I'm Sorry But Fat Joe is not a Culture Vulture, AT ALL!

[Formerly Black Trash]

Fat Joe is black man, stop it bro. Just because he Latino don’t he not black. He’s a black Latino.

y’all mad that Joe said bill Cosby could have done something to one of them girls?

yall crazy
Look at his fukking hair

Cardi even said she was in an interracial relationship with Offset

We don't claim him

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Fat Joe is black man, stop it bro. Just because he Latino don’t he not black. He’s a black Latino.

He's afrodescendant for sure but he ain't Afram, and that's the cultural milieu he's operating in, which ultimately, his people are guests in




Fat Joe be getting carried away/doing too much

y’all mad that Joe said bill Cosby could have done something to one of them girls?

IDGAF about bill cosby

 

[Thegospel]

I love threads like this. It exposes the mentality of the majority on here. Full of hate

 

[Blankthawtz]

Lol@ the title change....

 

[kingofnyc]

this line of thinking is simply false...how many quotes from the real pioneers do yall need to hear/read understand that Ricans were outsiders to early hiphop or that ricans and blacks (of the generation that would be into gangs->early hiphop) largely didn't associate with one another in large numbers until the 1980s?

breh - your a solid poster in all : but u ain’t from da Bronx …. so, why would u even make that ridiculous statement

 

[hatealot]

breh - your a solid poster in all : but u ain’t from da Bronx …. so, why would u even make that ridiculous statement

I don't even know why folks from nyc and even the Bronx tale these folks on this site serious when it comes to hip hop, and black and Spanish relationships

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

More People need to read this.

A lot of dudes gotten caught up in the superficial degrading shyt that aint part of the culture, including the excess use of the N-word by blacks and non-blacks. Public Enemy were prophets when people abandoned their pro black paradigm of respect and enlightenment and aligned with the superthug/super street shyt. It bit black people hard in the ass decades later, with non blacks wanting to engage in black dysfunction.

Over the summer, we watched old episodes of Soul Train with the younger folk in the household. They couldn't believe how different the Soul Train dancers were from folks today. Clearest observation: "It's like the black folks from back then were a totally different race of people from the black people today. They speak differently. They're built differently. They carried themselves differently. There appears to be more light in their eyes. Today, there is very little light in people's eyes."

45 years after the heights of Don Cornelius and Soul Train, we now have a bewildered population of folks who somehow believe that the casual use of the n-word is now a form of exclusive Black racial privilege.

Well, at least we have YouTube to help take us back to when it made sense: the Staples Singers on Soul Train:

 

[I'm Blackman]

Y’all know Blck culture is bigger than hip-hop. The two are not solely interchangeable. Fat shoe had originations in hip hop. True. Fat Joe did not grow up in the culture. Black culture includes Black church, black family, black family functions, black habits, black colloquialisms.

Just cause you live around it doesn’t mean you’re apart ofIt. Fat Joe will never know the nuances of being specifically Black. NEVER. Cause he’s not. Simple

Its amazing you have to explain this to people lol.

 

[Illuminatos]

The inferiority complex you clowns have for the Puerto Ricans in NY is pathetic.

 

[Taadow]

not really, OG hiphop pioneers basically called ricans "culture vultures" in real time back in the 1970s. Ricans had to get the black cosign to be officially down with the culture, that's how much they wanted to be down while being shook at the same time

from Ruby Dee (far right)

I’m not talking about any particular group; I’m talking about Fat Joe.

He was there, he paid his dues, and he is Ten Toes Down in this chit called Hip-Hop.
He is a founding member of D.I.T.C. (and you can argue the most successful), and
that’s about as hip-hop as it gets.

 

[HarlemHottie]

This thread is funny to me bc my brother grew up in the same time and place as Joe (loosely, south bx and uptown) and got the same coloring, if not a little lighter cuz my bro shows more red in his complexion. If they stood side by side you might think they related. So I guess non NYers would try to check him too, huh?

Yes, Fat Joe violated calling lil mo and vita dusty , but ppl are trynna bandwagon the issue in a way that's not gonna work out how they think. This ain't Texas and these aint mexicans.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

breh - your a solid poster in all : but u ain’t from da Bronx …. so, why would u even make that ridiculous statement

did you actually wacth that docu?


@ 1:00:43 a black gang member speaking on the relationship with the puerto rican gangs + how that changed after the gang truce and park jams started coming in

1:01:05 he says "you couldn't talk to no puerto rican girls back then, while being black in the south bronx and live! it wasn't happening"





Trac2 (first generation Rican bboy) on the relationship between blacks and ricans prior to the park jams:

"I had black friends in school but once we went home/school ended, they (blacks) went their way and we (ricans) went our way, and we never really socialized together"

 

[IllmaticDelta]

This thread is funny to me bc my brother grew up in the same time and place as Joe (loosely, south bx and uptown) and got the same coloring, if not a little lighter cuz my bro shows more red in his complexion. If they stood side by side you might think they related. So I guess non NYers would try to check him too, huh?

Yes, Fat Joe violated calling lil mo and vita dusty , but ppl are trynna bandwagon the issue in a way that's not gonna work out how they think. This ain't Texas and these aint mexicans.

It's not about phenotype; it's a cultural thing. Even dark skinned Puerto Ricans was looked at as outsiders to ADOS in NYC, which is why these darker ricans hid their heritage to fit in

 

[IllmaticDelta]

breh - your a solid poster in all : but u ain’t from da Bronx …. so, why would u even make that ridiculous statement

dude I was born in the Bronx; my mother was born and raised in the 50s south bronx, her brother was in the black spades and her godmother was a puerto rican

 

[IllmaticDelta]

It's not about phenotype; it's a cultural thing. Even dark skinned Puerto Ricans was looked at as outsiders to ADOS in NYC, which is why these darker ricans hid their heritage to fit in

@HarlemHottie @Cadillac @xoxodede

this touches on phenotype (dark and light skinned ricans trying to fit into afram culture) and culture (mention of herc being a jamaican instead of ADOS)