Is the theory that Ross was a dirty C.O. farfetched?

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None of them COs getting government checks...And who admits that he was undercover for a Mafia? The FEDs can pull out his record and connect him to any crime that occurred during his operation...

His a thread they can follow all the way to the mastermind who concocted the plan....

Another thing, the people you posted were just neighborhood friends of Big Timers, if they ever had their hands in the cookie jar, they would be doing football numbers like those who got caught...FEDs had those dudes under surveillance and they didn't even know it...The fact that Ja, Lupe ODB and Pusha T didn't get bundled up like Bobby Shmurda is proof enough that they new the players, but they themselves were NOT involved...These dudes had no ideas the FEDs were listening and watching...:mjlol:

The funny thing about Hip Hop is how these rappers GLORIFY their associations with crime, but when they get jammed up with the people they are glorifying then it is "but but but what about Arnold Schwartznegger and the terminator" :russ:

They be on some Peter denying Jesus three times shyt...:mjlol:

They caught Lupe on the wire on some Lester Freamon shyt though.
 

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I'm just trying to understand why a dude like Gunplay would make the allusions that he makes and others around Ross have said the things they've said without there being some hint to it.

And ok...lets get that evidence then. But it seems like you're just accepting the opposite assertion with equally less evidence.
Because Gunplay has a vested interest in pumping up Ross' street credibility because he's making money with him. It's not that hard to understand.
 
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They caught Lupe on the wire on some Lester Freamon shyt though.
That's what I stated, he was under surveillance and he didn't even know it, if he was about that life, he would be caged up right now...

The only other option is he snitched...

Wires don't lie...
 

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the theory that Ross is a dirty C.O. is only farfetched to those who don't like ross if we keeping it a buck. the story is NOT THAT ridiculous to believe but because ross lied about it initially it lessens the weight that it holds. But unless there has been actual boobie boy members flat out denying the shyt, im not gonna rule out anything.

because let's say boobie boy members actually backed up son's claim? the next logical thing to say to discredit ross further is "oh ross getting extorted by them so they vouching for him"

if you don't like the man there's nothing anyone can do or say thats gonna convince you he's the boss he says he is or has some kind of street credibility unless its some blatant shyt like beanie sigel having a shootout with cops or gucci mane killing that bmf flunkie. otherwise, those that don't like son are just gonna keep finding reasons to discredit it
 

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That's what I stated, he was under surveillance and he didn't even know it, if he was about that life, he would be caged up right now...

The only other option is he snitched...

Wires don't lie...

or the other option is Chilly took the wrap for him. which is what happened.

edit: im sure if he snitched on chilly, they wouldnt be on good terms. they're still cool to the point that the nikka chilly wife tried to accuse Lupe of hiding drug money still
 

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I lack the info breh :patrice:

its cool G lmao its moreso a Miami/FL thing

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or the other option is Chilly took the wrap for him. which is what happened.
That's not how it works...

If you incriminate yourself on the wire, you are doing time...Another person can't just say "it was all me" when they have you on tape playing your role...Different level of involvement gets different amount of time...
 

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That's not how it works...

If you incriminate yourself on the wire, you are doing time...Another person can't just say "it was all me" when they have you on tape playing your role...Different level of involvement gets different amount of time...

did you happen to read the indictment? they had enough to pin Chilly already. and besides having lupe on tape talking bout splitting up packages and having proof of lupe and chilly taking trips to meet with drug dealers i dont think they had enough to indict lupe at all. could be wrong though
 
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did you happen to read the indictment? they had enough to pin Chilly already. and besides having lupe on tape talking bout splitting up packages and having proof of lupe and chilly taking trips to meet with drug dealers i dont think they had enough to indict lupe at all. could be wrong though
Point me to the transcripts...FEDs don't just take one guy down, they wrap up the entire organization if they can...
 

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Point me to the transcripts...FEDs don't just take one guy down, they wrap up the entire organization if they can...

oh most definitely. like i said im not saying Lupe was involved but I wouldn't put it past him aswell. Besides Chief Keef no one ever questioned Lupe's credibilty, even though he barely flaunts it

this is the paperwork on one of the dudes Chilly (Charles Patton) name all over it. I think there was one specific on Chilly though

http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/r23_orders/appellatecourt/2011/1stdistrict/january/1071683_r23.pdf
 
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Every CO is dirty...

It's crazy how Ross is embraced for the last 10 years. Hip hop is mostly for fakkits nowadays so not surprising the fakkits give Ross a pass cuz he spits gangsta fairytales
 

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