Israel–Hamas War: 10/7/2023 - Present

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I didn't say NVA suffer lower casualty, I'm saying you shouldn't omitted the sacrifice of South Vietnamese just to make US more badass, If US didn't get South Vietnamese help their casualties will be higher. Also many of that NVA casualties also the result of overwhelming US air superiority.



One big difference that war with China will have compared to these previous war is China has the means to strike US bases in the regions. China didn't have the means to attack US bases in Japan during Korean War, Vietnam didn't have the means to attack US bases in Thailand and Philippines during Vietnam War, Saddam didn't have the means to attack US bases in Saudi and Kuwait during Iraq war, Taliban didn't have the means to attack US bases in Pakistan and Uzbekistan during Afghan War. China has the largest constellation of spy satellites after US and they have thousands of ballistic missiles at their disposals that could reach as far as Guam. If they spot US stockpiling weapons and supplies in Japan, Korea, or Philippines that could be used against them do you think they won't preemptively strike it? if they spot US ships refueling and rearming in shipyards in Japan, Korea, or Philippines do you think the won't strike it? China has more resources at their disposal than any of previous US adversaries, and looking at the current events in Ukraine and Israel, keeping US busy by destabilizing their allies across the world is a good strategy. Let's say China decided to give weapons to Russia, Iran, North Korea, and every terror groups with axe to grinds against US, does US have the resources to deal with all of them at the same time?
Yeah on paper atleast China is probably the most formidable foe the US will ever have to confront(even the U.S admits this in the Pentagon documents).

That's why they were eager to grease up NATO because they know they can't do it by themselves anymore. But China is also a mystery because as far as

modern warfare, their experience isn't as many or even as recent as the U.S--Its one thing to have all that equipment, do simulations but its another to

actually coordinate them efficiently.

This was the perfect time to make the move on Taiwan--the U.S. was literally trying to convince Qatar/Iran not to join the Israel-Palestinian conflict right now. Its clear they're stretched thin. China would've been able to pull it off just like they did with Hong Kony by anticipation with Covid 19.

Personally there's too much at stake, and too much to lose--I think the U.S/Nato will negotiate some type of treaty with China after seeing which sides the result of some proxy war leans in the Pacific.
 

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Yeah on paper atleast China is probably the most formidable foe the US will ever have to confront(even the U.S admits this in the Pentagon documents).

That's why they were eager to grease up NATO because they know they can't do it by themselves anymore. But China is also a mystery because as far as

modern warfare, their experience isn't as many or even as recent as the U.S--Its one thing to have all that equipment, do simulations but its another to

actually coordinate them efficiently.

This was the perfect time to make the move on Taiwan--the U.S. was literally trying to convince Qatar/Iran not to join the Israel-Palestinian conflict right now. Its clear they're stretched thin. China would've been able to pull it off just like they did with Hong Kony by anticipation with Covid 19.

Personally there's too much at stake, and too much to lose--I think the U.S/Nato will negotiate some type of treaty with China after seeing which sides the result of some proxy war leans in the Pacific.
Launching an invasion of Taiwan would be the largest amphibious assault in world history. Larger than D-day. If China was preparing to invade Taiwan we would know months in advance. Taiwan has the entire route China would take to Taiwan mapped out. Same way we knew Russia was going to invade Ukraine months in advance because it takes time to mass men and material.


Taiwan also only has a few beaches suitable for an invasion force of that size. Even if suddenly the US 7th fleet disappeared tomorrow United States Seventh Fleet - Wikipedia Taiwan still has one of the most modern militaries in the world with mandatory conscription.

Also where is this “the US is stretched thin” coming from? Is the US military involved in a land war somewhere I don’t know about?
 

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Launching an invasion of Taiwan would be the largest amphibious assault in world history. Larger than D-day. If China was preparing to invade Taiwan we would know months in advance. Taiwan has the entire route China would take to Taiwan mapped out. Same way we knew Russia was going to invade Ukraine months in advance because it takes time to mass men and material.


Taiwan also only has a few beaches suitable for an invasion force of that size. Even if suddenly the US 7th fleet disappeared tomorrow United States Seventh Fleet - Wikipedia Taiwan still has one of the most modern militaries in the world with mandatory conscription.

Also where is this “the US is stretched thin” coming from? Is the US military involved in a land war somewhere I don’t know about?
Yeah there seems to have been some hesitation with respect to how aggressive China should be right now, judging from the articles about it recently. And also the fact that the news of "Abt 1000 US Army Instructors" present in Taiwan didn't get anything but some saber ratting from the CCP is also clear they aren't where they think they need to be to undertake the invasion. U.S troop presence on Taiwan is a redline according to what they'd previously declared. So being punked out like that was not a good look.

Reclaiming Taiwan remains a core policy of the Chinese government, and it's also a useful rally around the flag issue for them.

All the articles coming out asking whether the US could sustain several war fronts--Ukraine, Middle East etc. Treasury Secretary had to come out and state the US can handle two wars simultaneously. A third front would complicate things especially politically for the US
 

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Pentagon says there are no limits on how Israel uses US weapons as death toll climbs amid airstrikes in Gaza


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So nothing is off limits huh...???:francis:
 
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