Is Empire the WOAT TV series of this generation

[Ol’Otis]

Ya bytch about no black shows being in tv, low n behold a black show arrives created by a black man.....nikkaz shyt on it n get it cancelled





"Empire" is GOAT

Lee Daniels is NOT black

 

[mrken12]

They just be making shyt up as they go along. So many loose plots and dropped storylines, basically proves the disposable nature of the show.
By the time they got to dropping the white girl off the side of the building and having her come bacc as a ghost to haunt the bi-polar son I was done.

Wait what? Some of this stuff is so absurd that I almost want to watch it.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

its a night time soap.... its supposed to be over the top

and no, its not the worst

 

[MalikX]

Waste of potential. If they had the writers from Power, it would be a near classic show. The writing is fukking atrocious.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Now do any of these series have something as bad and crimgeworthy as this

Yeah they do, that show Viva Laughlin was some bullshyt murder mystery musical about a casino owner. shyt only lasted for 2 episodes before being cancelled.

 

[Soundbwoy]

I watched the first season people kept recommending it, I knew I was in for some bullshyt when Lucius threw his son in the garbage for being gay

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Out of all the shows that Fox has rolled out you think Empire is WOAT?

A lot of honkeys post here

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I watched the first season people kept recommending it, I knew I was in for some bullshyt when Lucius threw his son in the garbage for being gay

Wait, that's was one of the GOAT moments of the show tho. The pure hatred and absurdity...

 

[Soundbwoy]

Wait, that's was one of the GOAT moments of the show tho. The pure hatered and absurdity...

Exactly

 

[Wallychamp]

Wait, that's was one of the GOAT moments of the show tho. The pure hatered and absurdity...

Classic moment in tv history

 

[KingJay]

never seen it
yes

 

[Big Boss]

yep....stop watching after Season 1 episode 3

 

[Ol’Otis]

Ya bytch about no black shows being in tv, low n behold a black show arrives created by a black man.....nikkaz shyt on it n get it cancelled





"Empire" is GOAT

Lee Daniels is NOT black

 

[ALonelyDad]

Stopped watching after season 2. shyt got worse each season.


Show had potential though

 

[OVER]

I watched the first season people kept recommending it, I knew I was in for some bullshyt when Lucius threw his son in the garbage for being gay

Wait, that's was one of the GOAT moments of the show tho. The pure hatred and absurdity...

Lee Daniels claims that really happened to him

My dad was playing cards one Sunday with his cop friends and I put on my mother’s red pumps and walked down the stairs. And then I got beat, he beat me severely for it. He beat me really bad, but that didn’t stop me because the following Sunday I put on her blue high heel shoes and walked down the stairs. This time with her purse.It was a very hard scene to direct because it’s something that happened to me. Because I haven’t gone to therapy, this is sort of therapeutic for me, it’s healing for me to work through my art. Yes, he puts on his mother’s high heels, the son does, and he walks down the stairs, and the father puts him in the trashcan.

Strong, an avowed hip-hop fan, conceived of the show while driving in Los Angeles (he’s from Southern California but now lives in New York). He immediately called Daniels, with whom he had collaborated on “Butler” and who is avowedly not a hip-hop fan. (The director had to be told who Timbaland was when the artist was brought on to oversee music for the show.)

Several days later, Strong and Daniels were hashing out ideas for Empire at Daniels’ apartment, an eclectically decorated space that, among other flourishes, included a hammock lined with an animal print.

“When Lee told the story about how as a child he came in the room in high heels and his dad threw him in a trash can,” Strong said, “I was sitting there thinking, ‘I’m putting this in the show. I’m just not telling him right now.'”

“I was so uncomfortable,” Daniels said

In the pilot episode, Lucious, in a politically incorrect way, speaks out against Jamal’s homosexuality. In a heart-wrenching flashback, we see Lucious throwing a six-year old Jamal, dressed in drag, in a garbage pail. The inspiration for the scene, wasn’t melodrama for melodrama’s sake, rather it was an actual episode straight out of Daniels’ life.

“Lee Daniels was that little boy and his father put him in the trash can,” recalled Howard.

“Watching Lee while we were shooting this — at one point, he had to look away because he was in tears, because he was facing it. His mother was also there on the set. It was cathartic for Lee. Lee would not allow me to show any compassion in the scene. He reminded me how much Lucious loved little Jamal, but my need for the boy to be a strong man was greater than my need to show my love to him. That was a difficult scene.”

Added Howard, “I got to tell the story that a lot of men throughout the world are afraid to tell because sometimes we are too P.C.”

I don't disbelieve him, a lot of these writers be inject their life on their shows. Alan Ball another homosexual and former showrunner and producer for both True-Blood and Banshee had scenes where their resident effeminate gay character beat up homophobes in diners for insulting their zestiness. I don't think it's a coincidence this scenario happened in two of his shows.