I'm starting to hate the gay agenda being forced upon people

[MeachTheMonster]

The problem is most people see homosexuality as a lifestyle when being in love with some one is based on very profound and very innate feelings. What most people focus on is the sexual aspect of it so they dont see it as a meaningful part of a persons identity therefore they cant understand why someone would make a big deal about it. I think what also confuses people is that when we talk about someone who is gay we refer to their identity as their "sexuality" which may give some people the impression that everything about the person is reduced down to sex but it goes beyond that. It would be like saying racism is simply about skin color when culture is at least just as big a factor, probably a bigger factor.

The feeling of being gay or attracted to the same sex is not a lifestyle. How you play out those feelings is the lifestyle choice. Some gay people just choose to live their lives normally. Yes they have a mate that is of the same sex, but other than that they live fairly normal lives like the rest of us. Other gay people want to blur the line between male and female. They want schools to be gender neutral. Trangedered people want to be viewed as the opposite sex legally and socially. This is the lifestyle choice that i disagree with. I don't have to accept a man as a woman just because he feels that way. When someone such as myself expresses these concerns we are called, Predjudice, hateful, intolerant, homophobic. When none of that is actually the case we just want to protect our own thoughts views and lifestyles.

 

[Propaganda]

The feeling of being gay or attracted to the same sex is not a lifestyle. How you play out those feelings is the lifestyle choice. Some gay people just choose to live their lives normally. Yes they have a mate that is of the same sex, but other than that they live fairly normal lives like the rest of us. Other gay people want to blur the line between male and female. They want schools to be gender neutral. Trangedered people want to be viewed as the opposite sex legally and socially. This is the lifestyle choice that i disagree with. I don't have to accept a man as a woman just because he feels that way. When someone such as myself expresses these concerns we are called, Predjudice, hateful, intolerant, homophobic. When none of that is actually the case we just want to protect our own thoughts views and lifestyles.

seems you only want to apply that line of thinking to your side of the argument though. when "they" want to protect their own thoughts, views, lifestyles, choices, etc...it's wrong!

be consistent, bruh.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

seems you only want to apply that line of thinking to your side of the argument though. when "they" want to protect their own thoughts, views, lifestyles, choices, etc...it's wrong!

be consistent, bruh.

No I have stated multiple times that I am FOR gay rights. They should be able to get married raise children, go to work, and do all the things I am allowed to do.

My problem is when you tell me that I have to agree with the lifestyle and accept women as men, or men as women. This infringes on my rights and beliefs. I'm not trying to make gay people accept my lifestyle as correct or incorrect. They just have to repect my rights just as i should respect theirs.

 

[JMurder]

No I have stated multiple times that I am FOR gay rights. They should be able to get married raise children, go to work, and do all the things I am allowed to do.

My problem is when you tell me that I have to agree with the lifestyle and accept women as men, or men as women. This infringes on my rights and beliefs. I'm not trying to make gay people accept my lifestyle as correct or incorrect. They just have to repect my rights just as i should respect theirs.

who's telling you this breh?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

who's telling you this breh?

Transgendered men who are fighting to be legally accepted as women. Transgender people who are fighting to enter beauty contests as the opposite sex. Gay men who sue a female sorority for gender discrimination. Schools that are trying to raise children as gender neutral.

as my kids grow up they will be forced to share sports events, awards, locker rooms, ect with members of the opposite sex, and i have to accept it or be labeled an intolerant homophobic bigot.

 

[JMurder]

Transgendered men who are fighting to be legally accepted as women. Transgender people who are fighting to enter beauty contests as the opposite sex. Gay men who sue a female sorority for gender discrimination. Schools that are trying to raise children as gender neutral.

No I have stated multiple times that I am FOR gay rights. They should be able to get married raise children, go to work, and do all the things I am allowed to do.

Just because they're fighting to push for rights that there really is no precedent for doesn't mean they are forcing you to accept their lifestyle bruh. Those fights won't be won in our lifetimes anyhow

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Just because they're fighting to push for rights that there really is no precedent for doesn't mean they are forcing you to accept their lifestyle bruh. Those fights won't be won in our lifetimes anyhow

These fights are happening right now. Transgenderd people are now allowed to enter miss universe pageants. Schools are currently teaching kids gender neutrality. There is currently a group of homosexual male students suing a sorority because they will not allow the men to join. These schools and organizations have been forced to accept men as women. People are currently trying to force the boy scouts to accept gay members. As a private organization they are allowed include or disqualify whomever they like. But people are currently calling for laws to change in order force the scouts to accept homosexuals. It is being forced upon society and those of us that disagree are being persecuted as intolerant and hateful. On this board I have been compared to a racist slave owner due to my views. But I have never expressed the desire to discriminate or disallow rights to anyone.

 

[JMurder]

These fights are happening right now. Transgenderd people are now allowed to enter miss universe pageants. Schools are currently teaching kids gender neutrality. There is currently a group of homosexual male students suing a sorority because they will not allow the men to join. These schools and organizations have been forced to accept men as women. People are currently trying to force the boy scouts to accept gay members. As a private organization they are allowed include or disqualify whomever they like. But people are currently calling for laws to change in order force the scouts to accept homosexuals. It is being forced upon society and those of us that disagree are being persecuted as intolerant and hateful. On this board I have been compared to a racist slave owner due to my views. But I have never expressed the desire to discriminate or disallow rights to anyone.

So you agree with changing laws in order to prevent discrimination against LGBT people....but you dislike laws focused on integrating LGBT people??????



You do realize if these types of things were done when everyone else were fighting for civil rights that there wouldn't have been festering race relations for so long right? Oh, you'd rather them wait and see if they'll continue to be persecuted first as if history hasn't given them a guideline already right?



Listen if that's how you feel, don't give them support. Don't say "oh, I'm in support of them" but then as soon as laws are made that interfere with your life you wanna get up in arms. You're sending mixed messages

 

[Pool_Shark]

So it's either you hate gays or you don't? No middle ground can exist?

 

[JMurder]

So it's either you hate gays or you don't? No middle ground can exist?

of course there's a middle ground. don't speak out

 

[Pool_Shark]

of course there's a middle ground. don't speak out

 

[JMurder]

and that's not to say not to voice an opinion....but if you're conflicted don't say "I support" or "I'm against" cause you're not helping any cause doing that.

 

[yesiambowling]

9 pages of retards swinging at ghosts.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So you agree with changing laws in order to prevent discrimination against LGBT people....but you dislike laws focused on integrating LGBT people??????



You do realize if these types of things were done when everyone else were fighting for civil rights that there wouldn't have been festering race relations for so long right? Oh, you'd rather them wait and see if they'll continue to be persecuted first as if history hasn't given them a guideline already right?



Listen if that's how you feel, don't give them support. Don't say "oh, I'm in support of them" but then as soon as laws are made that interfere with your life you wanna get up in arms. You're sending mixed messages

If a law was made to force the boy scouts to accept homosexual members it would actualy be stripping rights away from the boy scouts owners. The boy scouts are a private organization they can allow whomever they want to join. I can't just go force a fraternity to allow me in. The laws aren't discriminatory, the organization is discriminatory. We should not support the organization if we disagree with there practices. The government shouldn't support these organizations with tax breaks,grants, etc. But we can't just force them to change their practices.

No laws have been made to force the KKK to allow black members. No laws have been passed to force country clubs to accept women. No laws have been passed to force the Freemasons to allow outsiders in their fraternity.

I am for equal rights for EVERYBODY.
And for the record I disagree with the boy scouts stance on the issue. The goal of the boy scouts is to teach boys responsibility and how to make moral and ethical decisions as an adult. They are failing this mission by disallowing homosexual people. They should be teaching the boys how to interact and work with people from ALL walks of life. But just because I disagree doesn't mean they should be forced to change their practices.

The gay community is already "integrated" in society. They are missing some basic rights the rest of us enjoy concerning marriage, family life, ect. But they are very much integrated in society. Nobody is calling for segregation, or deportation of homosexual people.

 

[JMurder]

If a law was made to force the boy scouts to accept homosexual members it would actualy be stripping rights away from the boy scouts owners. The boy scouts are a private organization they can allow whomever they want to join. I can't just go force a fraternity to allow me in. The laws aren't discriminatory, the organization is discriminatory. We should not support the organization if we disagree with there practices. The government shouldn't support these organizations with tax breaks,grants, etc. But we can't just force them to change their practices.

I agree with all that but those are the cases that I'm certain will get thrown out. If boy scouts/frats aren't letting homosexuals in (or kicking them out for being homosexual) then obviously that's against the law but as far as I'm aware that's not how it is. So there's no leg to stand on for that.