Irv Gotti and Fat Joe regret siding with Nas against Jay Z

[Alvin]

“I won’t rest til u on one knee”

All Hov “enemies” eventually bow down to him. And here is why


Hov don’t do shyt to any of these niqqas and bytches

Not one motherfukker had a legitimate reason to go at him at all

cam did, jay was looking like a hater

 

[Cladyclad]

cam did, jay was looking like a hater

Explain?

Because from my understanding Jay treated him just like the rest of his art*tsts.

 

[Tim Lord]

It’s obvious I'm a Nas fan as evidenced by my screen name.

But all Joe was saying was that he wanted a heads up or a one-to-one from Nas when the whole deading Jay Z beef was happening.

Joe was standing by his side during the height of the beef and Nas had no problem calling him to be in the video and all that. But when it came time to squash it, there was never a heads up or an explanation given. Lets not act like this was some little beef. This was Nas vs Jay Z. It was a line drawn in the sand in NY Jay Z or Nas.

So, I can understand Joe feeling a way about this. I remember back then he nade some slick comments in a magazine or something. He was probably salty about it. Publicly, his relationship with Nas wasnt repaired. Can someone show me a video or a picture of them together post 2005?

50 Cent had a similar problem with Nas too. The whole J-Lo song. Sony took 50 off and put Nas on the record. 50 says he didnt have a problem with that, but he took issue with Nas not letting him know what was happening beforehand.

At the time, these guys all thought they were friends with Nas but he didn’t treat them that way.

What they failed to realize is that Nas does this to all his friends. Remember The Firm and Cormega? Or Lakey the Kid and meetings with Don Ienner?

 

[ThirdAct]

First off, bringing up Nas relationships with 50, Mega and Lake is irrelevant. If you wanna bring that old shyt up, then you gotta bring up how Joe got beef with dudes that used to be in TS like Cuban Linx and Tony Sunshine. Also relationships that also went bad due to industry bullshyt. Nas squashed his beefs with both 50 and Mega, but Joe still beefing with Cuban. And BTW, Nas gave all these dudes shots when they were just starting - took 50 on tour, put Mega on IWW and Lake on God's Son. And the funny thing with 50 and Mega is they ended up getting taken off projects that would have hurt their street credibility anyway. The Firm and a fukkin' J. Lo song - neither big losses for them.

End of the day, Nas doesn't owe Fat Joe shyt and squashing the beef with Hov has nothing to do with Fat Joe. Fat Joe is just a petty snake. It's 2018 and he's whining in interviews about taking the wrong side in a battle from 17 years ago. Motherfukker is a cornball.

And if Joe was really riding with Nas like that, he would have gave him the OK to talk about how Pun hit Jay with the liquor bottle on Ether. He didn't, though. Told him to take it out the song. Nas didn't have to get Joe's approval either, he coulda just kept it in the song. He checked with dude cuz he thought it was the right thing to do. Now Joe feels like he was abandoned? That fat bastid needs to get the fukk outta here with that bullshyt!

 

[spliz]

First off, bringing up Nas relationships with 50, Mega and Lake is irrelevant. If you wanna bring that old shyt up, then you gotta bring up how Joe got beef with dudes that used to be in TS like Cuban Linx and Tony Sunshine. Also relationships that also went bad due to industry bullshyt. Nas squashed his beefs with both 50 and Mega, but Joe still beefing with Cuban. And BTW, Nas gave all these dudes shots when they were just starting - took 50 on tour, put Mega on IWW and Lake on God's Son. And the funny thing with 50 and Mega is they ended up getting taken off projects that would have hurt their street credibility anyway. The Firm and a fukkin' J. Lo song - neither big losses for them.

End of the day, Nas doesn't owe Fat Joe shyt and squashing the beef with Hov has nothing to do with Fat Joe. Fat Joe is just a petty snake. It's 2018 and he's whining in interviews about taking the wrong side in a battle from 17 years ago. Motherfukker is a cornball.

And if Joe was really riding with Nas like that, he would have gave him the OK to talk about how Pun hit Jay with the liquor bottle on Ether. He didn't, though. Told him to take it out the song. Nas didn't have to get Joe's approval either, he coulda just kept it in the song. He checked with dude cuz he thought it was the right thing to do. Now Joe feels like he was abandoned? That fat bastid needs to get the fukk outta here with that bullshyt!

Damn. Took all the words out my mouth. Good post. Dude who posted above u is buggin. Nas a grown ass man he aint gotta check wit Fat Joe for shyt. Especially considering he squashed the beef 5 years after the fact and Fat Joe had his OWN issues wit Jay before Nas did.

 

[DontEemTry]

The difference between Nas, Fat Joe and Irv is that Nas does not need Jayz to make money. Nas has very intelligent friends and business partners of his own. Nas has his own management company, Emagen Entertainment Group, Nas has his own media company, MassAppeal that he produces content for Netflix, TNT & PBS. Nas has plenty of status in the industry and makes millions doing what he loves without d*ck riding anyone else in order to do so. Nas is about loyalty over money and that's why Nas & his team is tight and very rich.

This is a dope pic

 

[Pop123]

It’s obvious I'm a Nas fan as evidenced by my screen name.

But all Joe was saying was that he wanted a heads up or a one-to-one from Nas when the whole deading Jay Z beef was happening.

Joe was standing by his side during the height of the beef and Nas had no problem calling him to be in the video and all that. But when it came time to squash it, there was never a heads up or an explanation given. Lets not act like this was some little beef. This was Nas vs Jay Z. It was a line drawn in the sand in NY Jay Z or Nas.

So, I can understand Joe feeling a way about this. I remember back then he nade some slick comments in a magazine or something. He was probably salty about it. Publicly, his relationship with Nas wasnt repaired. Can someone show me a video or a picture of them together post 2005?

50 Cent had a similar problem with Nas too. The whole J-Lo song. Sony took 50 off and put Nas on the record. 50 says he didnt have a problem with that, but he took issue with Nas not letting him know what was happening beforehand.

At the time, these guys all thought they were friends with Nas but he didn’t treat them that way.

What they failed to realize is that Nas does this to all his friends. Remember The Firm and Cormega? Or Lakey the Kid and meetings with Don Ienner?

You sound crazy as hell, you sound crazier than Fat Joe. It was a rap battle, lol, relax.

 

[DontEemTry]

nikkas really live their lives through these rappers. None of these nikkas even know who you are, never mind give a fukk.

 

[TheJet]

"I will tell you about this one time...because I feel I fukked up..but don't ever ask about my business again" -Jay to Ja on the 2way

and I saw Jay on the Sprite Remix tour in 2002

Who else was on it?

 

[Taadow]

Irv I can understand....him and jay go way back. Nas never knew Irv like that. Fat Joe though? this dude is/was a bonafied jayz hater/nas stan but has been salty as fuk because Nas/Jay squashed their beef while he was still hating on Jay. See, nas never hated Jay like Fat Joe did so it was easy for him (nas) to squash but he (fat joe) caught feelings because he was a nas stan, so he took it hard that they made up and now he's riding jay and even 50cent on suspect shyt

thread shoulda ended here

 

[IllmaticDelta]

It’s obvious I'm a Nas fan as evidenced by my screen name.

But all Joe was saying was that he wanted a heads up or a one-to-one from Nas when the whole deading Jay Z beef was happening.

Joe was standing by his side during the height of the beef and Nas had no problem calling him to be in the video and all that. But when it came time to squash it, there was never a heads up or an explanation given. Lets not act like this was some little beef. This was Nas vs Jay Z. It was a line drawn in the sand in NY Jay Z or Nas.

So, I can understand Joe feeling a way about this. I remember back then he nade some slick comments in a magazine or something. He was probably salty about it. Publicly, his relationship with Nas wasnt repaired. Can someone show me a video or a picture of them together post 2005?

50 Cent had a similar problem with Nas too. The whole J-Lo song. Sony took 50 off and put Nas on the record. 50 says he didnt have a problem with that, but he took issue with Nas not letting him know what was happening beforehand.

At the time, these guys all thought they were friends with Nas but he didn’t treat them that way.

What they failed to realize is that Nas does this to all his friends. Remember The Firm and Cormega? Or Lakey the Kid and meetings with Don Ienner?

the fat joe/nas dynamic was totally different from those other 3

 

[Yaddam Yussein]

Pretty sure Irv was playing both sides. He would run to Nas about how Jay was dissing him, then run back to Jay about Nas dissing him.

It was either Bleek or Dame that confirmed this in a interview.

 

[Big Boss]

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

The difference between Nas, Fat Joe and Irv is that Nas does not need Jayz to make money. Nas has very intelligent friends and business partners of his own. Nas has his own management company, Emagen Entertainment Group, Nas has his own media company, MassAppeal that he produces content for Netflix, TNT & PBS. Nas has plenty of status in the industry and makes millions doing what he loves without d*ck riding anyone else in order to do so. Nas is about loyalty over money and that's why Nas & his team is tight and very rich.

That's cause he already got helped by the hands of Hov. Let's not pretend he didnt have to go work under hov after hov played with his BM and left condoms on the baby seat. So although he's up now,he was down and hov helped.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Yes it is. Here’s how it went

Jay was depressed when he heard Ether. Irv was saying that everywhere they went for days out in public nikkas was passing by in cars yelling “fukk JAY-Z!” At him.

So Irv gassed Jay to make Supa-Ugly to
Get him out of his funk. He told him which beats to use and was there in the studio with him while he decided it.

Later on Irv felt like Jay was trying to play him because he was trying to get Hov and Ja on Tour together and Jay was being non-commital. Then Jay goes out on tour with some other acts and wouldn’t answer his phone calls. So Irv was like “fukk it” and reached out to Nas to try to get him on Murda Inc.

Steve Stoute said that Nas was VERY close to signing to Murda Inc but Irv was too wild and too loud and turned Nas off with his attitude.

On the subject of Fat Joe. Nas didn’t need Fat Joe to help him against Jay-Z. I’m sure his support HELPED but it wasn’t needed. Nas didn’t recruit none of these nikkas to diss Jay. He handled Jay HIMSELF. Nas took on Jay, the entire Roc, AND Dip Set dolo (with a little assistance from The Bravehearts) Fat Joe was in the Made You Look Video AFTER the fact. Irv was trying to recruit Nas to the Inc AFTER the fact. These people want to insert themselves into the narrative like they were there in the thick of it when most of their so called support happened AFTER the fact.

This whole “You owed me a phone call” shyt is bullshyt. NAS battled HOV. Not Nas & Terror Squad. Therefore if Nas wants to make peace with Jay, then that is 100% his decision. Nas got Ten Million Dollars from Def Jam because he was an artist whose eight previous albums had gone Platinum. Not because Fat Joe was with him in the studio writing lyrics. Nas has Mass Appeal, Queens Bridge Ventures, Sweet Chick, and 12AM Run because he invested wisely alongside Anthony Selah. Not because Fat Joe is his accountant.

Fat Joe need to sit down somewhere and be Humble

Wrong,if fat joe is telling the truth about Nas calling him on some "stand close to me i'm about to war with this nikka",then yes Joe is worthy and deserving of a call on the end of that beef.