I'm confused, why does nobody care about the citywide death and destruction in Godzilla or Xmen?

[Jello Biafra]

The collateral damage and unreal fight outcomes aren't the main problems with the movie, they are just easier to notice and put into words for non film experts. The damage is also the topic of this thread. These problems becone all the more glaring when you have the issues with pacing, editing and mischaracterization of well known characters that cause story problems throughout the film. I've already said my biggest problem with the movie is that the story isn't told effectively to show this rookie Superman that is on the road to become the Superman we all know.

You can't point to mischaracterization on an adaptation of a character that has been in existence for 75 years and has been portrayed to have all manner of different personality traits.
Even going into the movie assuming that the character should act a certain way and then being disappointed when he doesn't is more a reflection on your unrealistic expectations than any fault of the film.
The basic character traits of Superman were there: super-powered alien who helps people. And nothing in that movie precludes him eventually becoming the Dudley Do Right in tights that most people expect him to be.
It would be like saying the Marvel movies suck because Tony Stark acts more like the Ultimate version than the 616 version of the character or that Captain America is more the classic 616 version instead of the Ultimate version or that Hawkeye is not Hawkeye by any stretch of the imagination in the films. As long as the core of the characters remain then the adaptation is free to take them in whatever direction is necessary to tell the story.

 

[MartyMcFly]

In Batman Begins after Batman tears apart through the city in the tumbler, Alfred gives him a talking to about how he needs to be more responsible. "It's a miracle no one was kiled....", etc. etc. etc. The movie made a fine point to illustrate that Bruce was still learning and that he he had yet to perfect the craft.

Meanwhile when Superman returns with Lois and stands atop a barren wasteland, that dumb reporter bytch actually had the nerve to say "He saved us..."...

... right before Superman and Lois share in a passionate (or should I say passionless) kiss.

Superman's feats are celebrated in the movie.

I'm sure Clark wasn't a fully seasoned veteran on his first day but to tell a story where he indirectly causes the deaths of thousands of people during his first outing as Superman is ridiculous. Especially in a movie where the character is being touted as a savior of humanity.

I can get with that breh. But I think that's a plot point of the sequel so we'll see how it unfolds. Things are a lot more serialized now than they were on 05 when batman begins dropped. So a lot of times I'm sure directors and writers leave stuff out just to handle it in the second or third movie.

 

[chico25]

But they still told the story poorly.

 

[duncanthetall]

There is literally no other way this shyt goes down, you fukkface nikkas. LOL. I mean, are we seriously acting like super hero fights don't go down in the middle of cities all the goddamn time. I mean, usually the fight just goes down. I really don't know why people are trying to be so picky about it when it comes to this movie.

 

[chico25]

I can get with that breh. But I think that's a plot point of the sequel so we'll see how it unfolds. Things are a lot more serialized now than they were on 05 when batman begins dropped. So a lot of times I'm sure directors and writers leave stuff out just to handle it in the second or third movie.

They shouldn't be writing based on the assumption that someone is going to see the next movie but if they are you need to give something to entice the audience to come back. Batman Begins was a complete story on its own but still teased a detail for the next movie at the end to set up what was to come. This just sort of ended with no hint of consquences.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

There is literally no other way this shyt goes down, you fukkface nikkas. LOL. I mean, are we seriously acting like super hero fights don't go down in the middle of cities all the goddamn time. I mean, usually the fight just goes down. I really don't know why people are trying to be so picky about it when it comes to this movie.

its so ridiculous

 

[MartyMcFly]

They shouldn't be writing based on the assumption that someone is going to see the next movie but if they are you need to give something to entice the audience to come back. Batman Begins was a complete story on its own but still teased a detail for the next movie at the end to set up what was to come. This just sort of ended with no hint of consquences.

I feel you. I got no problem with it but I see why people do. I didn't think it was that serious but I understand the ire

 

[snikt6384]

I swear the either coli attention skills are terrible or you're being disingenuous

Winter Soldier:
The plan was to crash the carriers over the shield facility, not the great D.C. area. Any other plan would've meant those ships would've gotten in ranged to start killing civilians. Hydra started all the fire fights in the movie and they werent in area crowd with civilians. The closet to what you're referring to is the bridge scene were all the civilians left the area and they werent anywhere near the line of fire.

Avengers:

Cap especially gave every single member battle plans to account for civilians. Thor kept pressure on the portal, Ironman herded and kept the swarm in the general area and Hulk's fukk shyt up. They actually took the time acknowledge that civilians were in danger and that sentiment carried on to how the Avengers responded to Shield's nuke. Even without all that shyt, there was news report montage of survivors giving witness accounts of how an Avenger save them that day.

Where were Clark's stan giving shouts on tv? Who did Clark go out of his way to save that day Lois?

The moment Clark found out Zod was attack metropolis, this lame flies to the other side of the world. What was his plan? "If it takes both terraformers to terraform the Earth, I'll shut down the one in the ocean first while the army takes out the other one. You guys can handle Zod and that infinitely superior Alien technology rite, brb "

Or how about the fact that Clark, being Zod's primary target the majority of the fight, decided to brawl Zod in a Metropolis instead of taking the fight somewhere else. But this Clark is a noob hero though

My favorite scene of the film is when Zod knocks Clark in to outer space and Clark bodyslams him right back into metropolis. But that isnt Clarks fault, the Earth is too big to aim for another section to land in.

Oh and hold dark live action films to the same standards you hold cartoons to, brehs.

The whole movie was fukked from a logic standpoint. If you weren't looking for that, you were probably happy. I've argued about this movie a few times. People on the other side of the debate aren't ever gonna understand because the DBZ style fights pretty much were optical blowjobs. The biggest point I can make, is if you're a fukking human being why THE fukk would you want Superman on Earth? The whole problem with the Kryptonians coming and killing thousands (Snyder has admitted there's a death toll) is motherfukking caused because Superman's beacon lured them there. He is in effect saving them from a problem his people caused. No Superman, no Zod hitting the Earth with his dubstep machines.

Then he doesn't even do the shyt neatly with a regard for casualties. nikka YOU'RE SUPERMAN. Not Hulk. This is what you DO. You minimize damage as best you can. And if you can't it weighs on you. Because you're basically Jesus. Then while the whole city is wrecked, he makes out with fukking Lois Lane who he just met like what...the day before? nikka really? Do you know how many lives are lost? Go dig up some rubble bytch and find some survivors. Then after he remembers to give a fukk about a family of 3 and ends Zod's shyt...the next him is him basically trying to style on the military?? nikka do you know what your alien race brought? Oh, but he's a rookie...



He's a fukking bull in a china shop or whatever the analogy is and an a$$hole. Faora vs. Superman was excellence. The rest of the movie (especially Video Game Tutorial Jor-El and Pa Kent being a fukking douche) can suck a dikk. Buh but there's destruction in comics. Yup, and when Superman is the cause of it there's a weight to it. Character mourn, Superman changed the yellow in the S to black one time, Superman exiled himself because of the guilt he felt for merc'ing and alternate timeline Zod...dude hates losing lives. That's at least writing that tried to add a human touch.

 

[Czerka]

They shouldn't be writing based on the assumption that someone is going to see the next movie but if they are you need to give something to entice the audience to come back. Batman Begins was a complete story on its own but still teased a detail for the next movie at the end to set up what was to come. This just sort of ended with no hint of consquences.

Since when do you always need some corny marvel like teaser at the end to set up a sequel? Not everything needs to be spelled out like that

 

[chico25]

Since when do you always need some corny marvel like teaser at the end to set up a sequel? Not everything needs to be spelled out like that

They don't need a teaser but the movie ignored the fact that half a major city was destroyed. If the defense is that they are going to deal with it in the next movie I think there could have been some indication of that in the movie.

 

[Czerka]

They don't need a teaser but the movie ignored the fact that half a major city was destroyed. If the defense is that they are going to deal with it in the next movie I think there could have been some indication of that in the movie.

No, not everything needs to be spelled out, we aren't all idiots who can't read between the lines. Zod is gone, the main story of the movie is over. The movie doesn't need to hold your hand and tell you what's going to happen next. This never even occurred to me when I saw the ending. Who cares? The lengths some of you will go to be petty

 

[chico25]

No, not everything needs to be spelled out, we aren't all idiots who can't read between the lines. Zod is gone, the main story of the movie is over. The movie doesn't need to hold your hand and tell you what's going to happen next. This never even occurred to me when I saw the ending. Who cares? The lengths some of you will go to be petty

Not trying to be petty I guess these are the type of things that cross your mind when you are sitting a movie theater bored. If you were enjoying the movie at the time good for you but I wasn't. I wanted to but it didn't appeal to me.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Buh but there's destruction in comics. Yup, and when Superman is the cause of it there's a weight to it. Character mourn, Superman changed the yellow in the S to black one time, Superman exiled himself because of the guilt he felt for merc'ing and alternate timeline Zod...dude hates losing lives. That's at least writing that tried to add a human touch.

This is a big point that a lot of people are overlooking.

People expect more from our world's greatest hero. So because we have such high expectations placed upon him unfortunately it leaves him a lot less room for error.

No one wants to hear a story where Superman couldn't save the day. No one wants to hear a story where Superman allowed 50,000 people to die. And you wanna know why? Because it doesn't sound like a Superman story. It sounds like the story of some other fugazi superhero that couldn't hold Superman's jock.

These are the standards you are held to when you're the best .

 

[Kartel13]

In Batman Begins after Batman tears apart through the city in the tumbler, Alfred gives him a talking to about how he needs to be more responsible. "It's a miracle no one was kiled....", etc. etc. etc. The movie made a fine point to illustrate that Bruce was still learning and that he he had yet to perfect the craft.

Meanwhile when Superman returns with Lois and stands atop a barren wasteland, that dumb reporter bytch actually had the nerve to say "He saved us..."...

... right before Superman and Lois share in a passionate (or should I say passionless) kiss.

Superman's feats are celebrated in the movie.

I'm sure Clark wasn't a fully seasoned veteran on his first day but to tell a story where he indirectly causes the deaths of thousands of people during his first outing as Superman is ridiculous. Especially in a movie where the character is being touted as a savior of humanity.

Thousands? The machines terraforming caused more damage than anything supes and zod did.

 

[Kartel13]

I cant believe people are really upset about destruction casualties. Fukken ridiculous.