Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth

[Vonte3000]

This is some dumb shyt, would you really want to still have separate bathrooms.

Where the fukk does it say shyt about a fukkin bathroom?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I already posted the statistics in this thread go find them, everything for what I said is in my OP and in the video

Did you go through this post at all? A guy said the exact same thing and I posted somehting 3 separate times to answer him

I'm on my phoneSo all I saw was the OP

Do you have a link showing our share of wealth declined after integration and showing the direct link between integration to that decline

 

[Vonte3000]

I'm on my phoneSo all I saw was the OP

Do you have a link showing our share of wealth declined after integration and showing the direct link between integration to that decline

no way you read the OP the national humanities center article has that info, and yes there's more statistics in the thread I posted

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Did you even fukking READ the OP?!?? I'm positive most of you didn't read shyt. I'm gonna have to fukkin spell out the articles and video points in my first point for you people

I hate to use the C word (and no Im not talking about "punt"), but if that phraseology were ever appropriate, one could apply it to your argument, and the arguments you used to support your idea. At very best you are being offensive and insensitive to the conditions faced by those pressed under segregation, and you're powered by transduction type childish reasoning. Ill get to why its a c word argument in a bit..

For one, the idea that "integration" harmed blacks is lazy and inappropriate. You're trying to create a one-dimensional correlation between integration and black prosperity that even you yourself wont commit to as a theory. You acknowledge that blacks, as an aggregate, are more economically successful than during segregation, so there goes that argument. As we are well aware the black poverty rate was roughly double what it is now, and its critically high now so that gives us an idea of the economic conditions of black people of the time that doesn't support this supposed runaway success blacks experienced during segregation.

You seem to settle on this theory of black unity --- that black people were so much more cohesive, economically and otherwise, back then and not so much now. But remember, you have to stay true to your idea, which is in essence pro-segregation. Well, blacks lived in a perpetual state of terrorism, where they were stateless and decidedly second class with either marginalized or zero access to crucial institutions like health care, justice, etc. So your theory rests on this conclusion that blacks can only prosper under de jure segregation and all the inhumanity and psychological terror it implied. This is where your other argument of comparing us to the supposed unity of other ethnic communities falls apart. They didn't need legally enforced segregation to accomplish "community" objectives.

This is where the C word comes in to play. Pro segregation arguments are consciously or unconsciously motivated by negative racial attitudes about blacks, and its a slight of hand attempt to smuggle in white supremacist thoughts: " you nikkers were more well behaved and prosperous when we had you under control via our brand of vicious, tyrannical control, but once the federal govt. stepped in and gave you nikkers your freedom and welfare all hell broke loose, and y'all cant figure out how to act"

Racism simply graduated to more institutionalized approaches like drug laws and a corresponding prison industrial complex designed to attack black households, which all developed post civil rights in addition to the standard housing and employment discrimination which have always been features of this country. Instead of making specific and disciplined arguments, you offer an indefensible and immoral pro-segregation position. Please take your thoughts seriously before you post further....

 

[Vonte3000]

I hate to use the C word (and no Im not talking about "punt"), but if that phraseology were ever appropriate, one could apply it to your argument, and the arguments you used to support your idea. At very best you are being offensive and insensitive to the conditions faced by those pressed under segregation, and you're powered by transduction type childish reasoning. Ill get to why its a c word argument in a bit..

For one, the idea that "integration" harmed blacks is lazy and inappropriate. You're trying to create a one-dimensional correlation between integration and black prosperity that even you yourself wont commit to as a theory. You acknowledge that blacks, as an aggregate, are more economically successful than during segregation, so there goes that argument. As we are well aware the black poverty rate was roughly double what it is now, and its critically high now so that gives us an idea of the economic conditions of black people of the time that doesn't support this supposed runaway success blacks experienced during segregation.

You seem to settle on this theory of black unity --- that black people were so much more cohesive back then and its not so much now. But remember, you have to stay true to your idea, which is in essence pro-segregation. Well, blacks lived in a perpetual state of terrorism, where they were stateless and decidedly second class with either marginalized or zero access to crucial institutions like health care, justice, etc. So your theory rests on this conclusion that blacks can only prosper under de jure segregation and all the inhumanity and psychological terror it implied. This is where your other argument of comparing us to the supposed unity of other ethnic communities falls apart. They didn't need legally enforced segregation to accomplish "community" objectives.

This is where the C word comes in to play. Pro segregation arguments are consciously or unconsciously motivated by negative racial attitudes about blacks, and its a slight of hand attempt to smuggle in white supremacist thoughts: " you nikkers were more well behaved and prosperous when we had you under control via our brand of vicious, tyrannical control, but once the federal govt. stepped in and gave you nikkers your freedom and welfare all hell broke loose, and y'all cant figure out how to act"

Racism simply graduated to more institutionalized approaches like drug laws and a corresponding prison industrial complex designed to attack black households, which all developed post civil rights in addition to the standard housing, and employment discrimination which have always been features of this country. Instead of making specific and disciplined arguments, you offer an indefensible and immoral pro-segregation position. Please take your thoughts seriously before you post further....

I'm going to stop you there, I said it so many times I'm seriously frustrated. If you think my argument is we had it better in segregation then you need to read my post because that just tells me you read the title skimmed my articles statements and videos and assumed something. If you're not going to read all of it just don't reply....I don't know what to tell you people all the info I need is in my OP I edited everything into there. That guy I was arguing with didn't read any of it and I gave him the info he asked for

 

[No_bammer_weed]

I'm going to stop you there, I said it so many times I'm seriously frustrated. If you think my argument is we had it better in segregation then you need to read my post because that just tells me you read the title skimmed my articles statements and videos and assumed something. If you're not going to read all of it just don't reply....I don't know what to tell you people all the info I need is in my OP I edited everything into there. That guy I was arguing with didn't read any of it and I gave him the info he asked for

You're flailing away now...your title was that "integration" harmed black people. There is logical inference with that argument; not to mention its a horrible one that makes no sense in any respect (we still experience high levels of segregation, there have been developments of the economy racial and otherwise, and a concentration of wealth that has harmed those on the lowest end of the economic strata, blacks have improved in most metrics, etc, etc, etc...). If you want to investigate the problems blacks have encountered post-civil rights, its a welcomed discussion. Implicating integration as some sort of root cause is offensive, and shows you're not interested in doing the homework to smartly pinpoint casual factors, and would rather opt to let others, the least of which white supremacists, do your thinking for you.

 

[LordTaskForce]

Defensive?

You offer nothing but the same old tired excuse which has led us here in the first place.
Beating your chest and screaming 'white done wronged me' won't change anything.

The Black community has to take charge. it seems to me every other race is passing us by in America but you refuse to address that.

Tired of the bullshyt excuses

Are you talking about me personally? I don't think I've spoken on the subject, friend. Your thoughts are confusing and seem more like incoherent ramblings. Let me ask you this, what are you doing to try to help the community that you live in?

 

[Vonte3000]

You're flailing away now...your title was that "integration" harmed black people. There is logical inference with that argument; not to mention its a horrible one that makes no sense in any respect (we still experience high levels of segregation, and there are developments of the economy racial and otherwise, and a concentration of wealth that has harmed those on the lowest end of the economic strata, blacks have improved in most metrics, etc, etc, etc...). If you want to investigate the problems blacks have encountered post-civil rights, its a welcomed discussion. Implicating integration as some sort of root cause is offensive, and shows you're not interested in doing the homework to smartly pinpoint casual factors, and would rather opt to let others, the least of which white supremacists, do your thinking for you.

My title was
Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth

That means exactly what is says more HARM than GOOD and I stand by that and give my reasons in my OP

I know it's long but that's why I put it in HL and not TLR I expected people to take the time to read it alla nd watch the video didn't think it would get past 2 pages like my usual HL posts

It makes sense if you just do what I ask and read my info...

You have to be joking

"White supremacist"

It was the black guy's speeches in the fukking video I saw last week that got me interested in this entire subject

Where did white supremacist come from

Now I know you didn't pay attention to my OP

 

[Chris.B]

Are you talking about me personally? I don't think I've spoken on the subject, friend. Your thoughts are confusing and seem more like incoherent ramblings. Let me ask you this, what are you doing to try to help the community that you live in?

I teach Sunday school sometimes at a black church.

 

[Master Teacher]

The stats clearly show blacks are the ones refusing to hold their end of the bargain.
How many scholarships and grant programs are there for smart minorities?
Companies are forced to hire minorities as well...Most black people in America are anti-intellectual/academia.

Everyone is looking to be a baller or a rapper. Education is secondary.
The nerdy black kid is made fun of and the thug who just got out of jail is celebrated.

There is your problem. Unless the underlined issue is addressed the demise will keep on accelerating.

Please list the names of this grant programs, because I'm pretty sure most black don't know they exist

 

[Master Teacher]

This is exactly what Dr. Claude Anderson has been talking about for years and nikkaz still don't get it

I'm moving to Africa in a few years, I'm done with Americans, nikkaz here are weak cowards and are servants of my enemy, they can rot in the fema caps

Anybody with common sense can see integration was a bait and switch move to make the black's in america the underclass forever

in Detroit there's only ONE black owned Gas Station on Greenfield and 8 mile, and it's owned by some Africans not even black americans

How did blacks own more shyt when they had less freedom, than they do when they are supposedly free

because they never stopped oppressing us they just changed the tactics, and like always they use c00ns to do this to get rest of the community to fall in line

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

I just read this again. You should get worst poster of the year off one post alone. #HLWPOY2014.

Would you shut up. Its a legitimate question. Try not to take everything so personal.

 

[Vonte3000]

This is exactly what Dr. Claude Anderson has been talking about for years and nikkaz still don't get it

I'm moving to Africa in a few years, I'm done with Americans, nikkaz here are weak cowards and are servants of my enemy, they can rot in the fema caps

Anybody with common sense can see integration was a bait and switch move to make the black's in america the underclass forever

in Detroit there's only ONE black owned Gas Station on Greenfield and 8 mile, and it's owned by some Africans not even black americans

How did blacks own more shyt when they had less freedom, than they do when they are supposedly free

because they never stopped oppressing us they just changed the tactics, and like always they use c00ns to do this to get rest of the community to fall in line

Yeah he's been telling people this for years but they won't listen. The video I put in the OP was enough to get me to do the research, I even spelled everything out for everybody with the articles and then they have the nerve to not only not read it but attack my opinion all while ignoring the data

It's killing me right now, how can you argue someone's point without even hearing their argument?

It's grown men too, I thought this was "Higher Learning"

nikkas is lost and won't look outside that short sighted box

 

[Vonte3000]

You're flailing away now...your title was that "integration" harmed black people. There is logical inference with that argument; not to mention its a horrible one that makes no sense in any respect (we still experience high levels of segregation, there have been developments of the economy racial and otherwise, and a concentration of wealth that has harmed those on the lowest end of the economic strata, blacks have improved in most metrics, etc, etc, etc...). If you want to investigate the problems blacks have encountered post-civil rights, its a welcomed discussion. Implicating integration as some sort of root cause is offensive, and shows you're not interested in doing the homework to smartly pinpoint casual factors, and would rather opt to let others, the least of which white supremacists, do your thinking for you.

Also I don't get how I'm flailing when I'm sticking by what I've been saying

 

[Master Teacher]

Yeah he's been telling people this for years but they won't listen. The video I put in the OP was enough to get me to do the research, I even spelled everything out for everybody with the articles and then they have the nerve to not only not read it but attack my opinion all while ignoring the data

It's killing me right now, how can you argue someone's point without even hearing their argument?

It's grown men too, I thought this was "Higher Learning"

nikkas is lost and won't look outside that short sighted box

They not lost they just don't want to acknowledge the truth

when they finally create cosetic surgery where you can change your race all these nikkaz rob a bank to get a chance to finally be white