It's been bugging for sure. But changing IP address to different countries at different times seems to help.Has the coli been down all day?
It's been bugging for sure. But changing IP address to different countries at different times seems to help.Has the coli been down all day?
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I'm not a holocaust denier either but I understand what you are saying. I actually want to learn more about the Jewish resistance in Europe during the holocaust. I know they were fighting back with small underground militias but does anyone know if they were going as hard on the Nazis as they were on the Palestinian Arabs and British officers in the 30s and 40s with literal acts of terrorism?im not a holocaust denier
but
knowing what we know today and how the jews/israel will blatantly lie, control media, propagranda, play the victim card at every turn, etc.
It does make me wonder how much of the holocaust was... how do I say this in a non offensive way... over exaggerated ?
this entire conflict was escalated due to a false story of beheaded babies and a concert massacre that ended up being proven that the IDF killed their own people
I'm not a holocaust denier either but I understand what you are saying. I actually want to learn more about the Jewish resistance in Europe during the holocaust.
Thank you for the links. I do know about the Warsaw ghetto uprising as well as the French resistance. Without a doubt very heroic. I just don't remember ever reading about terrorism against German civilian targets. Not that that should be warranted or commended in any way. I just don't understand if terrorism was not warranted as a counter to being exterminated. How and why could they use terrorism as a tactic to acquire territory in a land they are immigrating to from Europe? It seems like if they would use terrorism in that case they would use terrorism in Germany as well.Warsaw Ghetto Uprising - Wikipedia
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Jewish partisans - Wikipedia
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Jewish Military Union - Wikipedia
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Jewish resistance in German-occupied Europe - Wikipedia
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Damn, I'll answer my own question since it just became obvious to me that when the objective is to scare people away to take their land, terrorism would be an effective method and the resistance against the Nazis would see no benefit from killing civilians. I still think it's a fukked up history that not many people know about. The jews immigrating from Europe to another land in order to escape persecution. And while their people are being exterminated, they are simultaneously trying to expel the people in the land they are fleeing to with extreme brutality and violence. But we don't hear much about that part of the story.I just don't understand if terrorism was not warranted as a counter to being exterminated. How and why could they use terrorism as a tactic to acquire territory in a land they are immigrating to from Europe? It seems like if they would use terrorism in that case they would use terrorism in Germany as well.
1. The Jews did commit acts of terrorism against German forces and sabotage. 20-30% of the French Resistance were Jews. This man Herbert Baum - Wikipedia firebombed a museum and was captured and tortured to death. This man formed a partisan unit, killed collaborators and destroyed German infrastructure and ambushed troopsThank you for the links. I do know about the Warsaw ghetto uprising as well as the French resistance. Without a doubt very heroic. I just don't remember ever reading about terrorism against German civilian targets. Not that that should be warranted or commended in any way. I just don't understand if terrorism was not warranted as a counter to being exterminated. How and why could they use terrorism as a tactic to acquire territory in a land they are immigrating to from Europe? It seems like if they would use terrorism in that case they would use terrorism in Germany as well.
They killed 43 people with a bomb in a marketplace in Haifa in 1938 before the holocaust
They killed 91 people in the King David Hotel bombing in Jerusalem in 1946 after the holocaust.
Those are just 2 examples of many terrorist acts pre and post holocaust carried out in Palestine. The 2 Jewish militias linked in the previous post are credited with inventing modern day terrorism and were proud to be labeled as terrorists. Are there any examples of jewish militias committing acts of "terrorism" as we know it today (bombing areas where civilians gather) in Germany? Again, I'm not saying that civilians should have been targeted, I'm genuinely curious why these extreme tactics were used in Palestine before, during and after WW2 but not in any of the European countries involved in WW2 (if that is the case).
But their brutal behavior was happening years before the gas chambers. So that can't be the justification for all their terrorist attacks in Palestine. I know they claim they gave advance notice on the hotel bombing, which I personally don't believe but let's play the devil's advocate and say they did and 91 people still died. They definitely did not give advance notice for all the other countless terrorist attacks and bombings in 30s. And they weren't trying to destroy documents in all those terror attacks. Their goal was to drive the Arabs out of their land.4. Many Israeli Jews justify their brutal behavior by saying that Jews during WW2 didn’t resist and meekly went to the gas chambers. That “never again” and there is a machismo culture in Israel about trying to be tough a not weak like western jews.
The Palestinians and Jews were going at each other equally hard in Palestine. You trying to frame it as Jews just showing up in Europe one day and killing innocent people is incorrect and ahistorical.But their brutal behavior was happening years before the gas chambers. So that can't be the justification for all their terrorist attacks in Palestine. I know they claim they gave advance notice on the hotel bombing, which I personally don't believe but let's play the devil's advocate and say they did and 91 people still died. They definitely did not give advance notice for all the other countless terrorist attacks and bombings in 30s. And they weren't trying to destroy documents in all those terror attacks. Their goal was to drive the Arabs out of their land.
no, I know there was an Arab revolt due to the influx of jews into Palestine. I'm specifically talking about the tactic of terrorism as we know it today. Targeting areas where civilians gather with bombs (trains, busses, markets, cinemas, etc.). Since Hamas is labeled as the terrorists in this conflict and therefor are painted as the villains it's interesting that the roots of terrorism in that part of the world are never credited to the jews. The European Jewish militias in Palestine referred to themselves as terrorists. In my opinion they are still terrorists till this day. I consider Israel a terrorist state.The Palestinians and Jews were going at each other equally hard in Palestine. You trying to frame it as Jews just showing up in Europe one day and killing innocent people is incorrect and ahistorical.
I think Palestinian terrorism was working as to why they had the US and Israel at the negotiating table multiple times. They missed their chance because they weren’t politically organized and had no clear vision other than the impossible task of Israel not existing. Consequently it was when Palestine was viewed as a more left adjacent organization.no, I know there was an Arab revolt due to the influx of jews into Palestine. I'm specifically talking about the tactic of terrorism as we know it today. Targeting areas where civilians gather with bombs (trains, busses, markets, cinemas, etc.). Since Hamas is labeled as the terrorists in this conflict and therefor are painted as the villains it's interesting that the roots of terrorism in that part of the world are never credited to the jews. The European Jewish militias in Palestine referred to themselves as terrorists. In my opinion they are still terrorists till this day. I consider Israel a terrorist state.
And those that say Hamas are terrorists and nothing will ever be accomplished by using terrorism. Well just look at what came out of a decade of terrorism by the European jews. The land they were committing terrorism on was awarded to them and they got their sovereign nation. So there wasn't much of a penalty or punishment for all that terrorism. Seems to me like it accomplished their goal. Or at the very least the terrorism did not hinder them from accomplishing their goal. And we are not talking about ancient history. It was less than 100 years ago. And they weren't being oppressed by the Arabs or Brits in the way Palestinians are being oppressed by Israel.