Is The Joker More Popular Than Batman These Days?
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The first 2 are good enough really.
Most people might not know every single power, or they might know it but not how they got it.
Don't retcons change backgrounds?
That's why I said it doesn't have to be a comic head answer. A movie will fill you in.
If people don't care enough about a character, they could watch a movie or read a comic but not care enough to remember.
If somebody said Wolverine's real name was Logan and he's a mutant from canada who spent time in japan, that's a win. Even though it's been added to, subtracted from and retconned to hell comic wise.
At the same time, there's very few people who don't know superman is from krypton, his real name is Jor-El, his earth name is clark kent, he works as a reporter, he grew up on a farm, kryptonite, etc etc
Poetical Poltergeist
Precise and cold hearted
As of right this minute yes Joker is more popular. This new Batman has me intrigued until Pattinson was announced.
AnonymityX1000
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Yes, the MCU has hurt Superman's popularity especially with young people.Nah, you said Marvel/MCU changed that for the past 10 years with the movies.
Which doesn't matter because Supes is bigger than a hit movie. WW hadn't been hitting either. She didn't even have a movie of her own, and the demand was still there for the 1st one.
Now, 20,30, or 40+ years down the road of DC dropping the ball with Supes might change his status for newer generations.
Which gets back to the original point of the thread.
The Joker was a smash hit, and most recent hit. But he hasn't surpassed Batman. Not by a long shot.
MCU has had a nice run.
But it is still Superman, WW, Batman, and Spider-Man for iconic characters until further notice.
I mean do you want to point to the movies or not? There was no demand for Captain Marvel and her movie did better than WW's. What's that mean?
The MCU has changed the paradigm somewhat. They may not be as popular as Batman or Superman to everyone but like I said more people under 25 are more familiar with Tony Stark than they are with Clark Kent.
richaveli83
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Nope. Batman is one of the big three (Superman, Spider-Man) when it comes to superheroes. He's an icon that transcends comic books. Along with Superman and Spider-Man his origin is the most known throughout the world. Even if you've never read a comic book you know their origin. You'll always have a new Batman film or animated series in development. Joker was an anomaly. Now he's definitely the most popular villain.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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It don't mean much. Aquaman did better than Spider-Man and Captain Marvel. It means nothing other than that particular movie for whatever reason more people went to see. It means nothing in terms of long term popularity.
Lewis Black
Superstar
lol joker being more popular than batman
AnonymityX1000
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Yeah, so by the same token WW doing well doesn't mean much either but dude brought it up like it did.
blankstairz
Superstar
I didn't.
You said Superman wasn't hitting. Neither was WW. She didn't even have a movie of her own. Yet she was still an icon like Superman.
She was iconic before the movie. There was a demand for her movie because she was iconic.
The movie dropped and did well. Didn't change her status as an icon.
DlAMONDZ
That pu$$y got me grinning
Superman was 3rd in 2018 merch sales behind only Batman and Spider-ManHalloween costumes for kids: Princesses, heroes most popular for 2019
Sorry, you just don't know what you are talking about. Superman can't even crack the top 10.
AnonymityX1000
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Uh yeah you did.I didn't.
You said Superman wasn't hitting. Neither was WW. She didn't even have a movie of her own. Yet she was still an icon like Superman.
She was iconic before the movie. There was a demand for her movie because she was iconic.
The movie dropped and did well. Didn't change her status as an icon.
At least she has some successful media recently with a notable blockbuster coming out soon. What's Superman got since Christopher Reeves? Not a lot. Both attempts to reboot him theatrically failed. He has no movie in the pipeline. He is not in any type of demand.
AnonymityX1000
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He used to be #1 no? My point has to do with younger people not really feeling him since he hasn't had a major media moment since the 80s. Other heroes have filled the void.
blankstairz
Superstar
Uh yeah you did.
At least she has some successful media recently with a notable blockbuster coming out soon. What's Superman got since Christopher Reeves? Not a lot. Both attempts to reboot him theatrically failed. He has no movie in the pipeline. He is not in any type of demand.
No I didn't.
You keep going all over the place, straw man.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Nah, you said Marvel/MCU changed that for the past 10 years with the movies.
Which doesn't matter because Supes is bigger than a hit movie. WW hadn't been hitting either. She didn't even have a movie of her own, and the demand was still there for the 1st one.
Now, 20,30, or 40+ years down the road of DC dropping the ball with Supes might change his status for newer generations.
Which gets back to the original point of the thread.
The Joker was a smash hit, and most recent hit. But he hasn't surpassed Batman. Not by a long shot.
MCU has had a nice run.
But it is still Superman, WW, Batman, and Spider-Man for iconic characters until further notice.
You say hit movies don't matter and then point out WW had a hit movie. Who is really all over the place?No I didn't.
You keep going all over the place
