Inflation Reduction Act: 8/12/22 - $740B Bill PASSES, Biden signs it into law!

[Worthless Loser]

You mean like the voters in Georgia, who came out in record numbers to elect Biden and two Democratic Senators to give Dems control of the chamber?

And what have they been rewarded with?

A watered down stimulus bill
No minimum wage increase
No protections for their voting rights
No police reform

And you have the audacity to tell those voters, "Oh well. Just vote harder next time. " And then you wonder why people get checked out of politics.

Well, you could have Senate majority leader McConnell and none of this would happen.

Manchin was right when he told people if you want more liberal policy, vote for more liberals because he's not a liberal.

Its simple. Manchin can easily tell all the dems to go fukk themselves and sink the whole thing. The party would crumble and nothing would happen to him. He's untouchable. His voter base is dumb uneducated Trump trash who wants him to stick his middle finger up at Dems.

Compromise was always going to happen.

As far as no police reform, no fillbuster change to pass voting rights, and other issues, people should have seen that coming too.

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

From $6T to $3.5T to $2T.

President manchin strikes again

Manchin and KS are the corporate poster clowns but those god damn corporate dems are really going hard for their donations. SMH if only they matched that energy to helping middle class

And this bill fukking sucks. A compromise on top of a another compromise on top of another compromised shyt bill.

Make it 500 billion and move on to the water down voting rights bill for fukk sakes

 

[nyknick]

Excluding free community college is a major mistake. You already have young men of all races dropping out of college in record numbers and abandoning higher education. College isn’t for everyone but you still need college to get high paying jobs. And many of the reasons why a lot of men are leaving college is because it’s so damn expensive. Free community college would be a start to attract these men back into higher education. There was studies that showed men who aren’t in college are less likely to marry, rise up the economic ladder etc. This will be a major long term problem because as we seen with Trumpism it caters to men who aren’t college educated. So in the long run if the majority of men are not college educated they will be attracted to fascism and far right bullshyt. When a man is broke, has no p*ssy he is more prone to radicalism. We have seen this time and time again in the Mideast. White boys are getting more and more radical as the years go on. First it was the Tea Party, then the alt-right, then MAGA, then Blue Lives Matter, to then Qanon and now anti vax/anti mask mandates. Rising anti-intellectualism is gonna be a problem for this country’s stability in the long term.

It's mind boggling

Colleges are democrat voter factories, they're to democratic party what churches are to republicans. It's really frustrating.

 

[nyknick]

You mean like the voters in Georgia, who came out in record numbers to elect Biden and two Democratic Senators to give Dems control of the chamber?

And what have they been rewarded with?

A watered down stimulus bill
No minimum wage increase
No protections for their voting rights
No police reform

And you have the audacity to tell those voters, "Oh well. Just vote harder next time. " And then you wonder why people get checked out of politics.

Instead of complaining all you need to do is organize, canvass, energize disappointed voter base and fight through voter restrictions without any party support.

Do all of that to elect 4 more Democrats like Manchin and Sinema, and even if you accomplish that we'll still be one vote short because three centrist democrats will step out from behind Manchin and SInema to sink any bill that could make significant impact on people's lives and improve party's chance of winning

 

[ZoeGod]

The biggest issue with the whole vote more liberals is that the other side is making it harder to vote in swing and red states. The other side is cheating. Add the fact they use gerrymandering to cheat so they can win back the house. Dems need to run on a policy of uncapping the House because it’s needed to reform the whole system. Because the right is setting up in place a Hungarian/Poland like right wing authoritarian state where they control the courts, state legislatures, and 3 branches. It’s so fukking disheartening that with the record turnout we had last year that the GQP still made gains in state legislatures. Margins matter. When you add voter suppression plus less voter enthusiasm it equals a bloodbath. I always said Biden is making the strategic mistake of saying the way to beat voter suppression is to raise voter turnout even higher. Well the issue is will these voters be motivated if the shyt you promised in 2020 don’t get passed?

 

[voltronblack]

Democrats abandon free community college as White House warns social safety net bill will shrink below $2T

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden told progressive lawmakers Tuesday that the final social spending bill is expected to drop tuition-free community college and curtail the child tax credit program, two sources familiar with the meeting said.

The sources said the popular child tax credit is likely to be extended for an additional year. Many Democrats had pushed the proposals to reduce poverty and remove financial barriers to higher education and vocational training.

Biden and Democratic congressional leaders are working feverishly to reach a deal. But the talks remain fluid as the party works to narrow the bill to a version that can become law.

Another big priority — a sweeping climate measure known as the Clean Energy Performance Program — is also likely to be curtailed in the spending bill. However, congressional sources said Tuesday that while the climate proposals will be scaled back, there will be a focus on clean renewable energy. Two sources familiar with the negotiations also said lawmakers are considering shortening paid leave in the bill, potentially from 12 weeks to four.

Earlier Tuesday, Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said her members had a "really good, productive meeting" with Biden, who is working on the bill with moderates and progressives.

"I think we all still feel even more optimistic about getting to an agreement on a really transformational bill that will fundamentally lift people up," she told reporters.

Rep. Jared Huffman, D-Calif., who was also in the meeting, told reporters that Biden said the only reason a climate program is not in the bill is opposition from Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia. Huffman said one idea is to allow West Virginia to do what it wants while the rest of the country “can move forward.”

The social spending package, which Democrats are trying to pass without Republican support through a procedure known as reconciliation, started at $3.5 trillion. Last month, Biden told House Democrats that the range was likely to be $1.9 trillion to $2.2 trillion. He told progressives Tuesday night that the range he is working on is $1.75 trillion to $1.9 trillion, three sources familiar with the meeting said.

Sources cautioned, however, that there is no final deal.

 

[Micky Mikey]

Is anyone else just feeling a bit hopeless regarding our political situation in this country? I mean, I'll vote blue in the midterms and in 2024 but at this point it just seems pointless since Republicans are poised to retake the senate and house. Given their pivot towards proto-fascism, will we even be living in a functional democracy anymore?

The fact that only 2 senators can derail something largely popular with the American public is discouraging. Its even more discouraging to see Biden and the vast majority of Dems who'd vote Yes on the 3.5 trillion bill not publicly call them out. It seems the progressives are championing this bill harder than Biden himself. Why hasn't he come out on national tv to rally the American people behind it? Why aren't there town halls all across the country rallying people to support it? Is the Democratic party really this ineffective at marketing their agenda?

I usually don't err on the side of conspiracy type thinking but their incompetence seems so intentional....

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

that's a weak ass bill...our government aint shyt and literally has no accountability to ever be shyt.

 

[Micky Mikey]

that's a weak ass bill...our government aint shyt and literally have no accountability to ever be shyt.

I am becoming increasingly radicalized...



"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Went from a whole buffet, to a pizza, to a granola bar.

not even the good chewy quaker granola bar full of sugar and chocolate...that dry, hard crumbly nature's valley shyt

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

welcome to electoral politics HELL, brehs

HL LEFT
"Progressive ideas are popular!"

"These (rednecks/black boomers) vote against their own interests."

"We lost due to dirty tricks!"

HL CENTER
"Moderate Dems are a pragmatic path to progress, and if you don't vote for them, you are standing in the way."

"Ok, now we need to elect a few more moderate dems to make those 2 moderate dems less moderate."

"Why hasn't Bernie Sanders fixed this goddamn shyt, huh?"

DEAD7
"reaction smiley"

 

[mastermind]

Instead of complaining all you need to do is organize, canvass, energize disappointed voter base and fight through voter restrictions without any party support.

Do all of that to elect 4 more Democrats like Manchin and Sinema, and even if you accomplish that we'll still be one vote short because three centrist democrats will step out from behind Manchin and SInema to sink any bill that could make significant impact on people's lives and improve party's chance of winning

Workers revolution. fukk them people.

 

[Pressure]

You mean like the voters in Georgia, who came out in record numbers to elect Biden and two Democratic Senators to give Dems control of the chamber?

And what have they been rewarded with?

A watered down stimulus bill
No minimum wage increase
No protections for their voting rights
No police reform

And you have the audacity to tell those voters, "Oh well. Just vote harder next time. " And then you wonder why people get checked out of politics.

This is cute, but Warnock is polling well because he's supporting what he ran on.

People get checked out of politics because live isn't the hell they believe and they don't have realistic expectations of how power dynamics work.

Republicans get it. It's a long game.

But if you don't vote it's whatever.

 

[Pressure]

Instead of complaining all you need to do is organize, canvass, energize disappointed voter base and fight through voter restrictions without any party support.

Do all of that to elect 4 more Democrats like Manchin and Sinema, and even if you accomplish that we'll still be one vote short because three centrist democrats will step out from behind Manchin and SInema to sink any bill that could make significant impact on people's lives and improve party's chance of winning

This is quite the strawman. I don't think any of us have made the argument that dems should elect more people like Manchin or Sinema.

But if those are the people who win, then that speaks more on the campaigns, the candidates, and the voters no?

 

[Consigliere]

It seems the progressives are championing this bill harder than Biden himself.

We really put the 2 worst people for this historical moment into the Whitehouse. Legislation aside, they appear to be asleep at the wheel as we head towards our appointment with full on fascism.

I’m already over this administration. Maybe the best thing Biden and Harris have to offer is their inability to win next cycle clearing the deck for real political energy.