Is the Xbox Series S already a failure?

[winb83]

Nothing you've said here makes any sense.

Their sales are still noticeably behind PlayStation and a portion of those sales include the Series S. That is a system made to come in an a more attractive $299 price point so Xbox could say we have a $299 next ( current now) generation console. It's also not beyond notice that well before the supply issues of the PS5 and Xbox Series X were resolved the Series S could be found and had easily. The majority don't want this they'd rather spend more for the premium experience.

This thing exist to appeal to what amounts to budget console gamers. It's a terrible value proposition. It doesn't have a physical disc drive, it lacks in storage, it's inferior in specs. It's a cut rate console for people who walk in and let price over value and functionality determine what they buy. It's like when Apple made those cheap plastic iPhones. shyt flopped and they stopped doing it. Hopefully this never happens again. The point of a console is standardization.

Now this thing exist for a whole generation and it holds things back to a weaker spec. Microsoft has a history of cutting corners on cost to get out an inferior experience for budget buyers. I remember the Xbox 360 didn't have a hard drive standard and it was a point of annoyance for developers an Microsoft for a while demanded games support the one without the hard drive. Eventually they allowed games that required a hard drive.

 

[FromStLouis]

Their sales are still noticeably behind PlayStation and a portion of those sales include the Series S. That is a system made to come in an a more attractive $299 price point so Xbox could say we have a $299 next ( current now) generation console. It's also not beyond notice that well before the supply issues of the PS5 and Xbox Series X were resolved the Series S could be found and had easily. The majority don't want this they'd rather spend more for the premium experience.

This thing exist to appeal to what amounts to budget console gamers. It's a terrible value proposition. It doesn't have a physical disc drive, it lacks in storage, it's inferior in specs. It's a cut rate console for people who walk in and let price over value and functionality determine what they buy. It's like when Apple made those cheap plastic iPhones. shyt flopped and they stopped doing it. Hopefully this never happens again. The point of a console is standardization.

Now this thing exist for a whole generation and it holds things back to a weaker spec. Microsoft has a history of cutting corners on cost to get out an inferior experience for budget buyers. I remember the Xbox 360 didn't have a hard drive standard and it was a point of annoyance for developers an Microsoft for a while demanded games support the one without the hard drive. Eventually they allowed games that required a hard drive.

Are you sure you know what people want?

 

[Unfiltered]

I don't know, people game of old PC cards all the time and play maybe 2-3 games tops...

I think the series S is a smart move, especially going towards the cloud and eventually we have to be honest game saves will get smaller even if Microsoft and Sony do it by force.

I think the plan is pretty effective though, not even has a 4k and alot of gamers are part timers anyway, a cheaper option with the 70% same experience makes sense.

And someone said the 5c was a failutre (apple) well the base option isn't much better just with a glass back and sold pretty well.

 

[winb83]

Copped one on sale for 200. None of this back and forth makes any sense. What needs to be talked about is the download sizes of these games. Everybody ain't rich

The extra $200 upfront is not a lot of money for a 5+ year purchase. For 60 months that's about an extra $3.33 in cost spread out over that 5 years. That isn't being rich to be able to afford that.

I've seen Series X sold on Facebook Marketplace for $400-$450 easy so in reality it can be had for less than full retail. You double your storage, get a physical disc drive that gives you more options for purchasing cheaper games and get smoother running games. Just adding additional storage to a Series S pushes it to almost the cost of a Series X.

In the long term just the money saved on the purchase of physical games on sale for stuff like Black Friday that the Xbox Store doesn't match will more than make up the difference of the higher upfront cost of a Series X. That and the fact that it has 1TB of storage instead of 512GBs.

 

[badboys11]

Breh u broke this down like a financial expert and I'm just trying to play the latest 2k

 

[badboys11]

The extra $200 upfront is not a lot of money for a 5+ year purchase. For 60 months that's about an extra $3.33 in cost spread out over that 5 years. That isn't being rich to be able to afford that.

I've seen Series X sold on Facebook Marketplace for $400-$450 easy so in reality it can be had for less than full retail. You double your storage, get a physical disc drive that gives you more options for purchasing cheaper games and get smoother running games. Just adding additional storage to a Series S pushes it to almost the cost of a Series X.

In the long term just the money saved on the purchase of physical games on sale for stuff like Black Friday that the Xbox Store doesn't match will more than make up the difference of the higher upfront cost of a Series X. That and the fact that it has 1TB of storage instead of 512GBs.

What the hell

 

[Software]

Series S is just a cheap way to get more gamepass subscribers because they probably did market research and saw that people with less money to spend on games are more likely to subscribe to game pass because of the value it offers but less likely to have the funds to buy a series x so they made the S

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

The Series S was a brilliant idea. Hell, look at games like A Plague's Tale. Albeit at a lower resolution, it's doing what it's supposed to do. The damn console can run Flight Simulator so I really don't want to hear complaints from others.

In a world that has people who play Fortnite on potatoes, this is a great way to get everyone up to speed with next gen gaming. On PC, you have to worry about multiple configurations from multiple vendors. This is just one more.

I will likely get one just for emulation purposes.

 

[badboys11]

Series S is just a cheap way to get more gamepass subscribers because they probably did market research and saw that people with less money to spend on games are more likely to subscribe to game pass because of the value it offers but less likely to have the funds to buy a series x so they made the S

I don't even know how to reply to this. There is not a significant difference between last gen and new gen . There are no next gen games that warrant dropping 500+ on a console. Bring the games out we can talk

 

[Software]

I don't even know how to reply to this. There is not a significant difference between last gen and new gen . There are no next gen games that warrant dropping 500+ on a console. Bring the games out we can talk

What do you need to reply to it about? I was just saying why the series S exists. To sell gamepass subscriptions

 

[winb83]

Are you sure you know what people want?

And PlayStation is still noticeably ahead of it despite not having a cheap $299 cut down option and being much further supply constrained.
Also every Xbox upon release is the fastest selling Xbox ever. The Xbox One was and it's total sales probably ended up close to half the Xbox 360's sales.
There are more people playing video games today than there were back in 2013-2015 the first few years of the last console's life. Unless the new Xbox is a complete and total failure it's going to perform better than the last one in an expanded marketplace with more potential customers.

This also doesn't change the fact that for the longest time the Xbox Series S could be had and found easily while the others were supply constrained.

 

[The Mad Titan]

I'm coping one for the old lady and or the front room soon

 

[The Mad Titan]

And PlayStation is still noticeably ahead of it despite not having a cheap $299 cut down option and being much further supply constrained.
Also every Xbox upon release is the fastest selling Xbox ever. The Xbox One was and it's total sales probably ended up close to half the Xbox 360's sales.
There are more people playing video games today than there were back in 2013-2015 the first few years of the last console's life. Unless the new Xbox is a complete and total failure it's going to perform better than the last one in an expanded marketplace with more potential customers.

This also doesn't change the fact that for the longest time the Xbox Series S could be had and found easily while the others were supply constrained.

I mean it's PlayStation, that's like saying Nike is still ahead even though puma and Adidas have some cheap shoe options.

It's a slow grind, there was a time when nobody was checking for puma or new balance at all. Now Reebok, Nike, adidas, new balance and puma all get mentioned in the same breath.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

All I see there is them not retaining players. The standard Xbox player is jumping ship and being replaced by a price sensitive player that is probably going to spend less in that ecosystem. The Xbox Series S should have never happened. It should have been like the PS5 where the cheaper SKU just didn't have the disc drive but had the same specs. As a company Microsoft could have afforded to take that hit to keep the specs even. Companies apparently don't want to carter to these budget console gamers.

Their sales are still noticeably behind PlayStation and a portion of those sales include the Series S. That is a system made to come in an a more attractive $299 price point so Xbox could say we have a $299 next ( current now) generation console. It's also not beyond notice that well before the supply issues of the PS5 and Xbox Series X were resolved the Series S could be found and had easily. The majority don't want this they'd rather spend more for the premium experience.

This thing exist to appeal to what amounts to budget console gamers. It's a terrible value proposition. It doesn't have a physical disc drive, it lacks in storage, it's inferior in specs. It's a cut rate console for people who walk in and let price over value and functionality determine what they buy. It's like when Apple made those cheap plastic iPhones. shyt flopped and they stopped doing it. Hopefully this never happens again. The point of a console is standardization.

Now this thing exist for a whole generation and it holds things back to a weaker spec. Microsoft has a history of cutting corners on cost to get out an inferior experience for budget buyers. I remember the Xbox 360 didn't have a hard drive standard and it was a point of annoyance for developers an Microsoft for a while demanded games support the one without the hard drive. Eventually they allowed games that required a hard drive.

The extra $200 upfront is not a lot of money for a 5+ year purchase. For 60 months that's about an extra $3.33 in cost spread out over that 5 years. That isn't being rich to be able to afford that.

I've seen Series X sold on Facebook Marketplace for $400-$450 easy so in reality it can be had for less than full retail. You double your storage, get a physical disc drive that gives you more options for purchasing cheaper games and get smoother running games. Just adding additional storage to a Series S pushes it to almost the cost of a Series X.

In the long term just the money saved on the purchase of physical games on sale for stuff like Black Friday that the Xbox Store doesn't match will more than make up the difference of the higher upfront cost of a Series X. That and the fact that it has 1TB of storage instead of 512GBs.

And PlayStation is still noticeably ahead of it despite not having a cheap $299 cut down option and being much further supply constrained.
Also every Xbox upon release is the fastest selling Xbox ever. The Xbox One was and it's total sales probably ended up close to half the Xbox 360's sales.
There are more people playing video games today than there were back in 2013-2015 the first few years of the last console's life. Unless the new Xbox is a complete and total failure it's going to perform better than the last one in an expanded marketplace with more potential customers.

This also doesn't change the fact that for the longest time the Xbox Series S could be had and found easily while the others were supply constrained.

Sony stan’s be saying some crazy shyt

 

[PS5 Pro]

All I see there is them not retaining players. The standard Xbox player is jumping ship and being replaced by a price sensitive player that is probably going to spend less in that ecosystem. The Xbox Series S should have never happened. It should have been like the PS5 where the cheaper SKU just didn't have the disc drive but had the same specs. As a company Microsoft could have afforded to take that hit to keep the specs even. Companies apparently don't want to carter to these budget console gamers.

The standard xbox player is jumping ship
The Series S shoudl have never happened you say
Let me learn you up by teaching these others whats good...

The extra $200 upfront is not a lot of money for a 5+ year purchase. For 60 months that's about an extra $3.33 in cost spread out over that 5 years. That isn't being rich to be able to afford that.

I've seen Series X sold on Facebook Marketplace for $400-$450 easy so in reality it can be had for less than full retail. You double your storage, get a physical disc drive that gives you more options for purchasing cheaper games and get smoother running games. Just adding additional storage to a Series S pushes it to almost the cost of a Series X.

In the long term just the money saved on the purchase of physical games on sale for stuff like Black Friday that the Xbox Store doesn't match will more than make up the difference of the higher upfront cost of a Series X. That and the fact that it has 1TB of storage instead of 512GBs.

You're iusing the logic that works for you, but you don't seem to grasp what it is for the average gamer which is their own financial situation which dictates what they have. What if they don't have a 4K set like most gamers still? Like, that is still the metric regardless of what the coli and other places say. You know what most gamers think of first and foremost? This...

Breh u broke this down like a financial expert and I'm just trying to play the latest 2k

@winb83 nah mean

What do you need to reply to it about? I was just saying why the series S exists. To sell gamepass subscriptions

Yes and no. The idea is to get you into the xbox ecosystem. Its more than just gamepass but gamepass will be the crown jewel so to speak.
With cloud gaming becoming the norm, by next gen it will be. So if there's no need for a physical system the only thing you have left is a service.
Gamepass cannot be matched by sony/nintendo. They not Future proof like that. And as gamepass becomes popular and they give you the cloud service for free. The need for a console becomes less and less necessary.

Now a sony gamer will attempt to sell you on how that reality is 10yrs away, but we have it today and it works flawlessly if you have 5g internet speeds.
And by the next console gen, our speeds will be so much faster that its a done deal about do we need systems anymore. NO, WE DON'T
The series S is here because its a great idea to get people into the next gen cheaply, and into the ecosystem. The ecosystem will consist of much more than just gamepass as time goes on, trust me on that