Israel–Hamas War: 10/7/2023 - Present

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USA in Vietnam

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Israel in Lebanon vs Hezbollah

except israel controlled gaza for many years, they know the layout you can't compare this to any other "guerilla warfare"

There is a reason for the evacuation order, any gun shot from any building they will just destroy it with a tank
 

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Israel in Lebanon vs Hezbollah
Hezbollah waiting in the cut to hit isreal on that ground offensive… Hamas and Hezz boxing isreal in on 2 fronts.. Biden telling Netanyahu to fall back and stop yapping about what he gonna do.. Just hit em at a time and place of your choosing but just regroup in the mean time
 

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Hezbollah waiting in the cut to hit isreal on that ground offensive… Hamas and Hezz boxing isreal in on 2 fronts.. Biden telling Netanyahu to fall back and stop yapping about what he gonna do.. Just hit em at a time and place of your choosing but just regroup in the mean time

WTF are you blabbering on about breh.
 

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Hezbollah waiting in the cut to hit isreal on that ground offensive… Hamas and Hezz boxing isreal in on 2 fronts.. Biden telling Netanyahu to fall back and stop yapping about what he gonna do.. Just hit em at a time and place of your choosing but just regroup in the mean time

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That will be the least of their concerns. Hamas is not a challenge for a fully unrestrained Israel. No matter how much you sympathize with them. If Israel decides they want to become genocidal in the total sense of word, they can wipe hamas and Palestinians off the map.

The bigger trap is if they go down this path, Israel will globally cement their place in the minds of millions if not billions of people of them being evil and a terrorist state and their existence as a state will be in danger. The outrage by the populace in the Arab world will be limitless to the point even if these Arabic leaders cynically only pretend to care about the Palestinians for political purposes may find themselves facing threat to their power if they don't do anything. Anytime Israel tries to play a victim card, after a generation of people have seen the evil real time will have no sympathy for Israel. They will reek of the same stench on a global scale as South Africa did before apartheid regime was dismantled.

I know that folks on here will say "but Israel is already evil and all the things you said already the case" but regardless if that is right or not, for now Israel whether it's through effective bullying and pressure and the sympathy they garner from some people due to their history, they do get some support. Also, many people before this never knew or saw the full scope of abuse Israel has enacted on the Palestinians. They are sheep who simply buy the endless pro Israel propaganda we are bombarded with.

But the power of that propaganda will evaporate if everyone watches Israel commit genocide in real time. Especially since people are paying attention to this conflict more than any time in recent history. This is what Hamas wants and Israel may be dumb enough to fall into this trap.

At the end of the day you have a moral obligation and responsibility to show you can sit at the Western table.

The West is far from innocent, but total extinction and genocide are something they haven't taken a part of in centuries. If anything, they prevented it most recently during WWII. You can't tarnish that reputation right now or people will lose faith in the system (more than they already have) meant to prevent it from happening.

When that happens, leaders around the world lose their jobs when the people start voting them out for allowing it to happen as most of these countries at the table follow a democracy system more or less.

Israel performs genocide and they'll be removed from the table because that will additionally mean much of the leadership in countries like America etc. will be voted out by the people who once thought of them as a safe haven for diverse populaces.

Best believe America's current leaders will not want to risk their place for the sake of another country's atrocities come election time when the citizens here come to vote. They may work with Israel to resolve the situation in a suppressed manner, but if Israel goes over the edge and loses their cool - they're on their own. That the implicit agreement going on here between America and every other Western nation with Israel and each other.
 
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At the end of the day you have a moral obligation and responsibility to show you can sit at the Western table.

The West is far from innocent, but total extinction and genocide are something they haven't taken a part of in centuries. If anything, they prevented it most recently during WWII. You can't tarnish that reputation right now or people will lose faith in the system (more than they already have) meant to prevent it from happening.

When that happens, leaders around the world lose their jobs when the people start voting them out for allowing it to happen.

Israel performs genocide and they'll be removed from the table because that will additionally mean much of the leadership in countries like America etc. will be voted out by the people who once thought of them as a safe haven for diverse populaces.

Best believe America's current leaders will not want to give up their place for the sake of another country's atrocities come election time when the citizens here come to vote. They may work with Israel to resolve the situation in a suppressed manner, but if Israel goes over the edge and loses their cool - they're on their own. That the implicit agreement going on here.

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The West's unconditional support for Israel most likely has a stress limit chief, as they do with each other.

Especially seeing as Israelis ain't really pass the skin test like that :mjpls:

Jews have pull in the west breh.

lary ellison, larry page, sergey brin, steve balmer, michael bloomberg, michael dell, mark zuckerberg
 

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Jews have pull in the west breh.

lary ellison, larry page, sergey brin, steve balmer, michael bloomberg, michael dell, mark zuckerberg

A lot of people have pull in the West breh.

Elon got his own internet, Twitter, etc.
Tiktok is Chinese-owned.
Telegram gaining more and more traction.
Numerous Asian companies who are involved with the science and tech.
etc.

Businesses on top of businesses and industries on top of industries.

If the pull is that real, those would've been stopped by now as these threaten the monolithic structures that were more dominant at one point in favor of more modular structures that now starting to compose the whole. Just like the software and hardware principles and patterns these things are built on. The world got easy internet access now and more cultures worldwide are getting bigger pieces of the pie.
 
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Are we looking at the same clips? You said Biden addressed Israel as the aggressor, where? He called him by his nickname BiBi, then went on to talk about their relationship. All he said was he told him to follow the rules of war. Same thing Russia said.

John Kirby dodged the question about Israel currently violating the rules of war. Yea , he threw Palestine civilians a bone, but it’s meaningless.


This is all lip service. Lloyd Austin has been getting briefed directly by Israeli military leaders. He’s about to sit in the war room inside Israel with other world leaders and watch the invasion. Probably give tips. They know what’s going on and they don’t care.

Anthony Blinken been out there this whole time. What has he done? Nothing. What has he accomplished? Nothing. They are all setting the stage for a massive war. It’s why he’s traveling from country to country. Telling everyone to stay out of it.





Do not give these people any grace. They are all guilty.
I've had to come to this unfortunate conclusion after seeing that Diplomatic email leak, which I think was done intentionally, to signal to the rest that this is

happening regardless. Then seeing that middling communique from the "Gulf Country Alliance" or something asking the "International Community" to do all

it can to bring peace + Blinken's trip---its been a wrap.

One of the thoughts is that the Ukraine war not bearing the "expected returns" has planted a kind of panic within the West. You can see it when Blinken

made that speech especially declaring the post-Cold War Order dead. This means Israel knows it has a small window to essentially place the world infront

of a "fait accompli" on this issue.

I mean they've begun testing out "Gaza Strip", "Gaza War" reducing the whole Palestinian issue to Gaza.(This after using Palestinian "Authority" instead of

state in the 90s)
 
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