Israel–Hamas War: 10/7/2023 - Present

[that guy]

Israeli intelligence services is supposed to be top tier , how did they let this massacre catch them off guard like this

That’s why this isn’t adding up. They’re either exaggerating the scale and death toll of the attack or they allowed it to happen but it can’t be both.

 

[chineebai]

it seems like the same asymmetric killing of Palestinians.

 

[jdubnyce]

Israeli intelligence services is supposed to be top tier , how did they let this massacre catch them off guard like this

What if....this is going according to their plan?

 

[jdubnyce]

Canada was so quick to take in Ukrainians . I hope they do the same for Palestinians

But you see how they're treating the African refugees in Toronto

 

[thatrapsfan]

Life is much better in West Bank than Gaza. It's not perfect but it's much safer, wages are higher, alot of tourists go to Bethlehem, Jericho, Ramallah. The wall is ridiculous and the checkpoints suck. But it's better as a Palestinian to live in Westbank than Gaza or even east Jerusalem where you treated like a dog

This is greatly downplaying what West Bank reality actually is like there:

-hundreds of check points across region manned by military which Palestinians must cross to even travel with West Bank.
-Very limited amount can visit Jerusalem and only through permits.
-Also fully cut off from Gaza
-fully cut off from Israeli settlements which take up 10 percent of overall territory and growin
-don’t have access to agricultural land in proximity to settlements
- Thousands jailed on annual basis, including good number with no charges
- Actually more deaths in West Bank this calendar year than Gaza, prior to this latest development. Nearly 200 killed in West Bank alone and without there being full military operation

Israelis kill four Palestinians in occupied West Bank confrontations

Two Palestinians killed in Huwara, south of Nablus, hours after two others were killed near Shufa.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[MikelArteta]

But you see how they're treating the African refugees in Toronto

Canadian soldiers asking for donations to help with housing, food costs, memo says

Recent changes to the military’s housing allowance mean that more junior members will get help, but more senior members say they’re struggling to find housing

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Pacni99a12]

Sometimes in our own bubble we forget how wicked the world is. I remember being in Rwanda and visiting the genocide museum and seeing skills and clothing and reading stories and it makes you sick.

Even reading stories of what Hamas militants did to old Jews or kids shakes head and even what Israel is doing dropping massive bombs killing innocent kids sickening. How do these people just commit these crimes and go to bed like it's nothing.

What's your solution? Not shytting on you just curious to hear your opinion. How do you target a group that hides amongst civilians and not inflict casualties on the innocent. And on the other hand how do you fight an enemy that has you outmatched as far as man power, technology,money, without going to the extreme and fighting dirty? How do you go to war fairly?

 

[Steelo14]

It’s an inaccurate reduction to say we sold each other into slavery. Do you think Caucasians armed to the teeth gave coastal Africans a choice on providing slaves? It was provide slaves or be the slaves. Europeans gave Africans an ultimatum.

But that’s besides the point, the point is that because we are not one big family and we are so ethnically diverse that it’s harder for us to unite in the same manner as white people because they are more monolithic culturally

White people unite under white supremacy out of the need to survive. If you put every race on the planet in their on continent and didn’t allow them to leave, white people would go extinct first from infighting.

We do get some blame for those kingdoms documented to have provided prisoners of war to them, as opposed to killing them like they used to. But its nothing compared to the large scale industrialization &expansion of slave trade undertaken by the Portuguese and every other European power. The development of chatter slavery, trading slave ships on the stock market etc was NOT by Africans.

This was all European esp the Portuguese who basically were the Uber drivers of Slave trade having cornered the market with their explorations.

Lost in alot of these narratives is that there are many kingdoms who devoted resources to raiding ships and rescuing slaves destined for other shores. On most of these slave posts there are canons facing towards the interior, set up by Europeans to protect themselves against ship-raiding Tribes.

We didn't just sit on our hands and accept that fate: These were our grandparents, uncles, siblings, parents lost and many tribes were eradicated trying to rescue slave ships.

Ironically white people are going to go extinct by their own doing---even with all the wealth they plundered they still used it to create more lethal weapons. All the empires they set up used the wealth to promote and fight in endless wars. I mean in Ukraine its "white on white" crime for a people whining about their dwindling numbers.

 

[Steelo14]

What's your solution? Not shytting on you just curious to hear your opinion. How do you target a group that hides amongst civilians and not inflict casualties on the innocent. And on the other hand how do you fight an enemy that has you outmatched as far as man power, technology,money, without going to the extreme and fighting dirty? How do you go to war fairly?

Apply the same standards you do when Russians bombard schools, churches, hospitals in Ukraine. You can't have selective outrage when condeming. Civilians should never be targets, its part of the Geneva convention for a reason.

 

[voltronblack]

Sometimes in our own bubble we forget how wicked the world is. I remember being in Rwanda and visiting the genocide museum and seeing skills and clothing and reading stories and it makes you sick.

Even reading stories of what Hamas militants did to old Jews or kids shakes head and even what Israel is doing dropping massive bombs killing innocent kids sickening. How do these people just commit these crimes and go to bed like it's nothing.

They have the willpower of being that what causes Colonel Kurtz to lose his mind trying to understand that.

 

[DaKidFromNoWhere]

The way this situation is being viewed and how folks are being treated over an opinion is why I look at politics funny.

 

[Cuban Pete]

Anglo-Saxons are legendarily ruthless in getting everyone to tow the line--colonized the Irish, jacked Greek culture and civilization while excluding them from "Whiteness"
And it has worked for them, and even more spectacularly well since 1945. They've basically shaped the world with that as their core doctrine and this is how they've had British Empire----> US Empire-----> ?

Black people tend to be a bit more welcoming of Foreigners than our own kind. Tribalism is our Achilles heel and its why slavery, colonization, Apartheid was so "easy" to execute. We have tribes that hate each other so much, they'd rather everybody suffer under European rule than see another tribe reign over them.

The secret ingredient you're forgetting to Anglo Saxons is the Viking ancestry. Not in the sense that the Vikings were the great legendary warriors with horn helmets theyre depicted as, more cause the Vikings would trade and take from different cultures bits and pieces while still being incredibly racist and tribal towards those same cultures. The Visigoths in Spain jacked the Roman culture and Religion, Anglo Saxons jacked Celtic legends while actively killing them (King Arthur was Welsh not English for example), Holy Roman Empire taking the title of Rome despite being fully in Germany , trading with Muslims and Mediterraneans while still raiding them for slaves. The Germanic peoples have always been on that timing. They like raiding and pillaging

 

[MikelArteta]

What's your solution? Not shytting on you just curious to hear your opinion. How do you target a group that hides amongst civilians and not inflict casualties on the innocent. And on the other hand how do you fight an enemy that has you outmatched as far as man power, technology,money, without going to the extreme and fighting dirty? How do you go to war fairly?

good question I have no answer I'm not a coli war general. I just want peace and people treated equally.

At the end of the day there are millions of jews and millions of palestinians and both are going nowhere. Even if israel kills every hamas member there are still 3 million palestinians in the west bank, 2 million in gaza and 2 million in israel.

 

[that guy]

This is greatly downplaying what West Bank reality actually is like there:

-hundreds of check points across region manned by military which Palestinians must cross to even travel with West Bank.
-Very limited amount can visit Jerusalem and only through permits.
-Also fully cut off from Gaza
-fully cut off from Israeli settlements which take up 10 percent of overall territory and growin
-don’t have access to agricultural land in proximity to settlements
- Thousands jailed on annual basis, including good number with no charges
- Actually more deaths in West Bank this calendar year than Gaza, prior to this latest development. Nearly 200 killed in West Bank alone and without there being full military operation

Israelis kill four Palestinians in occupied West Bank confrontations

Two Palestinians killed in Huwara, south of Nablus, hours after two others were killed near Shufa.

www.aljazeera.com

Wow

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

good question I have no answer I'm not a coli war general. I just want peace and people treated equally.

At the end of the day there are millions of jews and millions of palestinians and both are going nowhere. Even if israel kills every hamas member there are still 3 million palestinians in the west bank, 2 million in gaza and 2 million in israel.

The most just solution would put them both in the same country


Let them learn to live together and avoid killing each other’s children