The reason infrastructure was passed was so they could focus on BBB, right?
Manchin was active in the negotiations for both until he Went on Fox News and said “he can’t get there”
I don’t think anything could’ve been done differently, tbh
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Manchin was active in the negotiations for both until he Went on Fox News and said “he can’t get there”
I don’t think anything could’ve been done differently, tbh
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That was the stated reason, but plenty of people called it for what it was (BS). That's the only real reason I like mentioning the handful of no-votes from Squad members, and it wasn't even the entire Squad. There were people that wanted to hold strong and continue to keep the two bills linked as a point of leverage. But those numbers dwindled as Biden and the Dems' approval ratings were falling. The interim elections seem like they were the turning point where the majority switched from "let's hold Manchin and Sinema's feet to the fire" to "Let's get something passed so that we can show our constituents we're working."
My opinion on is that it was a miscalculation. Because the approval and poll numbers never improved or bounced back as a result. They didn't get BBB passed and even after BBB was shanked on Fox News by Manchin; they never pivoted to anything meaningful that might make up for it.
So I'm not sure we could have extracted a better result, and won't pretend to be. But they definitely could have held out longer to try and get a compromise on a bill or some package of bills passed in the interim. The worst-case scenario would be that nothing changes, and they pass the Infrastructure bill a couple of months later. The best case scenario is a water-down framework of the BBB passes that doesn't do enough, but at least gets the ball rolling on some key programs. And, to me, the most realistic scenario is that they'd get one or two compromises from Manchin like that aforementioned Child Tax Credit extension or movement on the prescription drugs side of things.
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cant they pare down BBB and just pass a different version this year?
just go with the mega cap ideas, and cut the bullshyt out of it. we all know goddamn well that the amount of pork in BBB must have been staggering
just go with the mega cap ideas, and cut the bullshyt out of it. we all know goddamn well that the amount of pork in BBB must have been staggering
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The only things that can pass arecant they pare down BBB and just pass a different version this year?
just go with the mega cap ideas, and cut the bullshyt out of it. we all know goddamn well that the amount of pork in BBB must have been staggering
Drug pricing
Clean energy tax credits and spending
ACA and Medicaid gap fix
The tax proposals all 50 got behind
It's not about that.cant they pare down BBB and just pass a different version this year?
just go with the mega cap ideas, and cut the bullshyt out of it. we all know goddamn well that the amount of pork in BBB must have been staggering
They came down to his number and he still walked away. Not because of pork, but simply because he views social programs as building entitlement culture.
She was somewhere in between being flight out racist and urging people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
At the end of the day Manchin and Sinema don't like people who are struggling.
i understand the frustration, but 50 senators just isnt enough of a mandate for BBBIt's not about that.
They came down to his number and he still walked away. Not because of pork, but simply because he views social programs as building entitlement culture.
She was somewhere in between being flight out racist and urging people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
At the end of the day Manchin and Sinema don't like people who are struggling.
manchin and sinema are republicans who will vote for biden's judges. if they were who the far left wants them to be....they wouldnt exist but luckily, progressives are so popular and good at politics that they'll pick up 3 or 4 senate seats
They're corrupt b. Simple as that.It's not about that.
They came down to his number and he still walked away. Not because of pork, but simply because he views social programs as building entitlement culture.
She was somewhere in between being flight out racist and urging people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
At the end of the day Manchin and Sinema don't like people who are struggling.
Joe Manchin not being a good person isn't a surprise. Him being a republican isn't a surprise to anyone. Him being corrupt is documented based on the recordings obtained by Lee Fang and the shift in Republican donors to him. Him using those tropes is not out of the norm for him - deciding to sabotage an entire presidency is out of the norm. And we have documented evidence of why he did it. For whatever reason you want to side step it.
Biden said he had 48 votes and two people being a$$holes. Do I think the other 48 support it all? Probably not, but it would’ve passed. Manchin just voted against making Roe v. Wade law and was the only democrat to do it. Dude doesn’t give a fukk and loves being the villain.do we have documented evidence that BBB had 48 senate votes?
like, we blame manchinema for the filibuster, but its not accurate that there are 48 other votes to get rid of it