In France: Male Arabs Upset Over Female Arabs Dating Blacks (Haters Gon Hate)

[Tae]

You did when you said this:
"just wanted bring up a stupid counter point of black men getting women of different races for centuries after@@cocoette mentioned how Arab men had African women as slaves."

No I was addressing when cocoette said this:
"yes the admixture is even higher than ones between whites-blacks
the majority of these mixtures were between berber/arab men and their african slave women you know."

She had the same problem most people have when differeinating blacks from Berbers. Berber is just a language group. But anyways I went on to say that it was mostly African men(Berbers) having white female slaves. Which is why I brought up North African Y-DNA in the first place. Why? Because it would tell us in a way who were the enslavers. If it were mostly Arabs having African females then you would see modern day male Y-DNA in North Africans being mostly Middle Eastern, but that's not the case, since African E-81 is around 80% + in North Africa. Thats why I said African slaves were low on the list and Arabs enslaving Africans/blacks is sometimes exaggerated. Arabs having black slaves in large numbers didn't come until the 19th century.


I meant she said that the "mixtures were between berber/arab men and their African slave women." Which is only part true.



She could have meant Arabs buying slave women from the Swahili coast and bringing them to Arabia. If she meant North Africa then she is incorrect.

As for why I bought up modern day North Africans being the result of African men and European women, it was just to further back up my argument. With African men having non black slaves then the other way around which is non blacks(prior to the 19th century) having lots of Africans slaves when again African slaves were low on the list.

I said I think @KidStranglehold just wanted bring up a stupid counter point... meaning I'm drawing a conclusion. I never said that is what you said.

You are talking about the slavery in Medieval Times for some reason. I know that slavery in Medieval Times and even in Ancient Times was not race based, most people here are talking about 17th century slavery and beyond when slavery became race based.
Arabs had African/black slaves in the 19th century it is easy to deduce that those men raped those women and some of those women birthed Arab/African children which contributed to a percentage of modern day Arabs having African DNA. I'm almost positive that is what @cocoette was referring to.
Again it baffled me as to why you brought up slavery in Medieval Times, because when most people refer to slavery that are talking about race based slavery. That is like someone bringing up slavery in Ancient Rome when discussing slavery in North America, one has very little to do with the other.

 

[Black Nate Grey]

@ebonykiss and @Northern Touch
Thanks for the rep guys, I'm actually happy to know that there is at least some people who know what I'm talking about.

 

[Beerus]

Yeah it's probably only sand nikkas that ain't got game enough and realize that their religion ain't gon help em secure them bytches

fukkING IDIOTS

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I said I think @KidStranglehold just wanted bring up a stupid counter point... meaning I'm drawing a conclusion. I never said that is what you said.

You are talking about the slavery in Medieval Times for some reason. I know that slavery in Medieval Times and even in Ancient Times was not race based, most people here are talking about 17th century slavery and beyond when slavery became race based.
Arabs had African/black slaves in the 19th century it is easy to deduce that those men raped those women and some of those women birthed Arab/African children which contributed to a percentage of modern day Arabs having African DNA. I'm almost positive that is what @cocoette was referring to.
Again it baffled me as to why you brought up slavery in Medieval Times, because when most people refer to slavery that are talking about race based slavery. That is like someone bringing up slavery in Ancient Rome when discussing slavery in North America, one has very little to do with the other.

Yet you're now just bringing up slavery in the 17th and 19th century...Which was around the same time of the Atlantic slave trade.

Again I reiterate most of Arab buying African slaves was mostly limited to the Eastern Swahili coast of Africa even in the 19th century.

 

[Omerta]

Yeah it's probably only sand nikkas that ain't got game enough and realize that their religion ain't gon help em secure them bytches

fukkING IDIOTS

yo at the end of the day it's the same with EVERY culture.

A white man sees a white girl with a black guy and she's a n****r lover
A black man sees a black girl with a white guy and she's a c00n.
An arab sees an arab girl with a white/black guy and she's an infidel.

Same shyt. It's a circle of insecurity.

 

[Beerus]

I am haitian too
I'm North African Not east African breh ( although I am talking to an E african girl now, might have to put babies in that)
Grew up in America.. lived overseas 6-7 years total

shyt so its true Morocan bytches must not be on that mode cuz shyt im from montreal and I''ve been on a losing streak with algerian girls since last year 2(could be 3 but I just talk to her I ain't even try to get her fukking cellphone number. I was thinking about getting at her even before my last attempt, but I stopped after my 2nd)
Like now as soon as a chick tells me she muslim I just go cuz i don't want the headaches

 

[Tae]

Yet you're now just bringing up slavery in the 17th and 19th century...Which was around the same time of the Atlantic slave trade.

Again I reiterate most of Arab buying African slaves was mostly limited to the Eastern Swahili coast of Africa even in the 19th century.

What???
Did you even take time to read and comprehend what I said.
Let me see of this is easier for you to understand. @cocoette mentioned there being a comparable percentage of Arab/African mixture as there is White/African mixture from the slave trade. I took this to mean the 17th century + as would most people, because when most people talk about slavery they are talking about the race based kind.
Perhaps @cocoette is wrong and there is a smaller percentage of Arab/African mixture compared to White/African mixture if you wanted to correct her you should have informed her that Arabs only enslaved Africans of the Swahili coast of Africa so the numbers/mixture would have been smaller compared to that of the Atlantic slave trade which covered thousands of Africans across an large region and 2 centuries, instead of going on about Medieval slavery and how African and Arab men had Slavic women as slaves and their numbers were higher. She is wrong in believing that Africans never had access to European slaves as she may be unknowledgeable of there being African kingdoms, but like many I assumed she was talking about post 17th century when Africans had no access to European slaves.
Of course the Arab slave trade was not as enterprising as the Atlantic Slave trade but there is no need to downplay it.

 

[McPiff]

man fukk that bullshyt article, i aint een gon read it.

blacks and arabs r cool in france, they real tight. especially with maghrebis, that African unity/pride is strong.

It's alwas been like this tho... but of course it's being exaggerated like a motherfukker. It is not a big problem in France at all... the fact that there are groups on facebook for this is wack as hell though... also beurettes is a derogatory term for a a north african women. Kinda strange that these people would refer to them as that.

Article is exagerrated to the max. You best believe black kids get mad too if their sister goes out with an arab/white boy.

In general they have have this culture in french hoods that if your sister is a ho everybody looks down on you unless you do something about it. How many times have I seen brehs give a black eye to their older sister for coming home late :mjkkk:

Blacks and arabs are tight in france, this article is 90% garbage.

As someone who is neither black or Arab, but is Muslim (which this story relates to) and has a lot of family in France, this story is stupid.

Firstly, the internet showing a couple of stories doesn't prove shyt. People are stupid, people act stupid on the internet, nothing new.

Blacks and Arabs have almost the exact same plight in France. Both are heavily discriminated against. However, they stick together. This is the same in countries like Belgium, Holland, Germany etc. as well where there are large communities of people from African countries like Morocco, Algeria, Egpyt (ie. countires that have are a combination of blacks and arabs). These two groups interconnect with each other a lot, especially considering that they DOMINATE the poverty stricken areas. They stick together and most groups have a lot of Blacks and Arabs.

I'm not gonna get heavy in the religion talk of it. I see so many of y'all talk about how Muslims treat slaves, which is crap. We go by what the prophet Muhammad alayhi as-salam showed and says, not what some Muslims have done since. The religion is perfect, the people are not. Anyway, a black mans voice is behind the Azan (Bilal Ibn Rabah) in Islam, something we hear 5 times a day before we pray. A slave that the prophet (pbuh) freed.

And whilst this is a Hip hop forum, I love this song and video. Blacks and Arabs have a very close relationship in a lot of those European countries.

cotdamn brehs. i dunno if y'all just on that kumbabya shyt or if it's just hearsay, but shyt aint that sweet over here.

Arabs and blacks (especially black folks coming from the west indies) are not that tight. Even though the new generation tries to cover that, the beef is real.

 

[Ikwa]

cotdamn brehs. i dunno if y'all just on that kumbabya shyt or if it's just hearsay, but shyt aint that sweet over here.

Arabs and blacks (especially black folks coming from the west indies) are not that tight. Even though the new generation tries to cover that, the beef is real.

Have you lived there to make that claim or did you come to that conclusion from your state line breh?

 

[dallastexas]

black swag is impeccable....its not our fault...hell even when we try to turn it off...it still steeps through , we just have an aura

lol,,, guess that same aura is attractive to the jail cell too huh

 

[McPiff]

Have you lived there to make that claim or did you come to that conclusion from your state line breh?

Breh,



I LIVE there.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I really have a hard time understanding humans on this planet.

I can see if you dislike someone because of their culture, their language, the attitudes, or even religion.

But over skin color??? You look down on people because they're darker than you and that's it? And it's not just Arabs, it's mostly every other race too

 

[Michael9100]

they look like mixed women

 

[Sunalmighty]

Ridiculous. Anyways, look at these niccas in the photos man. I mean, if one of us goes over there we'd be on some Fillmore Slim stuff, easily

 

[Batman]

I really have a hard time understanding humans on this planet.

I can see if you dislike someone because of their culture, their language, the attitudes, or even religion.

But over skin color??? You look down on people because they're darker than you and that's it? And it's not just Arabs, it's mostly every other race too