in the early 90's if you weren't street/thug/calling women bytches, you weren't popping -Kid N Play

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damn, i thought i replied to this last weekend , but now i'm seeing my post didn't go thru

anywayz - attempted make the point of outkast never being considered gangsta hip hop

@ISO @JustCKing @hex @Art Barr can chime in as well

were these nikkaz considered gangsta rappers ???







obviously, no were near the lyrical skills of kast, but there songs represented WAY MORE street shyt.... weather it's bytches, drugs, violence, killing etc.. etc...

:yeshrug: i can only speak from where i come from & in no wayz was lost boyz remotely considered gangsta rappers
more or less reality rappers with one of the all time slept on albums ever




and to support my point you can do wiki
:hubie: i know wiki isnt alwayz the most accurate place for gathering facts but it you wiki
the 3 groups/ duo's that i've been mentioning (cause i prefer to make analogies that are apples to apples)

mobb deep
lost boyz
outkast

all 3 started basically the same time... check there wiki page under genre
mobb deep - hip hop/ east coast hip hop/ gangsta rap/ hardcore hip hop/ horrorcore
lost boyz - hip hop
outkast - hip hop / alternative hip hop


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OutKast weren't "gangsta rappers" per se, but they were street especially on the first album. You're not going to get that from a Wiki page, but even a brief listen to that first album and it's quite obvious.
 

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like this clown whose always on my d*ck with sidebar comments.

what are you even talking about? you don't even know half the time.

Oh I definitely know, and you know I know.

All your narratives in this thread got shut down. You'll never cop to it, cause you never do, but I see you fightin' the good fight. Valiant effort. :king:
 

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OutKast weren't "gangsta rappers" per se, but they were street especially on the first album. You're not going to get that from a Wiki page, but even a brief listen to that first album and it's quite obvious.


:blessed: i totally agree with street rappers

many pages / post ago - someone said they were gangsta rappers which i been like :what:
 

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i never said 8ball & mjg wasn't hardcore
and on their wiki page it says under genre (hip hop, southern hip hop) o thing about gangsta rap


and amazon doesn't even know anything about music
as matter of a fact i went to there home page and started from the beginning CD/vinyl -all the way- to gangsta / hardcore this is what's the 1st few artist listed

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:hubie:
don't even know why we going back n forth
outkast is one of the greatest all time - and me being born, raised & lived in nyc for 4 decades i just never heard them being labeled gangsta
:hubie:

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Dude, all you had to do was scroll to the bottom of the page (or to the top with the way I have it formatted) and see

And again, nobody's arguing that OUtkast was NWA, but they sure as hell weren't Arrested Development in 1994 and their music at that point was as I've said a "high-school Eightball & MJG", who are definitely listed by Wikipedia as a "gangsta rap group" .
 

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breh, just give it up - u got exposed
take your L & keep it moving


I got exposed for what?

you keep saying I got exposed, but everytime I ask you how, you ignore me and keep repeating that nonsense.

that internet chit.:scusthov:


Oh I definitely know, and you know I know.

All your narratives in this thread got shut down. You'll never cop to it, cause you never do, but I see you fightin' the good fight. Valiant effort. :king:


no I don't know. that's why I'm asking. especially when it comes to your sneaky bullchittin ass.

all what narratives? and be clear.

I was wrong about the original source staff and I did cop to it. so what am I not coppin to?

and BE CLEAR


And again, nobody's arguing that OUtkast was NWA, but they sure as hell weren't Arrested Development in 1994 and their music at that point was as I've said a "high-school Eightball & MJG", who are definitely listed by Wikipedia as a "gangsta rap group" .


i'd hate to bail ole boy out right about now, but I was the one that initially brought up arrested development.

and all I was saying was that they inherited a lot of their fanbase.

then yall took it elsewhere and out of context(and nobody copped to doing that) and derailed the thread.......but I'm the bad guy.

that's why I don't f*ck it some of these funny-style dudes like @DANJ!, who by the way, ran out of the other thread when I corrected him on it.
 
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Dude, all you had to do was scroll to the bottom of the page (or to the top with the way I have it formatted) and see

And again, nobody's arguing that OUtkast was NWA, but they sure as hell weren't Arrested Development in 1994 and their music at that point was as I've said a "high-school Eightball & MJG", who are definitely listed by Wikipedia as a "gangsta rap group" .
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i dunno what wiki page u looking at ???
 

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8Ball & MJG
8Ball & MJG is an American hip hop duo from Memphis, Tennessee. The two rappers met at Ridgeway Middle School (Memphis, Tennessee) in 1984. In 1993, the duo released their debut album Comin' Out Hard. They went on to release On the Outside Looking In (1994), On Top of the World (1995), In Our Lifetime (1999), Space Age 4 Eva(2000), Living Legends (2004), Ridin High (2007) and Ten Toes Down (2010).

8Ball & MJG
Origin
Memphis, Tennessee, United States
Genres Hip hop, Southern hip hop
Years active 1991–present
Labels Suave House, Grand Hustle, E1 Music, Bad Boy South, Real Talk
Associated acts Three 6 Mafia, UGK, Young Buck, Al Kapone, T.I., Lil' Flip, 112, Yo Gotti, Tameka Cottle
Members Premro "8Ball" Smith
Marlon Jermaine "MJG" Goodwin



CareerEdit

They first appeared on the rap scene with their 1991 underground album Listen to the Lyrics.[1] In 1993, they released the successful album Comin' Out Hard.[2] Their subsequent albums in the 1990s including 1994's On the Outside Looking In, and 1995's On Top of the World cemented their status as some of the South's best rappers.[3] On Top of the World was particularly successful, peaking at #8 on the Billboard Hot 200 and being certified Gold.[3] It also contained the song "Space Age Pimpin'", which was 8Ball & MJG's first single to chart, reaching #58 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles and Trackschart and #22 on the Hot Rap Singles chart.[4] After those albums both 8Ball & MJG released solo albums, first MJG's No More Glory in 1997 and then 8Ball's Lost in 1998.[5][6] They reunited in 1999 to release their fourth album as a group, titled In Our Lifetime.[7] One year later in 2000, they released their fifth group album entitled Space Age 4 Eva.[8]

In 1996, they appeared on the Red Hot Organization's compilation CD, America is Dying Slowly, alongside Biz Markie, Wu-Tang Clan, and Fat Joe, among many other prominent hip hop artists.[9] The CD, meant to raise awareness of the AIDS epidemic among African American men, was heralded as "a masterpiece" by The Source magazine.[9] In the early 2000s they would sign with Sean Combs' Bad Boy Records.[10] They already had some experience with the label, being featured on the song "The Player Way" from Bad Boy rapper Mase's 1997 album Harlem World.[11] Their first album for Bad Boy Records, Living Legends, came out in 2004 and was certified Gold by the RIAA.[12] Their second album on Bad Boy Records was titled Ridin High and was released in March 2007.[12]

Commercially one of the high points of 8Ball & MJG's career was their being featured on Three 6 Mafia's hit song "Stay Fly" in 2005.[13] That song peaked at #13 on the BillboardHot 100, which is the biggest hit of Three 6 Mafia's career and the biggest hit for 8Ball & MJG.[13] The song was a collaboration between two of the most successful rap groups from the state of Tennessee, from whence Three 6 Mafia also hail.[13] Today 8Ball and MJG also head their own record labels. 8Ball heads 8 Ways Entertainment (distributed by Koch Entertainment), while MJG heads MJG Muzik.[14] On their label are the young, up and coming Memphis duo, Da Volunteers, who are widely known throughout the Southern United States for their 2006 single, "What's Yo Favorite Color?", which glorifies their neighborhood of Orange Mound.[14]

In September 2007, 8Ball and MJG signed deals in Sacramento, CA with Real Talk Entertainment 8Ball released a group album with E.D.I of the Outlawz entitled Doin' It Bigon April 1, 2008 and MJG released a solo album entitled Pimp Tight on April 29, 2008.[14][15] In June 2008 the group announced that they officially signed onto T.I.'s record label Grand Hustle.[16] Their eighth album as a group and their first on Grand Hustle, titled Ten Toes Down, was released in May 2010.[17] It reached #36 on the Billboard 200 in its first week.[17]


DiscographyEdit

Main article: 8Ball & MJG discography
Studio albumsEdit
8Ball albumsEdit
MJG albumsEdit

References

External linksEdit



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I got exposed for what?

you keep saying I got exposed, but everytime I ask you how, you ignore me and keep repeating that nonsense.

that internet chit.:scusthov:

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are u serious ????











this is unbelievable.... i gotta explain this shyt like im talking to a fukking 6 year old
:snoop:
u exposed yourself for saying fukk da source.... then went in on the non or lack of blacks that built the mag
then on some stupid shyt of how there mics/rating system didn't mean anything
then said they was never the hip hop bible
etc... etc....
all this fukkery being said by a person whom wasn't even able to read & comprehend neverless recognize fa culture at that particular time


breh

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this is unbelievable.... i gotta explain this shyt like im talking to a fukking 6 year old
:snoop:
u exposed yourself for saying fukk da source.... then went in on the non or lack of blacks that built the mag
then on some stupid shyt of how there mics/rating system didn't mean anything
then said they was never the hip hop bible
etc... etc....
all this fukkery being said by a person whom wasn't even able to read & comprehend neverless recognize fa culture at that particular time

breh


you dudes is stupid & need to get some lives.:heh:

so because I didn't know who the writers were when the source blew up, that means I'm exposing myself? maybe I'm just not caught up in that chit like that. I have no clue whose writing for the source now. does that expose me as well? I took my L for speaking on the writers at the time. I was wrong and I admitted it 10 times already. but that chit aint important enough to be considered an exposal tho. LOL.

for the record, by the time the source blew up, I was a non-sheltered honor roll student. so the idea that I couldn't read is laughable, as well as the idea of me not being able to comprehend the culture by then, when I was literally born into that chit.

as for the source in particular, I never remotely said I was an avid reader or subscriber back then. so again I ask, where is the real exposal? I'm talking about an EXPOSAL. not some 'I caught you saying something wrong, so I'm gonna rub it in' type of chit.

I knew a lot of people like yourselves held the mic ratings in high-regard, and bought in to that hip-hop bible nonsense. but a lot of people didn't care like that. its kayfabe chit. I'm not talking in kayfabe. I'm talking real-life. that's what you idiots don't seem to understand. and you especially never will, because every thread your argument is based on what was getting spins on hot 97 or some other chit. GET A CLUE NICCA.

just chalk it up to social differences. we're not cut from the same cloth and obviously don't even speak the same language.

same with anybody that's in agreement with what youre saying.
 

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you dudes is stupid & need to get some lives.:heh:

so because I didn't know who the writers were when the source blew up, that means I'm exposing myself? maybe I'm just not caught up in that chit like that. I have no clue whose writing for the source now. does that expose me as well? I took my L for speaking on the writers at the time. I was wrong and I admitted it 10 times already. but that chit aint important enough to be considered an exposal tho. LOL.

for the record, by the time the source blew up, I was a non-sheltered honor roll student. so the idea that I couldn't read is laughable, as well as the idea of me not being able to comprehend the culture by then, when I was literally born into that chit.

as for the source in particular, I never remotely said I was an avid reader or subscriber back then. so again I ask, where is the real exposal? I'm talking about an EXPOSAL. not some 'I caught you saying something wrong, so I'm gonna rub it in' type of chit.

I knew a lot of people like yourselves held the mic ratings in high-regard, and bought in to that hip-hop bible nonsense. but a lot of people didn't care like that. its kayfabe chit. I'm not talking in kayfabe. I'm talking real-life. that's what you idiots don't seem to understand. and you especially never will, because every thread your argument is based on what was getting spins on hot 97 or some other chit. GET A CLUE NICCA.

just chalk it up to social differences. we're not cut from the same cloth and obviously don't even speak the same language.

same with anybody that's in agreement with what youre saying.

:mjlol:

da source magazine blew up in 1990 which would have made u a whopping 5 years old that was getting ready to begin kindergarten
so spear me that honor roll student bullshyt
:camby:
and dont think i aint notice how u made this statement without putting a year to it

with that said, all your doing is trying to save face for being exposed


breh
its no need to reply anymore
you exposed yourself for making comments about something you was WAY TOO YOUNG to even understand



:yeshrug: please move on from this
 

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Dude

Look at the VERY TOP OF THE PAGE that I posted.

Where it says CATEGORIES:

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Like I said, it's located at the very bottom of the page of most people's Wikipedia

oh ok, i finally see it

dunno being listed in said category actually means anything
like i posted the 1st few artists from amazon -gangsta/hardcore hip hop categories which included a bunch of R&B & a few rockers



:hubie: but its all good
 

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da source magazine blew up in 1990 which would have made u a whopping 5 years old that was getting ready to begin kindergarten
so spear me that honor roll student bullshyt
:camby:
and dont think i aint notice how u made this statement without putting a year to it

with that said, all your doing is trying to save face for being exposed


breh
its no need to reply anymore
you exposed yourself for making comments about something you was WAY TOO YOUNG to even understand



:yeshrug: please move on from this


this is beyond silly now.

what is there to understand? people like YOU put high stakes in media/industry chit. while people like me DONT GIVE A F*CK. it doesn't matter if we're talking about 1990, 2004, 1892, 1962, whatever. WHAT PART OF THAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND. the fact that I have to keep explaining this to you, just proves my point. I don't have to save face for anything. wake up.

and this means nothing but for facts sake, I didn't add a year. its been well-known since SOHH that I started school at 4, as there was a female poster who did the same thing, in the same year of '89. only difference is she got her diploma in '02, while I owed credits and took my time clearing that, and ended up with an '03 diploma even tho I havnt set foot in that school since '02. again, this means nothing to the topic, but just to be clear since youre trying to speak on my life.
 

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this is beyond silly now.

what is there to understand? people like YOU put high stakes in media/industry chit. while people like me DONT GIVE A F*CK. it doesn't matter if we're talking about 1990, 2004, 1892, 1962, whatever. WHAT PART OF THAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND. the fact that I have to keep explaining this to you, just proves my point. I don't have to save face for anything. wake up.

and this means nothing but for facts sake, I didn't add a year. its been well-known since SOHH that I started school at 4, as there was a female poster who did the same thing, in the same year of '89. only difference is she got her diploma in '02, while I owed credits and took my time clearing that, and ended up with an '03 diploma even tho I havnt set foot in that school since '02. again, this means nothing to the topic, but just to be clear since youre trying to speak on my life.

the only thing thats silly.... is you keep replying in order to save face

stop it.... with this 'high regard' 'high stakes' nonsense : WHAT you dont understand is one must be of aged or mentally capable to deem whats high regarded/stakes in order to even have an opinion

why you just cant keep it moving after being exposed - i'll say this, as many times as you need
your not qualified to speak on shyt you was too young to comprehend
 
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