I'm not from Detroit, Europe or a Homosexual... why should I care about House music?

[MarrieGotBandzzz]

Bruh a lot of house djs are black

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

They wish

Wish what?

 

[FeverPitch2]

He partially right. House music was born/inspired by gay black djs/clubs in Chicago through Frankie Knuckles and Ron Hardy






NYC Garage was influenced by another gay: Larry Levan




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but most of the people who actually pioneered House music as an outgrowth of those influences, were mainly straight.

Gay DJs definitely played a role in house music, but they didn't create the music.
Nor was it "born" in gay clubs.
Gay dudes listened to and danced to the same music that everybody else did.
The records that Larry, Frankie, and Ron played were the same records that everybody else played.
I know the LGBT loves to hangs their hat on that and no one wants to come across as not giving them credit, so they've just rolled with that narrative.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Gay DJs definitely played a role in house music, but they didn't create the music.
Nor was it "born" in gay clubs.

The musical stew for House was born in gay black clubs by gay black djs in Chicago



^^the owner of the WareHouse and Music Box who also brought Frankie Knuckles from NY's gay underground scene, to Chicago

Like The Loft, the original Warehouse was membership-only and alcohol-free. Regular attendees packed the halls, wanting to partake in the increasingly popular parties which could see up to 450 dancers at a given time. There were three levels: reception upstairs, downstairs, and an additional basement party as well. There was a custom lighting and sound system. The Warehouse was a juice bar, so no alcohol was served. The parties only happened on Saturday nights through to Sunday afternoons. Although originally populated by a black, gay majority, Williams was eager to create an open, diversified space. “The Warehouse was predominantly gay,” Williams recalled. “But some of the heterosexual members came and wanted to become guests. So the membership grew, which was a good thing. It taught Chicagoans how to network interracially. The more you attended, the more you became part of a family.”

The Warehouse: The gay club where house music got its name - Blog | Splice

Our LGBTQ+ Pride Month celebration continues with an exploration of the Warehouse, a club in Chicago that birthed house music.

splice.com

white female member, describing the Warehouse lol

Gay dudes listened to and danced to the same music that everybody else did.
The records that Larry, Frankie, and Ron played were the same records that everybody else played.
I know the LGBT loves to hangs their hat on that and no one wants to come across as not giving them credit, so they've just rolled with that narrative.

The records/musical stew they played WAS NOT normally played in Chicago before the gay black djs brought that vibe out. All black djs played Disco records but people like Frankie, Levan and Hardy were stripping it down and bringing in the drum machines/electronics and making newer types of sounds through edits

 

[BulletProof]

It's okay he had writers but this is what makes him a disgrace to Hip Hop?

Who gives a fukk?

 

[FeverPitch2]

The musical stew for House was born in gay black clubs by gay black djs in Chicago

youtube.com/watch?v=IpnMubNQVX8&ab_channel=MUSICANDPOWER

^^the owner of the WareHouse and Music Box who also brought Frankie Knuckles from NY's gay underground scene, to Chicago

The Warehouse: The gay club where house music got its name - Blog | Splice

Our LGBTQ+ Pride Month celebration continues with an exploration of the Warehouse, a club in Chicago that birthed house music.

splice.com

white female member, describing the Warehouse lol






The records/musical stew they played WAS NOT normally played in Chicago before the gay black djs brought that vibe out. All black djs played Disco records but people like Frankie, Levan and Hardy were stripping it down and bringing in the drum machines/electronics and making newer types of sounds through edits

So you repeated the time worn narrative and bolded the font.
So, what records were being played in Chicago dance clubs in 1977?
Or even in New York where FK is from?
When FK and Larry were playing the Continental Baths in the mid-70's, wouldn't that "musical stew" pre-date FK's arrival in Chicago?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

So you repeated the time worn narrative and bolded the font.
So, what records were being played in Chicago dance clubs in 1977?
Or even in New York where FK is from?

They played classic disco music like salsoul/philly soul and even the stuff that came later on West End Records like



and Patrick Adams on prelude







but in Chicago black djs started getting a hold of drum machines/synth instruments and doing stripped down mixes



this musical stew would later influences the kids/teens that actually made the early house records

When FK and Larry were playing the Continental Baths in the mid-70's, wouldn't that "musical stew" pre-date FK's arrival in Chicago?

yes, those NYC djs shaped what we now consider Disco; Levan definitely shaped what would become NY/Jersey Garage, while Knuckles brought the Disco sound to Chicago and from there, Ron Hardy would shape (more than Knuckles) what would become Chicago House

Boyd Jarvis

A synthesizer and organ player, as well as a radio and club DJ, Jarvis was a native of East Orange, New Jersey. He began hitting New York clubs as an early-Seventies teen, when there was little separation musically between the nascent disco and hip-hop scenes, and he cited Larry Levan, Tee Scott, Nicky Siano, Grandmaster Flowers, and Pete “DJ” Jones as favorite DJs.

^^ this overlaps with some real early chi-town house

Credited to Visual and issued the following year on Prelude, its plangent feel and simple patterns are a clear precedent for the Windy City’s recombinant cheapo disco, and it precedes the first Chicago house records by a year.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Alot of early new york hip hop and most of Southern hip hop used house elements in their music..

Its an essential part of hip hop

And Go-Go but not many people realize that

 

[FeverPitch2]

They played classic disco music like salsoul/philly soul and even the stuff that came later on West End Records like



and Patrick Adams on prelude







but in Chicago black djs started getting a hold of drum machines/synth instruments and doing stripped down mixes



this musical stew would later influences the kids/teens that actually made the early house records







yes, those NYC djs shaped what we now consider Disco; Levan definitely shaped what would become NY/Jersey Garage, while Knuckles brought the Disco sound to Chicago and from there, Ron Hardy would shape (more than Knuckles) what would become Chicago House

Boyd Jarvis

^^ this overlaps with some real early chi-town house

This stuff is all common knowledge for me.
You're not talking to an outsider. Like, not at all.
But I digress.

Larry and Frankie were playing disco and R&B records, like everybody else in New York.
They weren't the first in New York to play records outside of that format in a set, or even being experimental.
You had Bambaataa dropping rock records into his set in the mid-70's and ppl diggin it.
Some of the most popular hip-hop breaks are from rock records like Big Beat, Long Red, and the original Walk This Way
Electronic music was budding in the late 70's worldwide.
From Kraftwerk dropping Tran Europe Express in 77 and Yellow Magic Orchestra from Japan dropping Firecracker in 1978, to Italo disco.
Detroit dropped Sharevari in 81 and Cosmic Cars in 82.

Prior to Larry and Frankie, you had David Mancuso and Nicky Siano in NYC.
Frankie came to Chicago in 77 playing the same stuff that was bring played in NYC.
The difference is Chicago is very segregated and even moreso then.
What Robert Williams did differently was cater to a Black audience.
Frankie didn't make a record until 1986.
Jesse Saunders made what is considered the "first" house record in 1984.
Your narrative about "gay musical stew" is all over the place.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Larry and Frankie were playing disco and R&B records, like everybody else in New York.

They played that with the inclusion of drum machines and more synthy stuff that OTHER black djs never played

They weren't the first in New York to play records outside of that format in a set, or even being experimental.
You had Bambaataa dropping rock records into his set in the mid-70's and ppl diggin it.

Baambatta was focused on the breakbeats of funk, when he experimented with electronic music it was the electro of Kraftwerk not Electronic Disco of Moroder or the post-disco style of Kashif which is how the song "Planet Rock" was born

Some of the most popular hip-hop breaks are from rock records like Big Beat, Long Red, and the original Walk This Way
Electronic music was budding in the late 70's worldwide.
From Kraftwerk dropping Tran Europe Express in 77 and Yellow Magic Orchestra from Japan dropping Firecracker in 1978, to Italo disco.
Detroit dropped Sharevari in 81 and Cosmic Cars in 82.

see above

Prior to Larry and Frankie, you had David Mancuso and Nicky Siano in NYC.
Frankie came to Chicago in 77 playing the same stuff that was bring played in NYC.
The difference is Chicago is very segregated and even moreso then.
What Robert Williams did differently was cater to a Black audience.
Frankie didn't make a record until 1986.

he had live mixes before that, that he and Ron hardy were doing that gave the musical stew of stripped down disco the club going teens would later base their sound off

Jesse Saunders made what is considered the "first" house record in 1984.
Your narrative about "gay musical stew" is all over the place.

I didn't say "gay musical stew" I said, "the musical stew of gay black djs"

 

[Yaboysix]

haven’t heard NONE of drake nowhere … only heard the big frieda part in the beginning of Beyoncé new song on here and cut it off…


Yeah, I’m good on ballroom music.

 

[FeverPitch2]

They played that with with the inclusion of drum machines and more synthy stuff that OTHER black djs never played





Baambatta was was focused on breakbeats of funk, when he experimented with electronic music it was the electro of Kraftwerk not Electronic Disco of Moroder or the post-disco style of Kashif which is how the song "Planet Rock" was born







he had live mixes before that, that he and Ron hardy were doing that gave the musical stew of stripped down disco the club going teens would later base their sound off



I didn't say "gay musical stew" I said, "the musical stew of gay black djs"

You're confusing electronic music with boogie.
Planet Rock predates Kashif's first record by a year.
Aight den.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You're confusing electronic music with boogie.

boogie is electronic music but mixed with trad instruments, it just wasn't pure 4/4 with a hissing hi-hat like Disco

Boogie Monster

Kashif infused synthesizers into R&B, taking the post-disco genre into a modern boogie wonderland.

www.waxpoetics.com

Planet Rock predates Kashif's first record by a year.
Aight den.

Planet Rock is before the first official boogie track, although synthy R&B/Funk existed prior to it. What I really was pointing out was how the mixture of disco and electronics of House was totally different from the mixture of Electronics and Funk that gave way to Bam's "Planet Rock". Boogie music is more influential to House music than the stiff Electro element that influenced Planet Rock

But Kashif was never going to settle for being a backroom toiler. Alongside that pioneering production work, he developed a solo career. His self-titled debut LP in 1983, contained I Just Gotta Have You (Lover Turn Me On), which helped define the early 80s boogie sound. Disco had died a protracted death in the late 70s, the result of major labels pushing it towards the white mainstream and away from its subversive origins. Boogie, however, slowed and refined the key elements of disco, revitalising it for the 80s audience. Through combining the bass-heavy instrumentation of disco with a minimal injection of proto-electronic drum machine and synthesiser, boogie provided a bridge to the later sounds of electro and house

Cult heroes: Kashif – inspirational pioneer of boogie and R&B

A brilliantly innovative producer, the late Kashif revitalised post-disco pop with his spacious, synth-based sound – and made Whitney Houston a superstar

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

And Go-Go but not many people realize that

Facts. Hell New Jack Swing wouldn’t have come into existence if it weren’t for GoGo and House music.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Facts. Hell New Jack Swing wouldn’t have come into existence if it weren’t for GoGo and House music.

Yup. Trouble Funk was sampled a lot back in the day