Is Kendrick Lamar the best execution of an industry plant in the history of music?

[Grand Conde]

I wonder what words people used to use before 'industry plant' was invented?










Oh that's right, people didn't give a shyt just as long as the music was dope.

 

[wingstop]

How J. Cole is an industry plant when he REJECTS the industry????

at you believing that gimmick

 

[hex]

Plus the record company job is to push an artist. It's a business I don't see why people can't understand that. Maybe my definition of plant is different, but it's really to me.

This is the same thing I said before. People expect labels to drop millions of dollars on an artist and then what....slang the album out of their trunk on some E-40 shyt?

They are gonna stack the odds in their favorite any way they can. Not saying it's right or wrong but ultimately if you know the game it's not going to affect your opinion either way.

Fred.

 

[wingstop]

this is how you know a fukking idiot

Drake literally hustled to get where he is. More than Kendrick.

delusional

Drake is more of a plant than Kendrick is

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

As far as the thread if yall want to talk about plants and solely focus on Kendrick Lamar....you obviously have an agenda. Because everything you say about him, could also be applied to Drake. And Chance for that matter.

Fred.

Except, it can't.

Drake didn't have any of that backing. Dude got discovered like actual talents do

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

delusional

Drake is more of a plant than Kendrick is

He's not.

Dude was trying to get signed his hardest. I had tickets to two of his shows before So Far Gone came out and one of those shows got cancelled

He's nothing like kendrick.

Some of y'all may have not been online in 2007.

Drake had the biggest buzz in your lifetimes. Easily the most anticipated act of the last decade plus.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

DING DING DING

if anyone this nikka is a plant

they've put SO much money into chance and over his entire career... 1 song made it to rotation

and honestly it was wayne and 2chainz that boosted it

chance seems like a good dude but they shoulda put that machine behind vic mensa

THAT nikka IS NICE and can make great solo tracks

Who is they? Please break it down because Chance built his own team within the industry.. they didn't find him and plant him there. They are not a label... Why would they push another rapper lol. Be mad a kid from Rich family used his means to make a way. I think the coli just thinks people should struggle for the fukk of it even when they don't have to. That's not real

Stop making shyt up Vic been signed before chance.

If puffy son wanted to rap and his dad was willing to finance his career and leverage his connections to get his son started on the right path that would be expected. NOW if the son sucks but continues to be elevated despite being bad and pushed then he is a plant.

Kendrick, Chance.... They all have skills and fans that support them. They are not being forced on anyone. Most people on here have even said they don't know chance music so how is he a plant. You don't hear his shyt which means his fans seek him out. A plant would be force played. Kendrick got hits. Be mad brehs. Be very mad

 

[Rekkapryde]

yall nikkaz and this tinfoil hat shyt

 

[RammerJammer]

First it was Chance the was a industry plant, now y'all running with the Kendrick is a plant angle now

Based on y'all criteria, anyone selling in hip hop these days is a industry plant

Any rapper that's not trap or biting dancehall is a industry plant huh?

Any rapper that's not making chicks twerk they ass off in the club is a industry plant huh?

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

His music is devoid of testosterone.

His voice makes him sound like a little dog barking when he tries to diss or prove a point.

He sounds like a little geek who raps to himself at night in his basement when nobody's around.

Oh and if I want to listen to some eclectic jazzy music I'll listen to some eclectic jazzy music cause there are plenty of this shyt. I don't need a rap album for that, talkin about oh my god he's bringing jazz music to hip hop again, THIS IS SO DEEP.

Typical contrarian I hate shyt others like because they like it.

In a genre full of mush mouth mumble rap the nikka that enunciates got you heated

You'd rather hear a dude that sound like he fumbling with balls in his mouth cuz that's real manly and full of that testosterone you need so much in your music. I wonder what your dumb ass would have done if rap was never invented.

*Doesn't listen to music because it's all soft ass singing n shyt.

 

[GoldenGlove]

DING DING DING

if anyone this nikka is a plant

they've put SO much money into chance and over his entire career... 1 song made it to rotation

and honestly it was wayne and 2chainz that boosted it

chance seems like a good dude but they shoulda put that machine behind vic mensa

THAT nikka IS NICE and can make great solo tracks

STFU

 

[John Hull]

none of these guys were plants so this whole comparison is null & void
don't try to apply the 50 cent argument to Kendrick.

50 was organic and was the underground king before going mainstream. that's why that argument works for him.

This is circular reasoning. Do you work in Interscope accounting? I'm explaining to you that merely having an affiliation with Interscope and getting a "push" does not guarantee success. I even reminded y'all that Dre came out and publicly endorsed Kendrick so this idea that he was being cultivated secretly is bs.

I just threw Truth Hurts in there as another Interscope/Aftermath flop that had a major release.

 

[SunZoo]

are you really gonna sit here and re-hash this same argument that I shut down yesterday when I chased you out of the other thread?

I thoroughly explained the difference between artist development & plant development.

hip-hoppers love to play dumb. that's why we don't own this chit now.

I don't care, here's what you can do, debate these points if you want...you ain't changing my mind but you might change someone elses.

- Kendrick has been given a platform..you might think he's overrated or outright wack, but I don't think a lot of people would disagree that he's making good with his opportunity and honestly expressing himself through rap...that's enough for me.

- Grooming an artist "behind the scenes" and getting them polished before they went public was standard practice. The only reason they do it like they do it now is because there is no reason to waste time "practicing" when you can let them develop as "indie" artists and still sell their music.

You nikkas act like figuring that out is such a revalation and such an important thing to point up, who gives a fukk...Record Labels sell music, surprise surprise surprise.

As for your point in the bold, we NEVER really owned this shyt. We may have had more say/input at one time because we were the core demographic of consumers and the gate keepers as far as the parameters of the culture, but the jack move was in effect as soon as Rappers Delight hit the air waves.

Pointing out "industry plants" is a lost cause. You aren't going to get control or ownership back of some shyt we never controlled or owned in the first place...L-I-G it Reggie..there are better ways to go about this.

 

[wingstop]

He's not.

Dude was trying to get signed his hardest. I had tickets to two of his shows before So Far Gone came out and one of those shows got cancelled

He's nothing like kendrick.

Some of y'all may have not been online in 2007.

Drake had the biggest buzz in your lifetimes. Easily the most anticipated act of the last decade plus.

He is, he literally was throwing money around paying for relationships and linking up with already established artists.

Then he was acting like he was independent by the time so far gone came out

Both are plants in a way but kendricks come up is more organic

 

[Dwight Howard]

Is this supposed to be a bad thing? If a label is willing to invest millions in your talent I'd say that's a positive and pretty telling of your talent.