Is Kendrick Lamar the best execution of an industry plant in the history of music?

[Biscayne]

Threads like these are what keep the coli wheels greased.

Threads like these define the booth.

 

[TheRtist]

If people want to make the argument that it was astro turf'd because they didn't announce the deal out of fear of alienating the 'underground' image I think that's fine but he's not a plant.

a plant means someone is signed and they pretend they are underground...Travis explained it in that video...plus there are articles announcing him signing to Aftermath before Section.80.

 

[TheRtist]

Drake is the most successful pop rap plant
Kendrick is the most successful "conscious" plant

Kendrick's whole story is perfect
-From Compton, a city with a lot of hip hop history behind it, as well as being known as a rough city to grow up in
-Got a Dre cosign
-"goes against the grain" of the mainstream while simultaneously being a part of it
-"Gets signed" after being indie when in reality he's been signed for years
-Critically acclaimed no matter what he does, like Kanye, even for subpar records like Section.80
-Section.80 his breakout record received shyt tons of critical acclaim at a perfect time
-Major label backing
-Massive debut of GKMC (which is really a good record), tons of guests from the industry, Dre cosign
-Critically acclaimed crew when they're all pretty subpar, Ab-Soul especially
-Schoolboy Q receiving critical acclaim for not good records
-came from a group that was buzzing in the undergound, likely completely manufactured as a group
-Released hipster bait "jazz" hip hop and some kind of overarching concept that people can't seem to agree on
-Make it slightly more difficult and inaccessible so people can pat themselves on the back for liking it
-Enlist industry legends such as George Clinton
-Got more critical acclaim
-Connected himself to 2pac in one of the most corny moves in hip hop history, trying to solidify his "GOAT" narrative
-Buzz over an alright verse in Control simply because he called people out
-Conveniently connected to interscope and aftermath, a group known for manufacturing "GOATs" (Eminem anyone?)

And does Kendrick ever really say anything controversial? Is anyone paying attention to what Kendrick is saying besides the fans? I doubt it. He's no household name.

To me this is like Eminem's story. They just made a pop star into a GOAT rapper by having a dude with some talent. Em has no real classics, Kendrick, well time will tell. TPAB is damn sure no 9/10 though. It's all marketing, and you know they're invested heavily into Kenny and the whole narrative they have going. They have SO much money in this. It's not Drake vs Kenny and the people, it's Drake's McDonald's vs Kendrick's Burger King. Two manufactured icons.

damn breh u kept it 10000000

 

[sporticus]

Nope. This guy is.

Planted by whom and where?

That's the part that people conveniently leave out of their grand conspiracy theories and tall tales concerning this guy.
They didn't plant him in the urban scene because I don't know of any urban areas that play his music. He's not signed to any label and he doesn't have any actual albums. It's not like he has a million hot singles all over the charts. He's got like one big song.

I've yet to hear anyone tell me who the hell planted Chance The Rapper and where they planted the guy.

 

[TheRtist]

I think it's less to sell albums and more to establish an emotional connection for when they actually "debut".

You had cats on here not wanting to count S80 as an album when it went gold when it was time to compare his first album to the other top 5 rappers of all time.

FACTSSSS

yall fail to realize that when there is an emotional connection the music sounds better...

 

[TheRtist]

Planted by whom and where?

That's the part that people conveniently leave out of their grand conspiracy theories and tall tales concerning this guy.
They didn't plant him in the urban scene because I don't know of any urban areas that play his music. He's not signed to any label and he doesn't have any actual albums. It's not like he has a million hot singles all over the charts. He's got like one big song.

I've yet to hear anyone tell me who the hell planted Chance The Rapper and where they planted the guy.

CAA.

His whole management is essentially a label. Word is he is/was signed to Interscope too.

Dude is not a Master P and is not making those deals/opportunities on his own.

 

[Biscayne]

damn breh u kept it 10000000

Person you quoted basically said "His story is too polished, convenient and seemingly too reputable to believe". I haven't heard Section80, I've never called it a dope album, I haven't heard it. Everyone who's heard it said it was pretty dope. But again, just saying "this project he did was subpar, that song he did was corny, and he only got on because he was from Compton, and rapped fast" is just based on personal theories, and contempt for artist, for whatever reason. It's not concrete evidence as to why the love that he receives is inorganic or manufactured. It's just based on your personal taste.

 

[Biscayne]

So KDOT was fake indie to establish an emotional connection, and that ultimately benefited how he was perceived as an artist for the rest of his career? Plausible theory......

But I don't even remember a "rise from obscurity" story being used to push GKMC. I just remember folks hearing it and being like including me. Maybe all the "Is he or ain't he Indie" arguments was just a hip-hop forum phenomenon. I wasn't on The Coli, or SOHH, or any other website when GKMC dropped, so I didn't see the phenomenon of users using his "rise from obscurity", as a tally on his "real artists" board.

Again, I heard the name "Kendrick Lamar" here and there, but never heard his music. So GKMC had a "damn I BARELY know who this cat is, but he's now my fave mainstream rapper" reaction.. I just happened to listen to a leaked version of GKMC on YouTube with no preconceived opinion on the artist. Couldn't have been more organic than that. First time I heard Swimming Pools, I thought it was dope, but it didn't make me wanna go to Itunes and purchase GKMC. I didn't even know that was the name of his album, until I listened to the leaked YouTube version and saw the cover art.

 

[MostHatedBox]

So KDOT was fake indie to establish an emotional connection, and that ultimately benefited how he was perceived as an artist for the rest of his career? Plausible theory......

But I don't even remember a "rise from obscurity" story being used to push GKMC. I just remember folks hearing it and being like including me. Maybe all the "Is he or ain't he Indie" arguments was just a hip-hop forum phenomenon. I wasn't on The Coli, or SOHH, or any other website when GKMC dropped, so I didn't see the phenomenon of users using his "rise from obscurity", as a tally on his "real artists" board.

Again, I heard the name "Kendrick Lamar" here and there, but never heard his music. So GKMC had a "damn I BARELY know who this cat is, but he's now my fave mainstream rapper" reaction.. I just happened to listen to a leaked version of GKMC on YouTube with no preconceived opinion on the artist. Couldn't have been more organic than that. First time I heard Swimming Pools, I thought it was dope, but it didn't make me wanna go to Itunes and purchase GKMC. I didn't even know that was the name of his album, until I listened to the leaked YouTube version and saw the cover art.

Exactly breh. I remember listening to Overly Dedicated and Section 80 and just enjoying the music I had no clue who Kendrick was at the time. You'd have to be a real weirdo to think something like this matters because the artist still has to deliver good music at the end of the day plant or not.

 

[Aba_juggin]

See you

they got him when he was 16

made him do 5 mixtapes as practice (yeah... sure )

then signed him

made him do 2 more mixtapes to "naturally" grown buzz ( clown ass fans)

then that wack ass good kid maad city album. really had people going

then he wanna start kicking knowledge

ok, pimp your butterfly buddy

fans predictably ate that up

now DAMN.

DAMN. they got yall

only took 15 years for the kendrick lamar project to really take off

great thread op, keep exposing these rappers and they lame ass stans

Are you being sarcastic?

 

[Aba_juggin]

DING DING DING

if anyone this nikka is a plant

they've put SO much money into chance and over his entire career... 1 song made it to rotation

and honestly it was wayne and 2chainz that boosted it

chance seems like a good dude but they shoulda put that machine behind vic mensa

THAT nikka IS NICE and can make great solo tracks

the innanetape was in rotation back in 14'. Then he got dreads tats and started acting different and it reflected in the music. Chance is alright I just found him annoying.

 

[Way Of The Gun]

a plant means someone is signed and they pretend they are underground...Travis explained it in that video...plus there are articles announcing him signing to Aftermath before Section.80.

That's the true definition right there..and Drake is the biggest one and possibly Kendrick as well.

But Chance no doubt is the latest.

 

[calh45]

bro kendrick has been in the machine since he was like 18

if you wanna call that a plant, sure

but if his music was trash there would be no kendrick lamar

the music is all that matters

the industry can only do so much

idk why that's so hard for you to understand

It's just folks coming up with reasons why they shyt or their brothers or their cousins shyt ain't blow up. To them, it's impossible to actually make it independent to the place where Kendrick is so the folks that made it had the Illuminati push this whole time.

 

[Wacky D]

I'm ignoring it because it doesn't matter.

this is pretty gay of you.

dudes in denial and admittedly scared to face the facts.

just say you like the bul and keep it movin.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Must of been a plant in concrete because it took a minute for it to grow