Islam and Blacks

[Leasy]

Since Muhammad is an Arab prophet. Since when did whites own Christianity?

His father was African and his right hand was African don't believe that it was his slave because once the Arabs came they b*stardized everything. The Black Stone came from Ethopian Africans. You know the stones they walk around. The praying stances came from Kemet.

 

[WaveGang]

P 9

Lol most major religions have leaders/Prophets who are of a different race/appearance when compared to their main followers. Buddhism is only popular in East Asia(China, Japan, Taiwan) yet Buddha was a Northern Indian. Most Christians are hispanic and Europeans yet Jesus was a was a brown Semite with wolly hair. Most people subscribe to religions that emerged from different cultures.

Yeah... though colonialism

The spread of religion has been through colonialism, these religions were brought to Africa through colonialism. Christianity/Catholisim was brought to the Americas through colonialism. Islam was brought to Asia (Nepal, Pakistan etc) and Africa through colonialism.

For those that dont know, colonialism is when one group of people colonize another, i.e. take EVERYTHING over, not just the land of the peoples... the minds of the peoples too.

 

[Gimini00]

Many African Islamic civilisation wouldnt have a written language(Arabic) and creating an effective administration would be impossible in these expanding and diverse kingdoms and empires. Knowledge transfer would be impossible. Islam also exposed many African kingsoms to lucrative foreign trade routes and markets and many African cvilisations flourished due to their connections to the caliphate. Without Islam, many of Africas greatest civilisations would never have existed. Islam helped bridged gaps between diverse African cultures, and many African ethnic groups built alliances via islam that soon grew to empires we know today

And today, Islam bring no good to the world and to Africa, the last thing blacks need is to be enslaved by religion. Blacks should be more like Chinese and Japanese who are more spiritual than religious. Africans had their own spiritual beliefs before the conquest of Arabs and europeans, this beliefs were an important part of their identites and cultural traits of the african tribes. I think black Africa would have found a way to flourished without islam arab influence, The Chinese civilization were not very friendly to foreign culture, they were very closed minded, but their civilization flourished during the Medieval - kingdoms era and beyond without europeans and arabs influence, why not Africa.

 

[Gimini00]

So why in the fukk would anyone switch from a white man religion to an arab religion when the arab enslaved 50x more Africans. It doesn't make any logical sense to complain about 4 inches going in your ass, when the Arabs hit you with 15 inches.

Exactly !

 

[Raptor]

Yeah... though colonialism

The spread of religion has been through colonialism, these religions were brought to Africa through colonialism. Christianity/Catholisim was brought to the Americas through colonialism. Islam was brought to Asia (Nepal, Pakistan etc) and Africa through colonialism.

For those that dont know, colonialism is when one group of people colonize another, i.e. take EVERYTHING over, not just the land of the peoples... the minds of the peoples too.

Islam didnt allow forceful conversions as "theres no compulsion in religion". The reason why Islam is so widespread in Africa is a because of the economic/trade benefits of embracing a dominant religion in the region. Its the same reason why Ethiopia embraced Christianity 1500 years ago as the region was dominated by christian kingdoms at the time and it ensured favourable trading conditions not to mention powerfull military alliances with Christian empires such as the Byzantines. The embracement of a foreign Religion mostly occured as a result of trade and military alliances. Muslim leaders further incentivised islamic conversion by the Jizya Tax on non muslims. In fact islamic empires became rich by taxing the non muslims to the point where leaders discouraged religious conversions.

 

[Gimini00]

P 9

Lol most major religions have leaders/Prophets who are of a different race/appearance when compared to their main followers. Buddhism is only popular in East Asia(China, Japan, Taiwan) yet Buddha was a Northern Indian. Most Christians are hispanic and Europeans yet Jesus was a was a brown Semite with wolly hair. Most people subscribe to religions that emerged from different cultures.

Did you see how the Europeans depict Jesus, As a white man with blue eyes, and the Asian represent Buddha as an white chinese man, they were smart enough to change all the scripts to adapt the religions to their cultural identities, the bible was transcripted to europeans language and they probably changed many verses from the original texts. All the saints are depicted as white european, including Jesus and God, besides, many europeans countries created their own version of christianity, Uk with Anglican church, Germany with Lutheran church, etc...They didn't let a foreign religion influence their cultural identities, they adapted the religion to them.

 

[MVike28]

Do you brehs

Why you so pressed what religion Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X follow.

"To you your religion and to me mine"

 

[WaveGang]

Islam didnt allow forceful conversions as "theres no compulsion in religion". The reason why Islam is so widespread in Africa is a because of the economic/trade benefits of embracing a dominant religion in the region. Its the same reason why Ethiopia embraced Christianity 1500 years ago as the region was dominated by christian kingdoms at the time and it ensured favourable trading conditions not to mention powerfull military alliances with Christian empires such as the Byzantines. The embracement of a foreign Religion mostly occured as a result of trade and military alliances. Muslim leaders further incentivised islamic conversion by the Jizya Tax on non muslims. In fact islamic empires became rich by taxing the non muslims to the point where leaders discouraged religious conversions.

you never heard of the Islamic Crusades? the Ummayad Dynasty? the conquered from Palestine to the South of France in 85 years. If they had one the Battle of Tusk in southern France we would all be speaking Arabic right now. If you go by the route they took in modern day i.e. Palestine, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco you'll see why North Africa became part of the Arab states.

You knowledge of history is flawed

 

[tstone]

Yeah... though colonialism

The spread of religion has been through colonialism, these religions were brought to Africa through colonialism. Christianity/Catholisim was brought to the Americas through colonialism. Islam was brought to Asia (Nepal, Pakistan etc) and Africa through colonialism.

For those that dont know, colonialism is when one group of people colonize another, i.e. take EVERYTHING over, not just the land of the peoples... the minds of the peoples too.

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard, the Arabs did not colonize west Africa, which is predominantly black muslims. The symptoms of colonization is language, with your argument all the west african countries that practice islam will speak arabic, Indonesia and Pakistan will also speak Arabic, the largest muslim countries in the world. Islam was spread into these areas by sufi mystics and traders. The largest Christian countries Brazil and the United States speak a European language, the language of there colonizers.

 

[live it to the limit]

I may get attacked for saying this but I think that Islam is more beneficial for men. If you think about it men serve their creator and take care of their families while gaining nobility. Where as women kinda serve their creator, serve their husbands and children and that's pretty much it. I kind of admire the NOI brothers from afar and think that they may be good mates. But them I think of all the things as a woman that I would have to give up to be a part of that

 

[WaveGang]

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard, the Arabs did not colonize west Africa, which is predominantly black muslims. The symptoms of colonization is language, with your argument all the west african countries that practice islam will speak arabic, Indonesia and Pakistan will also speak Arabic, the largest muslim countries in the world. Islam was spread into these areas by sufi mystics and traders. The largest Christian countries Brazil and the United States speak a European language, the language of there colonizers.

I feel like you just jumped to three extremes, who mentioned west Africa or colonization meaning an eradication of language?

West African Kingdoms were put under pressure by the more power Islamic dynasties, much similar to what the Europeans done i.e. indirectly forcing the hand of African Tribes.

You think West Africans heard about Islam and said "fukk our religion we've had for thousands of years, lets jump on this new shyt"

It's funny how people try to justify Islamic imperialism the same way people justify European imperialism.

"b-b-b-b-b-but Africans traded with them, it was all trade"
"it wasnt bad slavery it was the good kind of slavery"
"b-b-b-b-b-but North Africa wasn't inhabited, there was no wars"



some sick shyt!

The greed of man knows no boundaries

 

[Raptor]

you never heard of the Islamic Crusades? the Ummayad Dynasty? the conquered from Palestine to the South of France in 85 years. If they had one the Battle of Tusk in southern France we would all be speaking Arabic right now. If you go by the route they took in modern day i.e. Palestine, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco you'll see why North Africa became part of the Arab states.

You knowledge of history is flawed

I said Africa. Im aware of Islamic crusades.

 

[tstone]

I feel like you just jumped to three extremes, who mentioned west Africa or colonization meaning an eradication of language?

West African Kingdoms were put under pressure by the more power Islamic dynasties, much similar to what the Europeans done i.e. indirectly forcing the hand of African Tribes.

You think West Africans heard about Islam and said "fukk our religion we've had for thousands of years, lets jump on this new shyt"

It's funny how people try to justify Islamic imperialism the same way people justify European imperialism.

"b-b-b-b-b-but Africans traded with them, it was all trade"
"it wasnt bad slavery it was the good kind of slavery"
"b-b-b-b-b-but North Africa wasn't inhabited, there was no wars"



some sick shyt!

The greed of man knows no boundaries

1. Give me an example in history that colonization did not replace a language

2. Cultures changed and adapted new ideas and religion since forever. You think those Africans were practicing the same religion for thousands of years before islam showed up.

3. For much of the history of islam the Arabs never controlled there own affairs after the fall of the early caliphate, they were controlled and COLONIZED by either Turks, Mongols, Persians or Europeans. And the former three became muslim after they defeated the Arabs in War.

 

[WaveGang]

I said Africa. Im aware of Islamic crusades.

OK, say are we saying that Muslims peacefully conquered North Africa?

these Islamic ers I tell ya.


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Ask yourself this. Europeans know that Arabs enslaved blacks for three times longer than they did. With the lengths Europeans go to justify slavery i.e. blacks sold blacks/ slavery was good/ get over. You don't think they wouldn't put that shyt at the forefront to?

European history ignores the Arab oppression of Black Africans because they benefit from Black Africans gravitating towards Islam.

Aslong as the Black Man does not see himself as God, he'll never think of his own will to be as powerful as God's

shyt is that real

 

[WaveGang]

1. Give me an example in history that colonization did not replace a language

2. Cultures changed and adapted new ideas and religion since forever. You think those Africans were practicing the same religion for thousands of years before islam showed up.

3. For much of the history of islam the Arabs never controlled there own affairs after the fall of the early caliphate, they were controlled and COLONIZED by either Turks, Mongols, Persians or Europeans. And the former three became muslim after they defeated the Arabs in War.

1. European colonization of West Africa and insert anywhere else, considering they conquered most of the globe.

2. Yes

3. So the Arabs never controlled their affairs but somehow managed to embark on an Arab conquest that started from the inception of Islam?