Is Breaking Bad that good? I'm finding it boring
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ComputersPutin
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I dont think the show was slow, they usually ended the episodes off in a good place.
Where to start with this nonsense you posted.
First, you said I dont understand what the show is about. I get it 100%, they showing the events that lead a normal guy to become a very terrible and awful person. Sure ok w/e. My point is, the show is set in the real world. with real consequences for actions. You cannot just do whatever you want, when you want, and not expect some kind of result. However, Walt and Jesse do just that, all the time, and any time they are about to have there downfall they get saved by some fantastical fairy tale shyt. Hence why I linked the deus ex machina wiki. Show is just too unbelievable. What is the limit for reality, if Jesse and Walt got up and started flying in one episode or shot lasers out of there eyes, would that be questionable to you? It shouldnt be if you feel the show doesnt have to be based in reality.
The shows backdrop is the real world, with typical, regular people. I understand its for entertainment and people wanna see crazy situations, sure go ahead.Just dont expect me to take it seriously, halfwaythru season 2. I started each episode thinking to my self, what crazy shyt they gonna get into and how are they going to get out of it at the last miniute. But the show does not hold a candle to the greatness of the The Wire, or those other shows.
Breaking bad is an exercise in the formula of sucessful tv show. They are going to write and milk the show for as many episodes and seasons they can.They will grab as much money as they can, not giving a fukk about the show or trying to keep any integrity to the writing.
Somtimes a story can be told with a few episodes or a couple of seasons. But since its a regular network show, its gonna get dragged on until ppl stop caring and move onto something else.
You're sitting here acting like because you personally don't like the show that dictates how the rest of the world feels about it. "Eh, it's ok I guess....it could've been good" as if it's not already mentioned alongside "The Wire", "Sopranos", and any other GOAT contender. I don't begrudge you for disliking the show but your opinion isn't a popular one and it doesn't reflect reality.
And this shyt right here, I dont give a shyt what you think about my opinon, I never said or even implied that the rest of the world should care what I think. I only responded to the OP question, You was the once who was so incensed by what I wrote that you quoted to me to get a discussion going.
your opinion isn't a popular one and it doesn't reflect reality.
There once was a time when most of the world thought it was ok to rape,murder and enslave blacks. A few people had an unpopular opinon that they were people and should be treated the same as others. That opinon didnt reflect the the reality of the time either.
Breh, I'm honestly not trying to be an a$$hole but you don't know what the fukk you're talking about. The show was only ever meant to go 4-5 seasons tops. Vince Gilligan said that literally years ago, and unlike most people he actually stuck to it.
So
at "they're trying to milk the show for as many seasons as possible". No, they're trying to pull off this guy's transformation. Now that is just about done, so the show is ending.As far as the rest of that shyt you said it was a mix between
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Fred.
Thats all im saying, im not looking for this shyt to be true to life, fact based tv show. I can suspend disbelief to a certain point. If these dudes skate by a crazy situation once or twice, i wont blink an eye. But when these dudes do these crazy fantastical shyt they do on the tv, and walk away without getting got. I cant take no part it in, these no basis for reality. I cant watch and be like "ya man, that shyt could happen like that. If its ok to let these dudes do whatever crazy shyt they want with no basis in reality. Why not give them laser guns and let them fly? Why would that be any diffrent than the crazy otherwordly shyt that happens in the show all ready?
Dudes wanna bring up the fact the wire had more characters, that holds no weight. When you build up a main character, tell his story, and let nature take its course. You have a captivated audience.
BB just sticks to the formula to much for me to take it serious, its a hit show on basic cable. Just for that reason, the show has a set path and key elements that must remain to make the show strong and profitable.
O and fukk this fakkit @Mikey2Toes for negging me for stating my opinon on the show.
you emotional fakkit.
Ay, bruh, you got a shytty ass opinion. Was just makin sure you realized that shyt
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Breh, I'm honestly not trying to be an a$$hole but you don't know what the fukk you're talking about. The show was only ever meant to go 4-5 seasons tops. Vince Gilligan said that literally years ago, and unlike most people he actually stuck to it.
So
As far as the rest of that shyt you said it was a mix between
Fred.
Nah, thats the third time you response was "you dont understand what the show is going for" "its walts transformation"
all right son we got it, he changes into the bad guy, fukk we got it . My only point was the show was too far gone or beleiveable for ME my self to take seriously. I cant care for the show when I know these dudes are safe until the end of the show. As I said, Im not asking for a true to life, or pure realism. I just want some kind of constant reality or basis for the characters. Walt and Jesse have a blank check to do, and get away with ever they want. The other characters dont, its boring to me for that reason. I feel like im watching the power rangs fight the damn putty patrol. Walt and Jesse are playing the game with godmode and infinity bullets, while every one else goes down with one shot.
If thats the kind of mindless entertainment you find good, So be it. I think its an ok show to be fair, but its not the GOAT or even a contender for that reason alone.
All of your posts addressing me have not cleared up this issuse. You just keep parroting "you dont understand what they are going for" "slow transformation".
You the type of dude to put a song on in the car and tell people "listen to the lyrics,mannn" .
Ay, bruh, you got a shytty ass opinion. Was just makin sure you realized that shyt
Sounds like some shyt bytches on the rag would say. I see you still mad as fukk, emotional fucc boy.
I don't need to clear up anything for you, because the show is already solidified as either the GOAT, or at the very least a GOAT contender. You're like a guy that spent the last 30 years on a deserted island coming back to civilization and telling people his ideas on how to improve the internet. You're a little slow and a little late, to quote "The Wire".
I don't like the movie "Avatar". I think it's terrible and corny. I think the 3D was an expensive gimmick, and the movie was a waste of money and Cameron's time. However, I'm not gonna sit here and dumbly ask people to convince me it's good. It's a success by any measure of the word, I just happen not to like it. And I'm fine with that.
That's what you don't seem to get. I don't need to convince you this show is GOAT status. It has millions of fans....ignoring that, it's won 30+ awards and been nominated for 100+ more....ignoring that, it's currently sitting at 99% on Metacritic, a higher score than any paid cable show, since you seem fixated on it being on basic cable....ignoring that, the season 5 thread is the largest on this board, and one of the largest on the entire site, full of hundreds of people raving about how good it is. It's a success by any measure of the word.
So again, you disliking it means jack shyt. It's status is already solidified, regardless of whether or not you agree. If you dislike it continue to dislike it and KIM. Unless you invent a time machine and go kill Vince Gilligan 5 years ago there ain't much you can do at this point to derail history.
Fred.
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I enjoy this show alot, but TruStyle's criticisms are fair and I've said some of the same things over the years.
As far as it being goat, I've always thought the writing wasn't up there with other shows that confine themselves more to reality and depend on the complexity of symbolism & storytelling more than the over-the-top wow moments that you know BB uses to build suspense. I just think it's alot more difficult to do what shows like The Wire & Mad Men do writing wise and still be great & entertaining. It would be alot harder to tell Walt's story with great writing devoid of the cartoonish moments and still make the show as entertaining as it is. That's the separator as far as ranking the show alltime imo. Also I don't think the 1st 2 seasons are on the goat level quality wise. It's easily forgiven because we care more about what just happened than the past.
BB is great it's own right though and Vince can def write his ass off and build suspense. But to me, outside of the last season, Vince is great at writing a beginning & ending, but kind of stalls the story in the middle before getting to a great ending.
As far as it being goat, I've always thought the writing wasn't up there with other shows that confine themselves more to reality and depend on the complexity of symbolism & storytelling more than the over-the-top wow moments that you know BB uses to build suspense. I just think it's alot more difficult to do what shows like The Wire & Mad Men do writing wise and still be great & entertaining. It would be alot harder to tell Walt's story with great writing devoid of the cartoonish moments and still make the show as entertaining as it is. That's the separator as far as ranking the show alltime imo. Also I don't think the 1st 2 seasons are on the goat level quality wise. It's easily forgiven because we care more about what just happened than the past.
BB is great it's own right though and Vince can def write his ass off and build suspense. But to me, outside of the last season, Vince is great at writing a beginning & ending, but kind of stalls the story in the middle before getting to a great ending.
The slowness of the first couple of seasons prevent it from being on the same tier as the Wire, Sopranos etc...but the last couple of seasons are some of the best in tv history and has made it catch up a bit to those classic shows.
All that typing and still avoiding my obvious point. Its clear you cant defend it. Get along little boy. Im not asking you to tell me why its good, im explaining why its not GOAT. Since you wont take it from me, this guy is saying the same thing I am.
You have nothing to say to these points though. Keep going with your personal attacks though.
Here's the thing. 90% of "The Wire"'s chracters and/or events are real. Everyone from Jay Landsman to Avon is based on someone real....everything from Omar jumping out the window to the cops using a copy machine as a lie detector is real.
So, IMO, it's harder to create something completely from scratch than it is to just use people, places, and events that already exist. And that's not a knock against "The Wire", I just don't believe in awarding points based on realism because they didn't really have to create much of anything. The show is real because it's actually real.
Likewise I can't arbitrarily award points to "BB" based on them creating every character on the show and devising these insane schemes like the train heist. Neither is a plus or a minus in my book.
Fred.
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I'd counter that, although those people & things were real, writing it in a way that's compelling, dramatic, complex & entertaining is still a feat. It being real doesn't mean that it will make for great television. Also the story itself was still fiction and the outcomes were created by the writers.
If you're writing a TV show, it seems like it'd be a lot easier to write a mundane scene like Bodie and McNulty sitting in a diner, or Draper going to a business meeting, than it would be to plot out a season long story arc about how a girl overdosing will eventually lead to a pink teddy bear falling out of the sky....and actually have it all be coherent and make sense.
I doubt we'll see eye to eye. I'm just explaining why realism isn't a plus or minus to me. Rod Sterling is considered one of the GOAT TV writers, does it really matter if "The Twilight Zone" wasn't realistic? What about "Game of Thrones" or "X-Files"?
Fred.
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Those shows stay true to their worlds & environments. BB crossed over that bridge at some point.
Nothing difficult about writing that story tidbit about the teddy bear falling out of the sky. They justed introduced a piece of the ending at the beginning of the season. Only the audience is in the blind about the meaning and are wowed by the revelation later. The story itself was fine though. But how are you comparing a single scene to a whole season story arc?