Islam and Blacks

[tstone]

1. European colonization of West Africa and insert anywhere else, considering they conquered most of the globe.

2. Yes

3. So the Arabs never controlled their affairs but somehow managed to embark on an Arab conquest that started from the inception of Islam?

1. I don't think you understand my question, Most of west Africa official language is either English or French, Most majority Christian countries speak a European language. You can find that the majority of muslim countries don't speak Arabic as a language. So where does the arab conquest come from

3. The Arabs caliphate in Baghdad were defeated in 1258 by the Mongols. What happened after that, the Mongols converted to islam.

The Arab caliphate in Cairo were defeated in 1517 by the Turks. What happened after that the Turks converted to islam.

So I asked the question where is the Arab spreading Islam only through conquest come from?

 

[3rdWorld]

Its easy for African Americans to become muslims..its a romanticized millitant type of religion, but truth is..unless you have the experience Africans have had with Islam African Americans who actually have a choice should know better. Islam is the Arabs religion, dont get it twisted..Arabs know it, they know Muhammed was an Arab and they treat Blacks like shyt. African Americans dont have the life experience dealing with Arabs to even begin to grasp the implications of it all..

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Been black Muslims since the beginning of Islam

What do you mean. Islam started in Africa around 614 AD by a Arab non black

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Africa

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

you never heard of the Islamic Crusades? the Ummayad Dynasty? the conquered from Palestine to the South of France in 85 years. If they had one the Battle of Tusk in southern France we would all be speaking Arabic right now. If you go by the route they took in modern day i.e. Palestine, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco you'll see why North Africa became part of the Arab states.

You knowledge of history is flawed

He has no clue what he's talking about. He thinks those Africans willingly converted to Islam. The ones that didn't convert was sent into slavery. The ones that did convert had the lowest social status. They was nikka Arabs You can't separate one from the other.

 

[WaveGang]

Its easy for African Americans to become muslims..its a romanticized millitant type of religion, but truth is..unless you have the experience Africans have had with Islam African Americans who actually have a choice should know better. Islam is the Arabs religion, dont get it twisted..Arabs know it, they know Muhammed was an Arab and they treat Blacks like shyt. African Americans dont have the life experience dealing with Arabs to even begin to grasp the implications of it all..

Yep
The equivalent to the N word in Arabic is Abd... Abd means slave

Hence the team abduallah (slave to allah/ allah's slave)

for Arab religion brehs

 

[Kobe24]

Its easy for African Americans to become muslims..its a romanticized millitant type of religion, but truth is..unless you have the experience Africans have had with Islam African Americans who actually have a choice should know better. Islam is the Arabs religion, dont get it twisted..Arabs know it, they know Muhammed was an Arab and they treat Blacks like shyt. African Americans dont have the life experience dealing with Arabs to even begin to grasp the implications of it all..

Preach brother, its a shame what these Arabs do to blacks in the Americas. Its almost as if they try to take advantage of somebody's ignorance. Arab's do not benefit a single group in the Americas,and they most certainly don't benefit Blacks. The Arabs basically invented slavery in layman terms, and there are sections of the quaran that are completely anti-black. Its unfortunate that their are people that will do whatever to find acceptance even if it is at the expense of their pride and dignity. You remove Arabs slavery practices you basically remove 90% of slavery in all times. Guys, if you don't like cacs how can you embrace Arabs with open arms? Please enlighten me

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Preach brother, its a shame what these Arabs do to blacks in the Americas. Its almost as if they try to take advantage of somebody's ignorance. Arab's do not benefit a single group in the Americas,and they most certainly don't benefit Blacks. The Arabs basically invented slavery in layman terms, and there are sections of the quaran that are completely anti-black. Its unfortunate that their are people that will do whatever to find acceptance even if it is at the expense of their pride and dignity. You remove Arabs slavery practices you basically remove 90% of slavery in all times. Guys, if you don't like cacs how can you embrace Arabs with open arms? Please enlighten me

They know Muslims is the most dominate religion in Africa and know we came from Africa so they think thats the wave. They didn't do their due diligence, just jumped in head first.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Islam is repackaged African spirituality.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Another person confusing a culture with a religion. Carry on

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves."

But you guys keep looking on your angelfire pages digging for garbage.

 

[godkiller]

I was watching Malcom X and Ive heard numerous amounts of articles that mention that Islam is the true religion for Africans. What I was really wondering is why certain people have that mentality, I even saw Mike Tyson say that Muhammad was black or what not. I don't mean to be disrespectful but I am genuinely curious as to why some think that Islam is beneficial to the black man as a whole. As far as I know the Arabs started enslaving Black people since shyt was brown, why some blacks seem to be on their side as well

Arabs are on the exact same tip than Europeans so why do some blacks rigorously defend the pioneers of racism/slavery. I just can't grasp the concept and I was hoping somebody could give me an easy explanation as to why Arabs are any better than Europeans when it comes to racism. IMO the Arabs are possibly even worse so why would one convert to a religion that clearly was made for the Arab man and not the Black man.

Islam's book, the Korean, is written in Arabic which is historically and ethnically linked to the Middle East, not Africa. This implies Arabs are the originators of Islam, and that blacks are not. Africans' original religions is more like animism like what the Egyptians practiced or else something related to voodoo, which involves spirits and is a type of shamanism.

 

[godkiller]

Islam didnt allow forceful conversions as "theres no compulsion in religion". The reason why Islam is so widespread in Africa is a because of the economic/trade benefits of embracing a dominant religion in the region. Its the same reason why Ethiopia embraced Christianity 1500 years ago as the region was dominated by christian kingdoms at the time and it ensured favourable trading conditions not to mention powerfull military alliances with Christian empires such as the Byzantines. The embracement of a foreign Religion mostly occured as a result of trade and military alliances. Muslim leaders further incentivised islamic conversion by the Jizya Tax on non muslims. In fact islamic empires became rich by taxing the non muslims to the point where leaders discouraged religious conversions.

Arabs forcefully covert populations to Islam today, let alone 1000 years ago when they were even more barbaric and ignorant than they are now. So the assertion that "Islam didn't allow forced conversions" is irrelevant. ISIS attacks Middle Eastern minorities and murder the before before converting the women to Islam via rape and slavery.

 

[thaKEAF]

And today, Islam bring no good to the world and to Africa, the last thing blacks need is to be enslaved by religion. Blacks should be more like Chinese and Japanese who are more spiritual than religious. Africans had their own spiritual beliefs before the conquest of Arabs and europeans, this beliefs were an important part of their identites and cultural traits of the african tribes. I think black Africa would have found a way to flourished without islam arab influence, The Chinese civilization were not very friendly to foreign culture, they were very closed minded, but their civilization flourished during the Medieval - kingdoms era and beyond without europeans and arabs influence, why not Africa.

Any book recommendations on this spirituality?

 

[IVS]

What's trippy is that before the alleged coming of Muhammad, there were no Arab conquests. The Kaaba and the hajj pilgrimage predate Muhammad's time, and held significance amongst the tribes before the Muhammad's "prophethood." To the character of Muhammad are attached the recitations that became the Koran, and the removal of idols from the Kaaba. Jerusalem held no special place to the tribes.

One man, who claimed to have met with an angel(said to be Gabrael) and received the recitations to deliver to the people. Much of these recitations are attached to Biblical lore. It contains references to Solomon's Davidic temple and Jesus (including his divine birth) - the two main symbols of Zionism. One of the prominent features of Muhammad's prophethood is the night Journey to Jerusalem, and the ascension. In fact, nabi\nebi is also the same as the "hebrew" word nevi for prophets, as in the second portion of the taNaKh, called the Nevi'im (the prophets), and the city of Yathrib's name was changed to Medina-a contraction of Medinat al Nabi - city of the prophet.

When you think how one rich caravan trader's indoctrination affected an entire nation and the world. And all the trouble attached to the succession of Muhammad, as if he were an elected leader or monarch. Sunni's vs Shia's and internal wars of power.

"there's no god, but god" ... I dont know about any prophets or any books. That's all we need to know. And God has no chosen people, and would never reveal to only one man and not appear before us all to speak and\or reveal truths.

 

[IVS]

Another person confusing a culture with a religion. Carry on

You do realize religion exist for the preservation of cultural rituals and ideals. And they go hand and hand right.