I’m not even Haitian but this fake story and how conservatives and right wing politicians just went all in on the Haitian community got me fukked up.

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1/11
@kdnerak33
Haitian migrants began arriving in Springfield in 2018 when Trump was President.



2/11
@mortenbc58
And nobody "dropped" them. They simply moved there with the opportunity of jobs and housing



3/11
@kdnerak33
Exactly, and by many accounts, they revitalized a declining city.



4/11
@theangriestbuni
I seriously am beginning to think he’s trying to lose the election.



5/11
@kdnerak33
Operation Keep Him Talking is going swimmingly.



6/11
@thedesertginger
According to the census, there are only about 5000 Haitians in all of Ohio.



7/11
@kdnerak33
They exaggerate the numbers and create the rumors because they’re racist. Plain and simple.



8/11
@BlueWav_24
Of course, and don't forget...



9/11
@CrazyFenaker
And crime, property and violent crime, in Springfield was actually worse in the early 2010s than after the Haitians arrived. Blaming them for a high crime rate in a dying rustbelt city is insanely misleading.



10/11
@imamandajo
Yeah, when they started that bullshyt I noticed several articles say they settled here about 5 years ago and then I noticed no MAGA apparently did the math on that lol.



11/11
@ColoradoCD4
There are also only 5K of them in all of Ohio, a house of cards:

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Far-right movements have been using Springfield, Ohio as a propaganda tool since early 2023.

There aren’t 20,000 Haitian immigrants there
in fact, there are barely 5,000 in the entire state.

The level of cognitive dissonance required for this narrative is staggering.

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1/18
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Far-right movements have been using Springfield, Ohio as a propaganda tool since early 2023.

There aren’t 20,000 Haitian immigrants there
in fact, there are barely 5,000 in the entire state.

The level of cognitive dissonance required for this narrative is staggering.

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2/18
@ellim992
The Census Bureau ACS lists the Haitian-born population in Ohio as 5,264 as of July 7, 2023.

This is the most recent and reliable data.

These groups have been claiming that there are 20,000 to 70,000 Haitians in just Springfield since May 2023.

https://data.census.gov/table/ACSDT1Y2023.B05006?q=Place of Birth&g=040XX00US39&y=2023

2/



3/18
@ellim992
The Springfield City School District posts their enrollment online.

This week, their head count is 7,415.

Huge increase from last year, right?

Except not... The district is still below pre-pandemic levels. They had 7,716 students in 2020.

https://education.ohio.gov/Topics/Data/Frequently-Requested-Data/Enrollment-Data

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4/18
@ellim992
Annual head count for Springfield City School District on those files -

2024: 7,415
2023: 7,227
2022: 7,107
2021: 7,099
2020: 7,716
2019: 7,551
2018: 7,661
2017: 7,759

Take a look at the data tables yourself.

4/



5/18
@ellim992
Again, the ACS lists the July 2023 population of people born in Haiti living in Ohio as 5,264.

Vital statistics show 599 births in 2023 to mothers born in Haiti

472 in 2024.

Birth trends aren’t linear, but even assuming linear increase, that’s a max of ~700 births.

5/



6/18
@ellim992
For deaths, CDC Wonder won't let you search by country of origin, but search by race categories:

Through August 2024, there's been 29 deaths among Black Hispanic Ohiohans.

2023: 62

2022: 45

2021: 59

Fact check if you want to, it's public data.
https://wonder.cdc.gov/natality-expanded-provisional.html

6/



7/18
@ellim992
You cannot tell me that a population of immigrants has grown 4x it's size in a year, and their death rate has not increased?

(especially a population that is supposedly sucking up health resources?)

7/



8/18
@ellim992
These 15,000-25,000 Hatian immigrants beyond what the Census lists?

They're not dying,
they're not having extra babies,
they're not in the schools?

Where are they? The Haitian population ~doubled in recent years.

1,934 Haitian Immigrants lived in the entire state in 2021.

8/



9/18
@ellim992
In 2022, ACS listed 5,442 people born in Haiti in Ohio.

In 2023, ACS listed 5,264 people.

This is fake. And bad journalism.

Especailly since they've been making up this number for a year now - and we have the data for the ACTUAL population when this rumor started.

9/



10/18
@ellim992
The media is moving quickly on this and not fact checking. The initial report of "20,000-30,000" is linked to a Heritage-affiliated anti-immigration think-tank that writes a lot about brown immigrants.

(Somehow Ukraine is fine?)

10/



11/18
@ellim992
Bottom line:

Folks are choosing to believe and spread any of these lies 🐈🐕🦆 because it fits their racist narrative.

Inventing a massive population surge of immigrants is just to serve this. It isn't about facts for them, it's about targeting communities of color.

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12/18
@ellim992
@Reuters should really show us where they got this graph:

Because the state medicaid dashboard shows another story about enrollment.



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Clark County, Ohio Medicaid Enrolled Population Totals from August 2023 to August 2024, from the state Medicaid enrollment dashboard.

Black population Medicaid enrolled totals in Clark County, Ohio, August 2023 to August 2024:
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medicaid.ohio.gov/stakeholde…


13/18
@ellim992
"Well, the Reuters graph could still be true if people are dying or moving at the same rate as Haitian immigrants are moving in?"

"Maybe 4000 people died or moved out and 4000 Haitian immigrants moved in?"

Nope. Here's all resident deaths for Clark County, Ohio

13/



14/18
@ellim992
Hey @JuddLegum @ItsDocumented @RonFilipkowski

I think a FOIA request is in order for what the Clark County, Ohio government said to the press - and who.

What I initially believed just a rumor that accidentally got picked up as offical, looks a lot worse with graphs.



15/18
@ellim992
(little apology: sorry Judd and Ron I didn't mean to attach you to this thread.... just tag you.
I guess you'll see it. 😬)



16/18
@ellim992
@DaveYostOH Ohio AG Dave Yost ignores stats provided by Springfield and Clark County officials.
There’s NO basis for "1/4 to 1/3" of Springfield being new immigrants — no data backs this.
He is simply inciting violence against his own constituents.



17/18
@ellim992
Folks, the numbers from the City of Springfield are clear: 12,000 - 15,000 total immigrants in the entire county.
That's not Haitian immigrants, that's not just the immigrants in Springfield. Media keeps linking to this while claiming 12-15k. Can you see how this happened?



18/18
@ellim992
Clark County, Ohio has 136,000 people. The city estimates 9-11% of the county is foreign-born.
14.3% of the U.S. population is foreign-born, and 52% are naturalized citizens.
Clark County, Ohio foreign-born population is lower than the national average.

https://springfieldohio.gov/immigration-faqs/




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No, this is not the Trump campaign's hail marry. They used that Haitian story before and after the debate. They went into hyperdrive after the debate with the story to make the headlines all about Haitians eating household pets.

That has been the talk of the country for the past few days, not Trump's poor debate performance.

I peeped that too that's why Kamala team wanted another debate right away but they duckin like bytches. They knew she out debated him but he got the soundbites, most of the meme viral Tiktok short attention span clips, moments, closin statement and he just naturally much more charismatic than her so most clips I seen was off him

I still don't get this Haitian narrative and doublin down for em though. From what I've seen most people have called em out on it even seen a bunch of cacs talkin positively bout Haitian people they know and callin this whole shyt the disgustin circus it is. So I don't get it.... Who the fukk is fallin for it they just wanna attract more racist already? They were already votin for him anyway it's bizarre so what's the point of makin this a talkin point all a sudden?
 

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I peeped that too that's why Kamala team wanted another debate right away but they duckin like bytches. They knew she out debated him but he got the soundbites, most of the meme viral Tiktok short attention span clips, moments, closin statement and he just naturally much more charismatic than her so most clips I seen was off him

I still don't get this Haitian narrative and doublin down for em though. From what I've seen most people have called em out on it even seen a bunch of cacs talkin positively bout Haitian people they know and callin this whole shyt the disgustin circus it is. So I don't get it.... Who the fukk is fallin for it they just wanna attract more racist already? They were already votin for him anyway it's bizarre so what's the point of makin this a talkin point all a sudden?
They want ppl to die
 

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You're supposed to be educated, "I'm not even on twitter" isn't an excuse for posting right-wing white supremacist sites. Do better.








Yes, this mythological "political capital" you're in danger of losing if you act like a consistent human being who disagrees with white supremacy. :mjlol:

You don't even realize that you've lost WAY more political capital with the way you've cosigned right-wing lies and said absolute fake bullshyt about Kamala and immigrants since this election started than you would have lost siding with other Black people who have almost imperceptibly different ancestriees than yourself. The average ADOS Black and the average American CDOS Black has the exact same genetics, came to the New World the exact same way, experienced the exact same kind of slavery, and now lives in the same country where white people treat them the same way. Yet you want to split hairs because the internet told you to.

Doesn't your best friend have an immigrant background? What happened to you?
Ether.
 

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Ohio Senator JD Vance has abused his position as US Senator, admitting he spread racist lies.

Vance has falsely accused immigrants in Springfield, Ohio of killing and eating pets - an outrageous accusation that has incited bomb threats and threats of violence.

Bomb threats have closed schools and paralyzed local government. The Proud Boys are openly marching, and the Ku Klux Klan is distributing flyers demanding "Foreigners and Haitians Out."

Vance admitted to “creating stories” - that is, lying.

The Senate must not tolerate a member calling for racist violence.
 

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Trump campaign really prepared to die on this hill. This is really their hail Mary for the election

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control. Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”





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1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control. Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”





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The link is pretty direct....Trump has been flat out using bigotry, racism, & hate as a calling card openly for the last 8 years. He fanned the flames and is now being burnt in a house on fire. The nerve of his supporters to call for decorum when he and them have never utilized it shows their lack of empathy and sociopathy.

Call it God or karma or whatever, but Trump spending a week putting Haitians lives in harms way only to have another attempt on his life feels like the universe at work and I'll just leave it at that.
 

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1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control. Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”





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