In memory of our brother Charmander, RIP: The OFFICIAL 2019-2020 Atlanta Hawks season thread #Set

How many games will the Hawks win this season

  • 29 or less

    Votes: 22 44.0%

  • 30-35

    Votes: 12 24.0%

  • 36-41

    Votes: 10 20.0%

  • 42+ wins

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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A. Rui was drafted higher.
B. Players who play defense hard and very effective always have struggled shooting.
C. Cam is doing a lot of the eye test things I want to see right even if failing on the obvious things like playing through traffic, finishing and obviously shooting.

At the end of the day, if you want to sell your stock, I am buying right now. Just don't ask for it back.

I think you are overreacting. Only because a lot of his issues are fixable.

He has high awareness at least off the ball and on defense.
He moves exceptionally well.
He is extremely fast with the ball
He has a good first step for anyone
He has a flexible and quick release
His defense is already high quality for a rotation starter and has a chance to be elite.
His length, athleticism, and speed cause a lot of issues on defense.
He can generate space without the defense willingly giving to him.
He can create for others and has good court vision and plays out of the PnR very well for anyone much less a rookie.

As I said, you can focus on the obvious flaws but once those things are fixed, what's you have is a top-end two wing monster. Offensively, he is like an of high school 2nd rounder like Lou Williams and Rashard Lewis. Duke used him in ways that just haven't been that effective for us and wasn't for him on offense. We are fixing that. It will take time.
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The biggest issue he has that you didn’t mention is his desire to be a great basketball player. I don’t see that from him and haven’t seen “that dog” that so many people reference. Obviously he’s talented and he’s getting coached. At some point, hopefully soon, he will start to assert himself, but I haven’t seen that hunger from him to be the best player on the court and I don’t think that’s fixable unless he decides to fix it himself
 
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AVXL said:
The biggest issue he has that you didn’t mention is his desire to be a great basketball player. I don’t see that from him and haven’t seen “that dog” that so many people reference. Obviously he’s talented and he’s getting coached. At some point, hopefully soon, he will start to assert himself, but I haven’t seen that hunger from him to be the best player on the court and I don’t think that’s fixable unless he decides to fix it himself
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He didn't play tonight and we got straight whooped.
 
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AVXL said:
Im slick nervous this might happen :francis:

We’re not even competitive some nights now
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he ain't dumb...he seen the mistakes the past players made staying 7 years before taking off.

Look at AD. nikka been called a loser his whole nba life.....Now he 17-2 :russ:
 
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Stone said:
Sucks because with the way Trae’s playing if Huerter and Collins were in there we’d legit have like 6 or 7 more wins
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Needless to say, both Huerter and Collins would help, but let's not pretend like Trae's play hasn't been without its faults (which is to be expected given it's only his second season). Far too often he tries to force shyt on offense, which puts an already limited team in worse spots trying to compensate for it (one of the main causes for their offensive inconsistency and inability to generate any rhythm/momentum), and doesn't provide much resistance on the defensive end.

Some of this could be mitigated if he didn't dominate the ball so much, and the Hawks used him more as an off-ball threat.

:manny:
 
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I don't know this dog you talk about. I have seen him constantly bussing his ass on the defensive end so what is this dog are you talking about?
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You’ve never heard someone refer to an aggressive player having some “dog” in him? :dwillhuh:?
 
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