Is an all PC future best for gamers or nah?

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I know it’s hard but TRY to not just think about yourself. People were afraid to go all digital just one Gen ago and now we know all digital is the near future :merchant:

When we do officially go all digital, you can argue we will essentially be an all PC platform by default, The cloud is a PC x1,000,000,000,000——>

The cloud WILL BE more powerful than the most powerful PCs in the future. We’ll be in games, in the Metaverse/etc. But before we got THAT far, will going full PC be a positive or negative? I guess I’m asking how can that be a positive? Not saying it can’t, just how is it??? The argument about sales is not true because console games are heavily discounted all the time if not straight up free (with gold of course)
 

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No cause people will want simplicity and PC, while my preferred platform, is not going to give people that plug-n-play experience they'll want.
Most modern CPU and GPU can run most modern games. And they most have controller support. This is an outdated argument.
 

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No cause people will want simplicity and PC, while my preferred platform, is not going to give people that plug-n-play experience they'll want.
The cloud is just a console on Xbox but can be upgraded whenever to whatever. Including a 3090. Amazon, Facebook will go that route if Microsoft doesn’t do it first, eventually it won’t even matter because you won’t need anything physical to play other than the controller you’re using and even that will be a thing of the past in the not too distant future.

But without going too far into the future, I guess you can say there will be a bait and switch. From console to PC to whatever the cloud grows into. I’m sure the government has access to other shyt, possibly from other worlds. Sounds crazy, but it isn’t…
 

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Most modern CPU and GPU can run most modern games. And they most have controller support. This is an outdated argument.

I'm saying people aren't gonna want to deal with the troubles that comes with PC gaming. People want to plug in power supply, plug in HDMI, grab a controller and go. nikkas don't want to deal with driver issues, optimization issues, etc. No matter how you slice it, if PC is the future, there has to be a level of simplifying things for the console players that don't want to deal with a PC, especially if things start to go wrong. Things have gotten much easier in the last decade, sure, but console players will still say its not enough compared to the experience they've experienced pretty much their whole lives.

I'm a huge advocate for PC gaming, but let's be real, console nikkas don't want or care for that.

The cloud is just a console on Xbox but can be upgraded whenever to whatever. Including a 3090. Amazon, Facebook will go that route if Microsoft doesn’t do it first, eventually it won’t even matter because you won’t need anything physical to play other than the controller you’re using and even that will be a thing of the past in the not too distant future.

But without going too far into the future, I guess you can say there will be a bait and switch. From console to PC to whatever the cloud grows into. I’m sure the government has access to other shyt, possibly from other worlds. Sounds crazy, but it isn’t…

Be interesting to see, but do you think console players are gonna go from console to whatever were to come next if the hardware changed/disappeared? There are still people very adamant about buying disc.
 
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No cause people will want simplicity and PC, while my preferred platform, is not going to give people that plug-n-play experience they'll want.

What isn't plug and play about PC?

The consoles are PCs they gotta download updates you have to install the games before you play, lmao what is wrong with yall
consoles are just less powerful PCs, that's it

Most PC gamers today were former console gamers, real gamers only care about performance none of that other shyt
 
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I'm saying people aren't gonna want to deal with the troubles that comes with PC gaming. People want to plug in power supply, plug in HDMI, grab a controller and go. nikkas don't want to deal with driver issues, optimization issues, etc. No matter how you slice it, if PC is the future, there has to be a level of simplifying things for the console players that don't want to deal with a PC, especially if things start to go wrong. Things have gotten much easier in the last decade, sure, but console players will still say its not enough compared to the experience they've experienced pretty much their whole lives.

I'm a huge advocate for PC gaming, but let's be real, console nikkas don't want or care for that.



Be interesting to see, but do you think console players are gonna go from console to whatever were to come next if the hardware changed/disappeared? There are still people very adamant about buying disc.

Most PC gamers were console gamers

what driver issues, this isn't 2007, driver's automatically download

most games are optimized especially newer ones, and if they develope games fo PC first they won't have any of those problems and the games will run better and look better than they do now

Also Consoles aren't profitable, all the money is made from software

microsoft and sony lose money on every console sold just to meet the target price for the consumer

but now games are getting more demanding and need more power, 500 dollars ain't be able to be meet if you people want to keep pushing the envelope of games today
 
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No cause people will want simplicity and PC, while my preferred platform, is not going to give people that plug-n-play experience they'll want.
Why not :ohhh: im curious :ohhh: cause every game I load up, the settings are automatically set :ohhh:is your PC different then everyone else PC and not do this? :ohhh:
 

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I'm saying people aren't gonna want to deal with the troubles that comes with PC gaming. People want to plug in power supply, plug in HDMI, grab a controller and go. nikkas don't want to deal with driver issues, optimization issues, etc. No matter how you slice it, if PC is the future, there has to be a level of simplifying things for the console players that don't want to deal with a PC, especially if things start to go wrong. Things have gotten much easier in the last decade, sure, but console players will still say its not enough compared to the experience they've experienced pretty much their whole lives.

I'm a huge advocate for PC gaming, but let's be real, console nikkas don't want or care for that.



Be interesting to see, but do you think console players are gonna go from console to whatever were to come next if the hardware changed/disappeared? There are still people very adamant about buying disc.
I havnt had driver or optimization issues in near 20 years :ohhh: stop looking at porn on your PC :manny:


Whats the difference between a driver update, and turning on your console saying it needs to be updated ?
 

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Essentially its the future for consoles....they have to be modular, especially with game sizes being what they are. The real fukkery is paying all that money for a console with less than a 1TB of memory. At some point they need to make the downloading of language packs optional ala FF remake. Sound files are either the worst compressed or not compressed at all. Turning 40gb games into 50+. They also need to let go of using mega textures...its cool, looking at giant monuments in the distance that you'll never go to, but I rather they work on the little details....games having no reflections in this era, is a slap in the face to the gamers.

Then there's the overheating issue. They need to just give up on trying to make the console look sleek, and focus on the tower builds, one big fan for hours of gameplay isn't going to cut it. All developers have to start working with Noctua and develop fans for consoles in the future, there's definitely a glaring problem when systems of today, are still dealing with the same issues of 10 years ago. And finally, controllers need to stop being gimmicks, you're paying more for a feature no one uses or talks about much, I rather the controllers having longer battery lives than anything else.
 

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Why not :ohhh: im curious :ohhh: cause every game I load up, the settings are automatically set :ohhh:is your PC different then everyone else PC and not do this? :ohhh:
I feel like the simplicity is more so if you are going to acquire a console vs pc. Going out and buying a console is cheaper and easier for the average fan then building a PC.

Obviously once you build your pc getting consoles seems not to make sense since you can get play every game either natively or through emulation. (Well you can’t emulate PS4 iirc, but majority of those exclusives are getting ported so that isn’t a big deal all things considered. )

At least the switch has the appeal of being portable.
 
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I feel like the simplicity is more so if you are going to acquire a console vs pc. Going out and buying a console is cheaper and easier for the average fan then building a PC.

Obviously once you build your pc getting consoles seems not to make sense since you can get play every game either natively or through emulation. (Well you can’t emulate PS4 iirc, but majority of those exclusives are getting ported so that isn’t a big deal all things considered. )

At least the switch has the appeal of being portable.

It's only cheaper because the companies sell them at a lost

and games are only going to get more demanding, they can't even get a console version of cyberpunk running right, its only going to get worst from here

PS5 can't even use HDMI 2.1 features, when they have been enjoyed on PC for two years now, two years from now its probably gonna be another HDMI update with better HDR that automatically simulates the frame rate of your native refresh rate even if your machine isn't powerful enough to get those frames
 
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