Is the center resurgence being realized this year?

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Did you just refer to Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman as "dominant big men"? I'm sure I've seen you push this nonsense before.

List all the Hall of Fame big men in the history of the NBA prior to 2009. Did they win ANYTHING without a talented guard/wing? I'll wait

at this nonsense.

at you accusing someone else of being a "SportsCenter casual".

The wing was almost always the second option but yeah they needed someone

 

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Like I said, you're a casual. The stuff Big men are doing now isn't "new"

Patrick Ewing was an automatic 17 foot jumpshooter
David Robinson could run the floor like any guard and guard multiple positions
Hakeem could knock down the three, and was an automatic jumpshooter. And could guard multiple positions and lead a fast break
Shaq in his younger days could lead the fast break
Bill Russell could bring the ball up
Wilt Chamberlain actually led the league in assists in a season
Rodman could guard all positions and run the floor
KG and Dirk could both put the ball on the floor like a small forward and shoot the 3
Bill Lambier, Cliff Robinson, and Rasheed Wallace were effective knock down 3 point shooters

And like I said, they haven't been a key component in a decade in the current NBA because they weren't any talent at that position in a decade


Anymore ESPN Sportscenter hottakes, casual

not new
but it's becoming the norm and rising to new levels
the most skilled player has been the centerpiece and it's staying that way

& hottakes make the world go round hoe wahahahahaa

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[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

just look at the Pelicans.

No ones convincing me that if Ewing and Malone were on the same team they wouldn’t be contenders

AD and Boogie looking funny

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

To answer OP

Yeah the position is strong but no all time greats

 

[010101]

Don’t agree with this at all.

Unless it’s MJ and maybe Bron

Give me the elite center. I think most GMs and coaches would agree with that.

look at who has dominated the spotlight for basically the whole modern era
i'm just going off what i observe

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[010101]

The wing was almost always the second option but yeah they needed someone

that hasn't been the case for a minute
the first option tends to be the most skilled player on the floor capable of feeding themselves and others
very rarely has that ever been a big because they need to be fed in most cases

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[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

look at who has dominated the spotlight for basically the whole modern era
i'm just going off what i observe

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Ok let’s do it. Off the top of my head contenders in the Dream team era have been lead by:

Jordan
Curry
Durant
Bron
Kobe
Nash
Dirk
Duncan
Shaq
D Robinson
Hakeem
Ewing
Webber

So it’s pretty mixed.

 

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the new formula seems to be most skilled squad wins
if your bigs gawd skills ain't on par he might get done dirty tryna swim out on the perimeter
good gawd almighty jahahahahaa

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[CarltonJunior]

No ones convincing me that if Ewing and Malone were on the same team they wouldn’t be contenders

AD and Boogie looking funny

Well AD & Boogie have a postitive record in the early season while the rest of them nikkas on their squad have talent reminiscent of your local LA Fitness player.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

that hasn't been the case for a minute
the first option tends to be the most skilled player on the floor capable of feeding themselves and others
very rarely has that ever been a big because they need to be fed in most cases

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There also hasn’t been an all time great big come in the league for a long time

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

the new formula seems to be most skilled squad wins
if your bigs gawd skills ain't on par he might get done dirty tryna swim out on the perimeter
good gawd almighty jahahahahaa

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But we haven’t seen a big as good as Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan etc come in the NBA so it’s tough to say

 

[010101]

Ok let’s do it. Off the top of my head contenders in the Dream team era have been lead by:

Jordan
Curry
Durant
Bron
Kobe
Nash
Dirk
Duncan
Shaq
D Robinson
Hakeem
Ewing
Webber

So it’s pretty mixed.

the best player has been a gawd/perimeter player for a while
plus the teams winning chips definitely had sufficient guard play/perimeter play
even in the time when bigs were in supposed decline the constant was a skilled guard to carry the load

kobe got rings after shaq and shaq never saw nothing without either mamba or flash

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[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

But the craziest shyt to show how different it is...

There are seven centers who are averaging 16+ ppg so far this season.

Every single one of them is shooting twice as many threes/game as MJ averaged in his career, and every one other than Embiid is shooting them at a better clip too.

Would Jordan have even played with a 3 point line before college?

 

[Rigby.]

Austin Wiley could be on that list one day

 

[010101]

But we haven’t seen a big as good as Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan etc come in the NBA so it’s tough to say

looks like we got a gang of bigs putting up video game stats right now
and if they played in past eras it would look even crazier
yet those bigs teams ain't broke through yet

and the guard centric/skill centric teams are rewriting stat books
it's a future of all guards of varying heights basically
all that stiff shyt in the paint is supplementary now you can't let that be all you got now

all glory be to the gawds muahahahahaa

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