I'm Sorry But Fat Joe is not a Culture Vulture, AT ALL!

[HarlemHottie]

It's not about phenotype; it's a cultural thing. Even dark skinned Puerto Ricans was looked at as outsiders to ADOS in NYC, which is why these darker ricans hid their heritage to fit in

Breh. No disrespect to you whatsoever because you perform yeoman's work in these threads, but uh, I'm from here and realize that fully.

My point was that non NYers don't get to regulate who can say what based on phenotype, an argument made on every page of this thread.

Just thinking about it, I'm realizing for the first time that ALL my aunts on both sides, born in here to nc/sc parents, would look non ados to non nyers. So a non NYer would come here and feel it's appropriate to check them? Or my ls/ wavy cousins? That's wild.


@xoxodede You my sister and i love you. Let's discuss.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Breh. No disrespect to you whatsoever because you perform yeoman's work in these threads, but uh, I'm from here and realize that fully.

My point was that non NYers don't get to regulate who can say what based on phenotype, an argument made on every page of this thread.

Just thinking about it, I'm realizing for the first time that ALL my aunts on both sides, born in here to nc/sc parents, would look non ados to non nyers. So a non NYer would come here and feel it's appropriate to check them? Or my ls/ wavy cousins? That's wild.

The phenotype argument is erroneous from non- Nyer ADOS because there are ADOS outside of NYC/North East (the south actually has more light skinned black people than the north) who look "whiter" than these same Ricans such as Fat Joe, which is why I said it's more of a cultural thing that ADOS outside the North East wouldn't take kindly to Latinos in the North East always saying "Niqqa".

 

[HarlemHottie]

The phenotype argument is erroneous from non- Nyer ADOS because there are ADOS outside of NYC/North East (the south actually has more light skinned black people than the north) who look "whiter" than these same Ricans such as Fat Joe, which why I said it's more if a cultural thing that ADOS outside the North East wouldn't take kindly to Latinos in the North East always saying "Niqqa".

So they're calling him "non black" when what they mean to say is "non ados"?

Idk, they're pretty explicitly calling him a "white man"...

 

[IllmaticDelta]

So they're calling him "non black" when what they mean to say is "non ados"?

Idk, they're pretty explicitly calling him a "white man"...

people are using both arguments lol:

1.some are saying joe is "black" or afro-descent but not ADOS

^^this I agree with




2. others are saying he's literally a "white" guy

^^this I don't agree with especially when you scroll through this thread--> America's Most Powerful Black Families

and notice "whiter" looking ADOS lol

 

[HarlemHottie]

people are using both arguments lol:

2. others are saying he's literally a "white" guy

^^this I don't agree with especially when you scroll through this thread--> America's Most Powerful Black Families

and notice "whiter" looking ADOS lol

Ok, my posts were intended to address argument two.

 

[horizon]

NYers embarrass themselves in threads like these every time

Just say yall cool with letting non-blacks call you a nikka to your face because you're too p*ssy too press em

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Breh. No disrespect to you whatsoever because you perform yeoman's work in these threads, but uh, I'm from here and realize that fully.

My point was that non NYers don't get to regulate who can say what based on phenotype, an argument made on every page of this thread.

Just thinking about it, I'm realizing for the first time that ALL my aunts on both sides, born in here to nc/sc parents, would look non ados to non nyers. So a non NYer would come here and feel it's appropriate to check them? Or my ls/ wavy cousins? That's wild.


@xoxodede You my sister and i love you. Let's discuss.

Christopher Williams grew up around my way in The Bronx.

Back in the day before he was famous, everyone swore he was Puerto Rican (he is biracial).

 

[HarlemHottie]

Christopher Williams grew up around my way in The Bronx.

Back in the day before he was famous, everyone swore he was Puerto Rican (he is biracial).

But Im not even on biracials, everybody im talking about is old school multi generational mixed.

 

[O.G.B]

Fat Joe Defends His Usage Of The N-Word:

New York rapper Fat Joe, who is of Puerto Rican and Cuban descent, has been unabashed about saying the N-word over the course of his hip-hop career, despite fans having found malice with it.

"My thing is, when you say ‘You’re Latino. Why you using the N-word?,’ are you calling me racist for using it? Like, do you think I’m racist for using it? The way the N-word offends me is when someone says it in a racial way [and] we feel like somebody’s trying to call us a n**ga. So, now you looking at me with racist eyes when all I do is for my culture, my people?” Joe pondered around the 15-minute, adding that “I treat Black people and Latinos the same way, 100 percent. I treat them all the same way.

"Joe added that the term has always been used as a term of endearment since he was a kid" .


My5

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

No, he's not a vulture but it doesn't matter how long he's been down with the hip-hop culture it doesn't give him the right to go around slinging the N-word with the hard er out his mouth in songs, etc.

That's where ppl like the OP miss the point of why ppl feel the way they do of Fat Joe. It's understandable. PR's being down with hip-hop since the late 70s doesn't mean they're allowed to go around recklessly using the N-word with hard er and expect ppl to be cool with it.

There are boundaries and Fat Joe crosses the line too many times in that regard. If he didn't have a history of that nobody would be coming at his neck.

Receipts?

 

[goatmane]

NY brehs, if u asked your Hisoanic friends to stop saying nikka, what would happen

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

But Im not even on biracials, everybody im talking about is old school multi generational mixed.

The point being that it is a fool's errand to travel back into a Bronx and Harlem Hip Hop time machine and by phenotype, identify who was southern Black, who was from the English-speaking Caribbean, who was from the Spanish-speaking Caribbean, who was from the French/Creole speaking Caribbean, who was white and who was mixed with all those backgrounds in the community centers and park jams 45 years ago.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

While The Coli is labored with dissecting Bronx 23andMe reports, in the real world, a diverse group of achievers
are building the first major Hip Hop Museum in the borough.

HOT Highlights » Hip-Hop Legends attend Groundbreaking for the Universal Hip-Hop Museum in the Bronx
Museum founder Rocky Bucano, X-Clan's Paradise, Nas, LL Cool J, and Fat Joe at the groundbreaking of the Universal Hip-Hop Museum groundbreaking in front of dirt.

May 22, 2021
@ 10:18 am
By: Jason N. Peters
HIP-HOP LEGENDS ATTEND GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE UNIVERSAL HIP-HOP MUSEUM IN THE BRONX
Universal Hip-Hop Museum Coming to the Bronx

On Thursday, May 20th – multiple rap legends were in the Bronx at the groundbreaking of the Universal Hip-Hop Museum. Nas, LL Cool J, Fat Joe, Lil Kim, Grandmaster Flash, Slick Rick, and many other iconic performers were all in attendance at Bronx Point, which is still being constructed along the Harlem Riverfront. Speakers expressed their gratitude towards the artform that is hip-hop.

LL Cool J noted that although he’s “truly grateful to be a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee… it’s hip-hop first.” Cool J gave perspective to his personal relationship with the genre, “hip-hop made me believe anything was possible, it was the first time I heard young Black men sound empowered.” He continued, “hip-hop is one of those things that gave my life meaning.”

Multiple speakers talked about the importance of having a space to honor and recognize hip-hop artists and their incredible accomplishments. “Hip-hop music came out of oppression, it came out of people suffering, it came out of the Bronx looking like Vietnam – the buildings were blown up. People had to make something out of nothing,” said Fat Joe, a Bronx-native out of Forest Projects. “You can never stop the passion of the people, the poor people – that’s who I stand for no matter,” Fat Joe continued.

The groundbreaking ceremony featured numerous odes to hip-hop as legends of the craft paid homage to the artform. The Universal Hip-Hop Museum is set to open in 2023.

Listen to the Ebro in the Morning Crew talk about the museum at minute 10 of the Ebro in the Morning Podcast. “It’s gonna be beautiful to be able to take your kids (to the museum) and be like ‘look these are pieces of history,” said Laura Stylez.

https://www.hot97.com/hip-hop-news/...or-the-universal-hip-hop-museum-in-the-bronx/

 

[Antwon Mitchell]

NYers embarrass themselves in threads like these every time

Just say yall cool with letting non-blacks call you a nikka to your face because you're too p*say to press em

Stuff like this is what makes being a NYer embarrassing for me because too many Black NYers become docile when dealing with Latinos. I don't care how much clout you've gotten within hip-hop...you ain't calling me no “nikka/ hard er” and think everything is cool...you'll be on the pavement coming at me like that.

@HarlemHottie you've kinda brought shame defending Fat Joe's usage of the hard er. I thought you weren't a c00n but maybe I was wrong hopefully I am but I don't know what to think now

 

[AQz]

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Fat Joe is the furthest thing from a culture vulture.

wouldn’t call him a culture vulture but I’m not and never been cool with his n word use