Is Dr. Dre at the root of all the destructive trends in rap? EDIT: Just the music, not the ills of the Black community

[1thouwow]

Post that photo of dr Dre on the cover of a magazine

 

[FeverPitch2]

who were they banging with?

NWA was mostly a gimmick but it did mirror real life.
Eazy was really about that life and had no interest in being a rapper. He and Ren were Kelly Park Crips.
Dre and Yella were DJs and musicians
Cube was a high school kid with a hot pen.
They're basically the gangsta rap version of The Monkees. (Two were actors, two were musicians)

This is Ice Cube with Dr. Dre on the boards before NWA


Back then, it wasn't acceptable to promote gangbanging
Cube went on to say "I don't bang. I rock a good rhyme" on Amerikkka's Most Wanted.
Most West Coast artists at the time had at least one anti-gangbanging song on their albums, even though they were in gangs.
By the time Snoop and the original Death Row crew came around, that had changed.


They even went as far to make this
They really only made this to cash in on the huge success of the East Coast joint Self Destruction

 

[FeverPitch2]

I would say record execs but before even them it's consumers.

If consumers wanted Church friendly, PG rap, that's what execs would be chasing and what record labels would be putting out

You're trying to single out the one guy who left gangsta rap he helped create to make more positive music only to come back because that's what the consumer market dictated.

Dre was doing his thing before the major labels bought into gangsta rap.

 

[FeverPitch2]

N.W.A. was only the face of the problem. You need to point fingers at the people that was pulling their strings from behind the scenes.

Who was pulling NWA's strings?

 

[FeverPitch2]

Dont forget She Thangs too, OP

What is She Thangs?

 

[Finesse]

I put it more on Tupac. Breh went from fun party, semi-conscious rapper to glorifying the thug life. He had a higher profile than Dre and had to try and fit in with the LA Crips and Bloods gang culture. Then I think he started the east-west coast beef which was perplexing since he was born and raised in the east. And he had a Black Panther background so he should have been pushing unity.
Just my thoughts that can be corrected.

This


Death Row and Suge Knight is what brought the gang banging element to rap. shyt got so hot even Dr.Dre had to back up out the kitchen

 

[Stir Fry]

What is She Thangs?

 

[FeverPitch2]

@Stir Fry

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Dre and Snoop always said (even N.W.A. said this in interviews too, Eazy always said it) that they are showing you (meaning cacs) what's goin on out here.

 

[BulletProof]

Dre was doing his thing before the major labels bought into gangsta rap.

I wasn't blaming major labels.

I was blaming human appetites.

 

[MasterThought]

Who was pulling NWA's strings?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Listen to what Spice-1 says here. It's timestamped. shyt, watch the whole thing if u have 30 minutes

 

[FeverPitch2]

A 2 hour documentary???
Please timestamp that shyt.

 

[FeverPitch2]

Listen to what Spice-1 says here. It's timestamped. shyt, watch the whole thing if u have 30 minutes

Y'all really hate reading, huh?

 

[FeverPitch2]

I wasn't blaming major labels.

I was blaming human appetites.

The public never asked for gangsta rap.
Rap music was doing bang up business, both with and without major labels, before gangsta rap exploded.