I'm not really understanding the players' stance on player safety & these lawsuits

[yseJ]

Futbol has the highest workforce worldwide out of all sports

And it's the best sport in the world too

tbh outside of football boxing and maybe hockey, soccer puts a lot of strain on your body. tons of death of players over the last few years due to stopped heart people push past their limits too much in modern soccer to gain a small edge...and that shyt isnt healthy at all.

 

[FTBS]

Coal workers didn't know breathing in ash was bad for them?

People dont' grow up dreaming of being a coal worker. Being a coal worker is generally a job you take when you other options are slim. Almost every NFL player was a scholarship college athlete meaning they had the option of following any career path and they chose football. nikkas going through 3-5 years of college and then CHOOSING to work with coal?

You can't compare the NFL to most other jobs because of the money and status associated with it. Once again the NFL was most certainly wrong for lying about the shyt but at the same time you CHOSE to put your body in peril and took on the risks associated with that in great part due to the money and status that came along with it as well. If we are being all the way real the great majority of the players suing still would have played and still would have played the same way if they hadn't lied so the basis of this lawsuit is clearly all about a cash grab. That said the NFL clearly giveth no fukks and is all about their cash as well so they certainly don't warrant themselves.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Bottom line is that players knew what they signed up for. This whole legal action that former players are fightin the NFL is an obvious money grab. These dudes may have legitimate health problems resulting from football injuries, but personal accountability needs to come in to play. Should the NFL take care of all these OG players medical bills? Yes, I think so, I think the league does hold at least a small dose of responsibility in caring for its workforce and former workforce. I just don't think that former players should get some huge settlment check.

I can guarantee u that if u told any NFL rookie that he may be seriously injured,his brain may be subjected to CTE, he may get multiple concussions, end up on a walker at 55 yrs old, I bet that same player will be like "fucc it, I'm still gonna play" The financial rewards are worth the risks

 

[filial_piety]

It doesn't make sense to anyone but the players themselves.

I don't mention it often, and although getting into the league is extremely tough with minimal chances-- I wanted to pursue to after I finished college. I decided not to because I spoke with a guy who was actually on the Broncos practice squad who told me NOT to do it because of all the life time permenant injuries involved...this was back around 2003-2004. The guy basically said that he had already made a deal with the devil and invested way too much in it to look back now, but if he had the opportunity to start fresh...he wouldn't do it again.

Anyway, my point is that the players whether through doctors, other medical experts, their agents, their parents, other players, girlfriends whatever....are warned about the risks of playing a full contact sport from day 1. This is one of the reasons why they make so much money for playing such a limited number of games.

IMO once you sign on the dotted line, you have agreed to being fully informed with consentual knowledge of all the risks related with the sport.

 

[calh45]

its not fair

Don't even get me started on it. I used to think I was monstrous in high school and lil dude got 3 inches and a hundred pounds on what I was back then. He a smart kid though and wants to do other shyt. Can't hate on that



Being in this thread makes me annoyed though. I had a collision so hard in college my right eye stopped working for a couple minutes.

You think the players didn't know the sport was bad for them?? Seriously??

It was a choice. I knew tons of kids that got hit once in jr high, took off their pads right then and never came back. This ain't the cigarette industry hiding the effects of smoking. The NFL didn't have a clue it would result in this shyt, not because they were being devious, but because honestly no one thought it was a big damn deal. You got wobbly then you felt fine. Deacon Jones is still sharp. Art Shell seems good. Gene Upshaw was cool. Ditka same thing. All the older players had the physical injuries, but none of the real bad mental drawbacks. I think that's why they never took it real seriously.

Edit: I think a small part of this concussion thing is also the highlight culture we have now and coaches abandoning fundamental tackling. Players are launching themselves at RB's with no form or no sense of doing anything other than hitting hard.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

It doesn't make sense to anyone but the players themselves.

I don't mention it often, and although getting into the league is extremely tough with minimal chances-- I wanted to pursue to after I finished college. I decided not to because I spoke with a guy who was actually on the Broncos practice squad who told me NOT to do it because of all the life time permenant injuries involved...this was back around 2003-2004. The guy basically said that he had already made a deal with the devil and invested way too much in it to look back now, but if he had the opportunity to start fresh...he wouldn't do it again.

Anyway, my point is that the players whether through doctors, other medical experts, their agents, their parents, other players, girlfriends whatever....are warned about the risks of playing a full contact sport from day 1. This is one of the reasons why they make so much money for playing such a limited number of games.

IMO once you sign on the dotted line, you have agreed to being fully informed with consentual knowledge of all the risks related with the sport.

U should have at least tried to play after college bruh. If u really love football, u will try to play that shyt until u are physiclly unable to play thegame. One of my homies was on he broncos from 02-05 and the broncos payed him very well for a few years. The rewards are worth the risk

 

[filial_piety]

U should have at least tried to play after college bruh. If u really love football, u will try to play that shyt until u are physiclly unable to play thegame. One of my homies was on he broncos from 02-05 and the broncos payed him very well for a few years. The rewards are worth the risk

Man football was my heart back then, but I couldn't do it. In order for me to be conditioned, I would have had to attend camps year around and pay thousands of dollars for a marginal shot--it wasn't worth it to me.

And to be honest, I never regretted it. When I see dudes like anyone from Earl Campbell, to Rickey Watters, to Meril Hodge, to Jerome Bettisto Jim McMahon and Junior Seau, I just don't think it's worth it. And those guys are just a few of the famous ones--all those guys have aged like 30 years after the league.

I even looked up the average life span of a NFL players a while back...I think it was somewhere in the 50s or 60s. It doesn't discount the years by positions but it's pretty believable because the overexhaust of the body can take a toll on you; not to mention all the foreign substances that you have to absorb and depend on until the day you die. I even once read that Troy Aikman wakes up in pain everyday, and Deion Sanders feet are tore the hell up-the man can barely walk. lol.

Shyt, they have to pay you, because you can't do shyt else lol.

I'm cool on that...I'll try to make my money like the white guys are doing--either through finance or software.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Man football was my heart back then, but I couldn't do it. In order for me to be conditioned, I would have had to attend camps year around and pay thousands of dollars for a marginal shot--it wasn't worth it to me.

And to be honest, I never regretted it. When I see dudes like anyone from Earl Campbell, to Rickey Watters, to Meril Hodge, to Jerome Bettisto Jim McMahon and Junior Seau, I just don't think it's worth it. And those guys are just a few of the famous ones--all those guys have aged like 30 years after the league.

I even looked up the average life span of a NFL players a while back...I think it was somewhere in the 50s or 60s. It doesn't discount the years by positions but it's pretty believable because the overexhaust of the body can take a toll on you; not to mention all the foreign substances that you have to absorb and depend on until the day you die. I even once read that Troy Aikman wakes up in pain everyday, and Deion Sanders feet are tore the hell up-the man can barely walk. lol.

Shyt, they have to pay you, because you can't do shyt else lol.

I'm cool on that...I'll try to make my money like the white guys are doing--either through finance or software.

I respect that. Football can take years off your life

 

[The_Sheff]

It doesn't make sense to anyone but the players themselves.

I don't mention it often, and although getting into the league is extremely tough with minimal chances-- I wanted to pursue to after I finished college. I decided not to because I spoke with a guy who was actually on the Broncos practice squad who told me NOT to do it because of all the life time permenant injuries involved...this was back around 2003-2004. The guy basically said that he had already made a deal with the devil and invested way too much in it to look back now, but if he had the opportunity to start fresh...he wouldn't do it again.

Anyway, my point is that the players whether through doctors, other medical experts, their agents, their parents, other players, girlfriends whatever....are warned about the risks of playing a full contact sport from day 1. This is one of the reasons why they make so much money for playing such a limited number of games.

IMO once you sign on the dotted line, you have agreed to being fully informed with consentual knowledge of all the risks related with the sport.

The point of the suits is that the players weren't fully informed. The NFL had info they withheld from the players.

 

[Houston911]

My son is playing basketball

 

[threattonature]

Here's where I side with the players. Yes players knew some of the risks while apparently the NFL knew a lot more of them. To use the factory worker example from earlier. Someone being a factory worker may know they may know going in that they will fukk up their back and have early onset arthritis. They may weigh that risk and think it's worth the financial compensation. Now let's say that the owners of the factory know that breathing in fumes from the factory can take 20 years off the worker's lives and withheld that information. To me that is completely wrong and fukked up and I would fully expect that factory owner to be sued.

If the NFL had these advanced studies showing the long term effects of football and withheld the information they are in the wrong. The players should be presented with all the information in regards to ALL the dangers of playing the sport, weigh the pros and cons, and then if they still decide to go forward as most would then that blame is on the player.

So yeah if the NFL withheld information I would definitely sue.