Is Fatherlessness A Black Women's Problem, or A Black Males' Problem?

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I don't find that hard to believe. The black boys that I knew who were raised by their father are on a good path. Don't get me wrong they can do wrong, but it is waaaay more rampant when it comes from single mother households. Fathers are much better disciplinarians and consistent too. Mothers don't really try to discipline their child until they hit their tweens and teens. There is a lot that goes on in black single mother households that nobody talks about. A matriarchy is a recipe for disaster. Patriarchy demands structure and accountability. That is what the black community needs. When black women allow themselves to get pregnant by worthless men it puts worthless men in charge and pushes out the good black men. The worthless men have no interest in being leaders, providers, and protectors. This leaves the black community open for more destruction. Then you have women who can not teach a boy how to be a man, and ignite hatred for men in their daughters. You have boys thinking looking for their manhood in the wrong places and girls hating the idea of a man being a leader.

Yeah. You're 100% correct.

It's definitely a recipe for disaster.

Black women claim to want leaders but always seem to get knocked up by worthless nikkas!

Somehow, after the fact, they all become experts at defining what a "real" man is!
 

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We aren't even talking about marriage here.

We're talking about Black women making the decision to bring all these women into the Black community outside the confines of marriage.

70% OoW births, brehette.

No one is pointing a gun at those Black women's heads and forcing them to carry those babies nine months.

A lot of our problems would be solved if Black women would simply live up to the religious ideals they claim to live by.

It's interesting in that they are the most religious group in the United States, yet lead in terms of OoW births! That's crazy to me.

"Out of wedlock", so yeah we are talking about marriage.

There's something wrong with both sides when women aren't collecting demanding marriage and men aren't wifing. Yall have a part in it too. Women can decide to take birth control, men can wear condoms (but raw feels so good :comeon:) but both don't when they have a OOW child.
 

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We aren't even talking about marriage here.

We're talking about Black women making the decision to bring all these women into the Black community outside the confines of marriage.

70% OoW births, brehette.

No one is pointing a gun at those Black women's heads and forcing them to carry those babies nine months.

A lot of our problems would be solved if Black women would simply live up to the religious ideals they claim to live by.

It's interesting in that they are the most religious group in the United States, yet lead in terms of OoW births! That's crazy to me.

It's against my religion to get an abortion so I'm having the baby. So it wasn't against you religion to engage in premarital sex? :wtf:
 

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impossible.
again who chose who
women are the gatekeepers to their body and to who they date

you decide whether its manuel or markel

Yeah. It's always this "it's a collective problem" or "it takes an entire village" bullshyt once the shyt hits the fan.

But, when nikkas are telling them straight up to make better decisions, it's the "it's my body", "don't shame me", "I can date who I please" talk.

It's not a collective problem. It's a deadbeat nikka and Black women who entertain them problem.
 

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That's the lie you tell yourself so you can keep on hating black men?

Your hopeless and a c00n.


It can be the opposite if more people focused on them. We need to spread awareness about the good black men among black women.

Good black men and women should marry and procreate with each other tbh.

impossible.
again who chose who
women are the gatekeepers to their body and to who they date

you decide whether its manuel or markel

But men do the wifing right? Yall ultimately choose who's wifey material and who's not, who gets a ring and your last name right?
 

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Yeah. You're 100% correct.

It's definitely a recipe for disaster.

Black women claim to want leaders but always seem to get knocked up by worthless nikkas!

Somehow, after the fact, they all become experts at defining what a "real" man is!

standards before, skin tone, swag, car he drives, eggplant size

standards after a b*stard - gotta be a real man, be a provider, a good man, gotta be in the church and wait for marriage for sex
 

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Let's not get into that and how black women are entering clearly destructive relationships when there are obvious red flags. I've seen several times. Told an acquaintance to stay away from some dope boy she was seeing. She got mad at me and said I was being boujie. Dude whooped her ass and cheated on her. Was I shocked? Nope. Did I feel sorry for her? Nope
I suppose you're going to tell me how black women facing higher rates of intraracial violence has nothing to do with black males either. :dead: Then you have the actual gall to lecture me about accountability. What are black males responsible for?
That's the lie you tell yourself so you can keep on hating black men?

Your hopeless and a c00n.


It can be the opposite if more people focused on them. We need to spread awareness about the good black men among black women.
I am not a c00n, and I don't hate black men.
 

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But men do the wifing right? Yall ultimately choose who's wifey material and who's not, who gets a ring and your last name right?

men aint marrying these thots
they may procreate but they aint marrying and many times not even wifing

even these bum ass nikkaz being led by their dikks wont give commitment
 

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Yeah. It's always this "it's a collective problem" or "it takes an entire village" bullshyt once the shyt hits the fan.

But, when nikkas are telling them straight up to make better decisions, it's the "it's my body", "don't shame me", "I can date who I please" talk.

It's not a collective problem. It's a deadbeat nikka and Black women who entertain them problem.
I didn't marry or have a child with a deadbeat and I'm a woman and yet I recognize its a collective problem that falls on the community.
 

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"Out of wedlock", so yeah we are talking about marriage.

There's something wrong with both sides when women aren't collecting demanding marriage and men aren't wifing. Yall have a part in it too. Women can decide to take birth control, men can wear condoms (but raw feels so good :comeon:) but both don't when they have a OOW child.

Why would men wife if women aren't demanding marriage? :dahell: That's ass backward.

If he can get all the benefits of marriage without wifing, why would he?
 

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Yeah. It's always this "it's a collective problem" or "it takes an entire village" bullshyt once the shyt hits the fan.

But, when nikkas are telling them straight up to make better decisions, it's the "it's my body", "don't shame me", "I can date who I please" talk.

It's not a collective problem. It's a deadbeat nikka and Black women who entertain them problem.

preach
 

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men aint marrying these thots
they may procreate but they aint marrying and many times not even wifing

even these bum ass nikkaz being led by their dikks wont give commitment
What thots? You called me a old thot earlier. :dead:

It's not as cut and dry, sometimes its naivete too. Believing you can change a man or just all together making the wrong decision as a youngster. Birth control seems to be a issue. Some folks use abortion as a form of birth control and are against condoms and spread around STDs. Its a lot of ignorance flying around. Destruction breeds more destruction.
 
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