Is there a black version of Ghengis Khan or Alxander the Great?

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Much respect to all who said Hannibal Barca.

I’ve only studied ghengis a little but what the mongols did was impressive. He had excellent generals like tsubodi, who is himself not as well known but is comparable to some of the top military minds in history from what ive read.

I’ve studied Alexander but I won’t get into him too much. He was an excellent general of course.

But neither did what Hannibal did. Both Alexander and ghengis were monarchs with absolute say and control of the resources of the State. They could raise armies and call for reinforcements at will. Hannibal was just a general of Carthage, subject to recall at any time, and his own govt basically betrayed him. And there was a difference in their opponents. After the Persians alexander was attacking people who had no idea why or even who he was. Rome was at its fighting peak when Hannibal invaded Italy and both of em knew exactly what they were doing.

Hannibal left new Carthage with 100,000 men and fought his way thru northern Spain. He was only 31. He had about 50,000 when he reached the foot of the alps and only 26,000 left when he crossed into Italy. He was the first general to cross the Pyrenees and then the first to cross the Alps with an organized army.

Then he gave the romans hell for the next 16 years and never lost a major engagement on Italian soil. He was the first and only commander in history to use his entire army to set an ambush, at lake trasimene. He wiped out his third Roman army, en route to the massacre at cannae where he killed between 50 - 70,000 and lost only about 6,000 himself. They still teach that battle in military academies all over the world today. He actually got most of southern Italy to leave their Roman alliance and side with him. It’s also why they say southern Italians are so much darker than the northerners, because that’s where Hannibal’s army spent most of its time.

I could keep going. I’ve probably read most of the seminal works about him. Out of them all I always recommend ‘Hannibal’ by T.A. Dodge. Most of what you’ll read worth reading I’ve found was taken from dodge but he rarely gets the credit.

His book is the best because dodge actually went to Italy
and walked the ground Hannibal campaigned on. He’s not just getting his info from other books. Dodge was himself also a soldier. An officer in the union army who lost a leg at Chancellorsville in the civil war, so basically what you’re getting is a military history. No opinions and embellishments, just a soldiers view of Hannibal’s campaigns.

If you go into it knowing Hannibal is Black, and he was, you’ll be straight. There’s a coin online of Hannibal with the plats in his hair and an elephant on the other side. That was minted to commemorate his victory at lake trasimene.

No bullshyt his old man hamilcar was a beast too. He’s the one that conquered southern Spain and it was his plan Hannibal carried out.

All Black people should study the Punic Wars. They contain every lesson and answer to our problems. And it was the last time we’d meet white folks in war on close to even terms.
:blessed:All facts. Black people need to study military science and self defense period but the punic wars should deff be a bookmark.
 

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King Kaleb

The most important, and best documented, struggle between Aksum and Yemen took place around 520 AD, when the renowned Aksumite king Kaleb invaded Yemen. The monarch, who was later canonised by the Ethiopian Church, did so, ostensibly, to oust a Jewish Himyarite king, Yusuf Asar Yathar. The latter monarch was accused of persecuting his Christian subjects, and of massacring many of them at Najran, a major settlement in the interior of what is now southern Saudi Arabia.

Kaleb subsequently set up a viceroyalty in Yemen, but his viceroy was soon deposed. The country, though independent, remained, however, for some time under strong Aksumite influence. The new Yemeni king, Abraha, who, according to some accounts, was actually a member of Kaleb’s family, seems to have accepted Aksumite suzerainty. He subsequently erected an inscription, in 543, recording the arrival of several embassies. The first, and presumably the most important, on the list came, significantly enough, from Aksum.


Side note: the reason I’m posting Ethiopian history is because I’m trying to show examples of Africans conquering non-african lands and Hannibal has already been mentioned.
 
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By the time Alexander the Great was sweeping the civilized world with conquest after conquest from Chaeronia to Gaza, from Babylon to Cabul; By the time the first Aryan conquerors were learning the rudiments of war and government at the feet of the philosopher Aristotle; and by the time Athens was laying down the foundations of modern European civilization, the earliest and greatest Ethiopian culture had already flourished and dominated the civilized world for over four centuries and a half. Imperial Ethiopia had conquered Egypt and founded the XXVth Dynasty, and for a century and half the central seat of civilization in the known world was held by the ancestors of the modern Negro, maintaining and defending it against the Assyrian and Persian Empires of the East. Thus, at the time when Ethiopia was leading the civilized world in culture and conquest, East was East, but West was not, and the first European (Graecian) Olympiad was yet to be held. Rome was nowhere to be seen on the map, and sixteen centuries were to pass before Charlemagne would rule in Europe and Egbert became the first King of England. Even then, history was to drag on for another seven hundred weary years, before Roman Catholic Europe could see fit to end the Great Schism, soon to be followed by the disturbing news of the discovery of America and the fateful rebirth of the youngest of world civilizations."
 
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