I'm confused, why does nobody care about the citywide death and destruction in Godzilla or Xmen?

[AllHolosEve]

Bottom line if Lex Luthor had held a press conference at the end of the movie and said that Superman was dangerous and shouldn't be trusted there was plenty to point to in the movie to say he was right.

they actually shoulda did this breh... after credits scene showin lex on the tv givin the speech & supes watchin like i gotta do better...

 

[Soundwave]

Stop deconstructing movies, Ed

C/S like a mug. nikka, Godzilla was getting CHEERED BY THE CITY as he woke up, stomped on a few more hundred folks, and dipped

Man of Steel is lacking to me, but not because him and Zod when DBZ on Metropolis.

Remember as he walked out at the end there was a news report calling him the city's savior?

I hope the sequel is a political thriller where Godzilla runs for mayor of San Francisco ... I imagine him wearing a tie at the mayoral debates and just roaring all the time

Better question was how Angel Grove was destroyed every week by ritas monsters and yet people still lived there and still kept rebulding with the equivalent of 9/11 happening every few days. No EBS is that good where people could flee that fast. Millions died over the course of Power Rangers breh

 

[Kartel13]

I swear the either coli attention skills are terrible or you're being disingenuous

Winter Soldier:
The plan was to crash the carriers over the shield facility, not the great D.C. area. Any other plan would've meant those ships would've gotten in ranged to start killing civilians. Hydra started all the fire fights in the movie and they werent in area crowd with civilians. The closet to what you're referring to is the bridge scene were all the civilians left the area and they werent anywhere near the line of fire.

Avengers:

Cap especially gave every single member battle plans to account for civilians. Thor kept pressure on the portal, Ironman herded and kept the swarm in the general area and Hulk's fukk shyt up. They actually took the time acknowledge that civilians were in danger and that sentiment carried on to how the Avengers responded to Shield's nuke. Even without all that shyt, there was news report montage of survivors giving witness accounts of how an Avenger save them that day.

Where were Clark's stan giving shouts on tv? Who did Clark go out of his way to save that day Lois?

The moment Clark found out Zod was attack metropolis, this lame flies to the other side of the world. What was his plan? "If it takes both terraformers to terraform the Earth, I'll shut down the one in the ocean first while the army takes out the other one. You guys can handle Zod and that infinitely superior Alien technology rite, brb "

Or how about the fact that Clark, being Zod's primary target the majority of the fight, decided to brawl Zod in a Metropolis instead of taking the fight somewhere else. But this Clark is a noob hero though

My favorite scene of the film is when Zod knocks Clark in to outer space and Clark bodyslams him right back into metropolis. But that isnt Clarks fault, the Earth is too big to aim for another section to land in.

Oh and hold dark live action films to the same standards you hold cartoons to, brehs.

lmao @ this agenda filled rant. How about Captain America sending the hulk to "Smash" with zero fukks given about the civilians? Hulk ran through an office filled with innocent civilians again, with zero fukks given. Maybe Cap, to appease stupid uppity fukks like you, should have sent hulk on his way home because we all concerned with the damage he would of created? Or should have Cap sent the hulk to a farm or open field to protect the innocent civlians?

And let's not forget the part where Thor comes and snatches Loki and flies away to who knows where only to have Cap, who doesn't even fly, show up just moments after to tell them to chill.

And I loved the Avengers but I'm not worked up over destruction and civilians or other minor shyt that you fools like to nitpick about. I paid to see that shyt.

 

[Kartel13]

they actually shoulda did this breh... after credits scene showin lex on the tv givin the speech & supes watchin like i gotta do better...

That's the entire theme of the second film. Lex and Bats have beef with Supes fuking shyt up.

 

[AllHolosEve]

That's the entire theme of the second film. Lex and Bats have beef with Supes fuking shyt up.

i know that, im talkin about all these dudes sayin supes aint show no sympathy or development by the end & i agree, that just coulda laid some foundation for the second flick, have lex talk shyt then supes like ima change...

they gon do it at the beginnin of the next flick but it coulda been done wit a 2min cut scene instead of wastin time in the sequel...

 

[Spaceman Piff]

i loved watching metropolis get fukked up in mos..


superman moves the first fight from the kent farm to main st smallville. he couldn't find some field to fight on in kansas?


but still.. that destruction

 

[Jello Biafra]

I don't even want to get into the fact that he shouldn't have survived let alone won any of the fights he had if he is just a rookie as you are throwing out there when he was up against multiple trained soldiers too strong for him to control the fights.

So now you have a problem with the well worn trope of the overmatched hero coming out on top against all odds too?
You must not enjoy very many books, movies or tv shows.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I agree with that but I'd argue that for this particular iteration of the character, he isn't that guy yet; he has to learn to be that guy as opposed to just coming out fully formed. Even the superman we know him to be in the comics now wasn't fully formed that way but he became that way over time and growth

In Batman Begins after Batman tears apart through the city in the tumbler, Alfred gives him a talking to about how he needs to be more responsible. "It's a miracle no one was kiled....", etc. etc. etc. The movie made a fine point to illustrate that Bruce was still learning and that he he had yet to perfect the craft.

Meanwhile when Superman returns with Lois and stands atop a barren wasteland, that dumb reporter bytch actually had the nerve to say "He saved us..."...

... right before Superman and Lois share in a passionate (or should I say passionless) kiss.

Superman's feats are celebrated in the movie.

I'm sure Clark wasn't a fully seasoned veteran on his first day but to tell a story where he indirectly causes the deaths of thousands of people during his first outing as Superman is ridiculous. Especially in a movie where the character is being touted as a savior of humanity.

 

[chico25]

So now you have a problem with the well worn trope of the overmatched hero coming out on top against all odds too?
You must not enjoy very many books, movies or tv shows.

I don't have a problem with it most of the time but once people start using it as an excuse to cover for other problems with a movie they can't admit wasn't as good as they claim, it becomes just another thing that's hard to accept about the movie. Nobody questions John Mcclane winning in Die Hard because it's a good overall movie but people keep bringing up how Jor El and Clark beat Zod because it's one more thing in the list of reasons the movie doesn't work.

 

[wire28]

Gotta love how he leads Zod away from his mother by throwing him straight into the center of Smallville instead of you know, all the miles upon miles of farming fields where collateral damage would be kept minimum.

nikkas safer in the hood than around superman

the hood like nah clark, we good, you can stay out in metropolis fukkin shyt up

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I don't have a problem with it most of the time but once people start using it as an excuse to covrr for other problems with a movie they can't admit wasn't as good as they claim, it becomes just another thing thats hard to accept about the movie. Nobody questions John Mcclane winning in Die Hard because it's a good overall movie but people keep bringing up how Jor El and Clark beat Zod because it's one more thing in the list of reasons the movie doesn't work.

You won't get anywhere with a post like this because with all due respect if someone liked the movie then we can assume it did work for them.

It might not have worked for you or I but we can't just project those feelings onto the movie as if they were proven facts. No matter how poorly made, no matter how boring, no matter how nonsensical I thought MOS was... the fact is there are people out there that enjoyed it and I just have to accept that. There's no use fighting over it. There's movies out there for everyone.

But on the flip side, it's even MORE ridiculous to assume that those of us that didn't enjoy the movie didn't enjoy it for reasons not having anything to do with the movie itself. I mean god forbid any of us were just bored out of our minds...nah, it has to be because of some hidden agenda or some dumb shyt like that.

 

[chico25]

You won't get anywhere with a post like this because with all due respect if someone liked the movie then we can assume it did work for them.

It might not have worked for you or I but we can't just project those feelings onto the movie as if they were proven facts. No matter how poorly made, no matter how boring, no matter how nonsensical I thought MOS was... the fact is there are people out there that enjoyed it and I just have to accept that. There's no use fighting over it. There's movies out there for everyone.

But on the flip side, it's even MORE ridiculous to assume that those of us that didn't enjoy the movie didn't enjoy it for reasons not having anything to do with the movie itself. I mean god forbid any of us were just bored out of our minds...nah, it has to be because of some hidden agenda or some dumb shyt like that.

You're probably right and I tend to stay out of discussion like this because I know I can't change someone's opinipn but the ridiculous comparisons made in this thread baited me in.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I don't have a problem with it most of the time but once people start using it as an excuse to covrr for other problems with a movie they can't admit wasn't as good as they claim, it becomes just another thing thats hard to accept about the movie. Nobody questions John Mcclane winning in Die Hard because it's a good overall movie but people keep bringing up how Jor El and Clark beat Zod because it's one more thing in the list of reasons the movie doesn't work.

If the inexperienced hero of a movie being victorious in the end against seemingly insurmountable odds is what you consider as a reason a movie doesn't work then i have nothing else to say to you because you and I have diametrically opposite viewpoints when it comes to watching movies.
Was Man of Steel perfect? No but shyt like collateral damage and the bad guys being defeated are not valid criticisms of it; that is just nitpicky movie nerd shyt. Bad pacing and confusing editing at some points? Those are legit criticisms.

 

[chico25]

If the inexperienced hero of a movie being victorious in the end against seemingly insurmountable odds is what you consider as a reason a movie doesn't work then i have nothing else to say to you because you and I have diametrically opposite viewpoints when it comes to watching movies.
Was Man of Steel perfect? No but shyt like collateral damage and the bad guys being defeated are not valid criticisms of it; that is just nitpicky movie nerd shyt. Bad pacing and confusing editing at some points? Those are legit criticisms.

The collateral damage and unreal fight outcomes aren't the main problems with the movie, they are just easier to notice and put into words for non film experts. The damage is also the topic of this thread. These problems becone all the more glaring when you have the issues with pacing, editing and mischaracterization of well known characters that cause story problems throughout the film. I've already said my biggest problem with the movie is that the story isn't told effectively to show this rookie Superman that is on the road to become the Superman we all know.

 

[NormanConnors]

Some of you dumb nikkas didn't pay attention during Man of Steel and I've explained it a hundred times on here. Go back and watch. Superman isn't throwing Zod through buildings.. Zod takes the action to the middle of the city and is actually throwing Superman through shyt.. There's nothing Superman could have really done differently. Zod is a fukking kryptonian war god.

nikkas will nitpick the dumbest shyt.

just more so supports that Supes should not have gotten the W over Zod at that particular time .

i think it's a given/assumed that there are civilian casualties in these instances, they die all the time in the comics