolution Y chromosome haplotype analysis was performed in 143 paternally unrelated Israeli and Palestinian Moslem Arabs (I&P Arabs) by screening for 11 binary polymorphisms and six microsatellite loci. Two frequent haplotypes were found among the 83 detected: the modal haplotype of the I&P Arabs (approximately 14%) was spread throughout the region, while its one-step microsatellite neighbor, the modal haplotype of the Galilee sample (approximately 8%), was mainly restricted to the north. Geographic substructuring within the Arabs was observed in the highlands of Samaria and Judea. Y chromosome variation in the I&P Arabs was compared to that of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews, and to that of North Welsh individuals. At the haplogroup level, defined by the binary polymorphisms only, the Y chromosome distribution in Arabs and Jews was similar but not identical. At the haplotype level, determined by both binary and microsatellite markers, a more detailed pattern was observed. Single-step microsatellite networks of Arab and Jewish haplotypes revealed a common pool for a large portion of Y chromosomes, suggesting a relatively recent common ancestry. The two modal haplotypes in the I&P Arabs were closely related to the most frequent haplotype of Jews (the Cohen modal haplotype). However, the I&P Arab clade that includes the two Arab modal haplotypes (and makes up 32% of Arab chromosomes) is found at only very low frequency among Jews, reflecting divergence and/or admixture from other populations.

High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli... [Hum Genet. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI

Haplotypes constructed from Y-chromosome markers were used to trace the paternal origins of the Jewish Diaspora. A set of 18 biallelic polymorphisms was genotyped in 1,371 males from 29 populations, including 7 Jewish (Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and Ethiopian) and 16 non-Jewish groups from similar geographic locations. The Jewish populations were characterized by a diverse set of 13 haplotypes that were also present in non-Jewish populations from Africa, Asia, and Europe. A series of analyses was performed to address whether modern Jewish Y-chromosome diversity derives mainly from a common Middle Eastern source population or from admixture with neighboring non-Jewish populations during and after the Diaspora. Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level. Admixture estimates suggested low levels of European Y-chromosome gene flow into Ashkenazi and Roman Jewish communities. A multidimensional scaling plot placed six of the seven Jewish populations in a relatively tight cluster that was interspersed with Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations, including Palestinians and Syrians. Pairwise differentiation tests further indicated that these Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations were not statistically different. The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora.

Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewis... [Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI

About 80 Sephardim, 80 Ashkenazim and 100 Czechoslovaks were examined for the Y-specific RFLPs revealed by the probes p12f2 and p49a,f on TaqI DNA digests. The aim of the study was to investigate the origin of the Ashkenazi gene pool through the analysis of markers which, having an exclusively holoandric transmission, are useful to estimate paternal gene flow. The comparison of the two groups of Jews with each other and with Czechoslovaks (which have been taken as a representative source of foreign Y-chromosomes for Ashkenazim) shows a great similarity between Sephardim and Ashkenazim who are very different from Czechoslovaks. On the other hand both groups of Jews appear to be closely related to Lebanese. A preliminary evaluation suggests that the contribution of foreign males to the Ashkenazi gene pool has been very low (1% or less per generation).

The common, Near-Eastern origin of Ashkenazi a... [Ann Hum Genet. 1993] - PubMed - NCBI

Both the extent and location of the maternal ancestral deme from which the Ashkenazi Jewry arose remain obscure. Here, using complete sequences of the maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), we show that close to one-half of Ashkenazi Jews, estimated at 8,000,000 people, can be traced back to only 4 women carrying distinct mtDNAs that are virtually absent in other populations, with the important exception of low frequencies among non-Ashkenazi Jews. We conclude that four founding mtDNAs, likely of Near Eastern ancestry, underwent major expansion(s) in Europe within the past millennium.

AJHG - The Matrilineal Ancestry of Ashkenazi Jewry: Portrait of a Recent Founder Event

let the palestinian's live...

They can live as long as they would like to... As long as Hamas isn't using them as human shields.

 

[TLOL is back]

I'm not gonna have a legal discussion here with you and I'm not going to respond to your sophistry but I have an idea.

Let us both present the facts on both sides, and we'll both take representatives to every state department in the world and the UN so that they can objectively decide how this should be interpreted.

After that, if you're still not satisfied, lets go to the International Court of Justice, and they will decide on the correct reading, because they have decades of experience in the interpretation of the Geneva Convention.

Wouldn't that be satisfactory to you?
































Wait that's already happend

We were having a normal discussion but you went back to trolling.. Look, your only argument is "people agree with me so I must be right!"

Unfortunately, I already stated facts, proving you are wrong.

And you know it.

Fact: Israel did not transfer it's population to the settlements. Fact: Giving someone a permit to live somewhere is not the same as transferring them. Fact: The law only applies to countries that transfer their citizens.

You can't run away from these facts.