Is Snowfall on the same level as Breaking Bad

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This.

Breaking bad was constantly writing itself into corners and abusing the hell out of Deus ex machina to keep the story going. And to add on they never really fleshed out any of their characters outside of Jesse and Walter. Snowfall on the other hand has done a pretty good job in that regards.

I did enjoy breaking bad no doubt but snowfall is definitely the better written show

That's a lie. People hated Skyler, but she was definitely a fleshed out character. Gus is only in the show for a couple seasons, but by the time he leaves we know his strengths, what motivates him, what he wants, and the weaknesses that lead to his downfall.
 

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That's a lie. People hated Skyler, but she was definitely a fleshed out character. Gus is only in the show for a couple seasons, but by the time he leaves we know his strengths, what motivates him, what he wants, and the weaknesses that lead to his downfall.



Skyler was actually one of the people I was thinking of while I made that point. They really never dove into her inner life, apart from how it effects Walt. That's why the audience eventually ended up hating her. I can't even think of a time where she was amused by sometime else in the show; little things like that would've rounded her out more.

And Gus to me was like a James Bond villian which really threw me off because the first two seasons of breaking bad were grounded in reality compared to the last three.


It's still a top show but I think people confuse it for being a character driven show instead of plot driven one.
 
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One of the biggest gifs is

“he can’t keep getting away with this”

We knew whatever situation Walter got in he was going to get out of it.

so where is the unpredictable BB u are talking about?


I’ll keep preaching this. Around 2011 or 2012 we started viewing and critiquing shows and movies a lot different. There’s not a show out there right now that doesn’t get criticized for its writing. If we criticized all the older shows with 2021 eyes they’d get torn apart.
 

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One of the biggest gifs is

“he can’t keep getting away with this”

We knew whatever situation Walter got in he was going to get out of it.

so where is the unpredictable BB u are talking about?



I'd point to the train heist scene. Nobody really talks about it as one of the GOAT Breaking Bad scenes, but it's pretty symbolic of why the show is great. The scene is long and the heist is elaborate, but it's mad tense and the pacing is fantastic. Walt and Jesse technically get away with it, but they don't really "get away with it" (the video doesn't include the conclusion of the robbery).
 

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nowhere near. I definitely like slower paced shows more and I believe Better Call Saul to be better but dude dissolves a body 2 episodes in :wow:

All these streaming series that are hyper-serialized are BB's sons
 

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Skyler was actually one of the people I was thinking of while I made that point. They really never dove into her inner life, apart from how it effects Walt. That's why the audience eventually ended up hating her. I can't even think of a time where she was amused by sometime else in the show; little things like that would've rounded her out more.

And Gus to me was like a James Bond villian which really threw me off because the first two seasons of breaking bad were grounded in reality compared to the last three.


It's still a top show but I think people confuse it for being a character driven show instead of plot driven one.

No, the audience hated Skyler because she cheated on Walt and thought she nagged him constantly when he was trying to build an empire. The audience always turns on the drug dealer's wife when she's not ride-or-die (see Soprano, Carmella).

Unlike most James Bond villains Gus was actually terrifying. He was so good at keeping his cover as the immigrant success story that the DEA never even caught a whiff of him before Walt came along.

I can't find the whole box cutter scene, but Gus never said more than a few words that entire scene. He didn't have to.

 

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I’ll keep preaching this. Around 2011 or 2012 we started viewing and critiquing shows and movies a lot different. There’s not a show out there right now that doesn’t get criticized for its writing. If we criticized all the older shows with 2021 eyes they’d get torn apart.

There are plenty of shows out there that had almost universal praise for the writing. They're just not the cult shows people watch. You'll struggle to find a critic that didn't love Watchman, Fleabag, or Better Call Saul.
 

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The criticism of knowing Walt gets out of anything is applicable to Franklin in Season 4 of Snowfall. I feel like the show got more predictable after Singleton died.
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