Grano-Grano
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And this thread proves why I'll never respect/support Clinton centrism. Always was and always will be, sellouts. No balls to stand up to Republicans. At least the voters would respect Dems if they had balls to be themselves.
Illegals and muslims can't be central to the Democrats anymore. Voters are just stupid. Admit it.
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its the districts.
Ossoff won the city.
Basically black people and the cities helped ossoff and white people stuck together.
No democratic platform will fix this.
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Centrism put Obama and Bill Clinton into the White House.
Grano-Grano
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And they put us in worse conditions after. Doesn't mean shyt.
You want to chase the reasonable republican that doesn't exist. No matter what overture Obama made, or how acceptable he appeared, they always saw him as a radical black panther. No matter what he did, said, or stood for. Like with Osoff, he spoke well, campaigned on "government waste", avoided the things you brought up in this thread. The "reasonable republicans" still saw him as a hippie & extension of those things.
Can't play 1992 politics and expect to win in 2020. I bet even Bill Clinton would tell you that. Hillary didn't even listen to him tho. So sad
Do you not think that if these "liberals" existed, they wouldn't be chased?
They don't.
There is no liberal base. This country is a center-right country with liberals who live on top of each other.
Thats according to how districts are drawn.
Yeah this is a big problem.
These Hispanics are some of the dumbest people in this country next to poor whites. fukkin idiots really think they're white and vote Republican.
I'm sorry that I'm making sweeping generalizations and shyt but these fukkin Cubans, Argentinians, etc. are fukkin idiots.
Oceanicpuppy
Superstar
How are democrats supposed to fight a 500 year old ideology?its the districts.
Ossoff won the city.
Basically black people and the cities helped ossoff and white people stuck together.
No democratic platform will fix this.
It's illegal to district by race but republicans loop hole around it by drawing the districts by party.
It seems like a tough situation.
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Why are you disagreeing with me so heavily?
Mind you, all this left-wing shyt is popular in the UK BECAUSE theres relatively no black people there
Its ALL white over there. Of course Corbyn is popular. He barely has minorities to look at
Why are you disagreeing with me so heavily?
Mind you, all this left-wing shyt is popular in the UK BECAUSE theres relatively no black people there
Its ALL white over there. Of course Corbyn is popular. He barely has minorities to look at
Not true buddy, I believed we reached a common ground in the other thread, and am building on that
Oceanicpuppy
Superstar
It's not that they are idiots. They are the white elite and privileged in Latin America so naturally they align with such parties outside of Latin America.Yeah this is a big problem.
These Hispanics are some of the dumbest people in this country next to poor whites. fukkin idiots really think they're white and vote Republican.
I'm sorry that I'm making sweeping generalizations and shyt but these fukkin Cubans, Argentinians, etc. are fukkin idiots.
There are serious class and race divisions in Latin America.
Bruh, look at Corbyn's district: London Borough of Islington - Wikipedia
Off jump,
• Seventy-four percent of Islington residents describe themselves as at least one of English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Irish/British identities only; similar to London (75%) but lower than England (91%)
http://www.vai.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/2012-Census-Islington-Summary.pdf
47.7% White British
3.9% White Irish
0.1% White Gypsy or Irish Traveller
16.4% Other White
2.1% White & Black Caribbean
0.9% White & Black African
1.4% White & Asian
2.1% Other Mixed
1.7% Indian
0.5% Pakistani
2.3% Bangladeshi
2.2% Chinese
2.6% Other Asian
6.1% Black African
3.9% Black Caribbean
2.8% Other Black
0.9% Arab
2.4% Other
Yeah, REAL easy to be left wing there
Racial politics isn't the strong suite of the Bernie Bro
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GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
SMH. I keep saying this and I will continue to say this but we would not be having this discussion if 100K people across 4 states voted differently or if turnout had been more successful.
Instead of hiring high priced consultants whose advice is no better than what you would get from an online forum, use that money to pay an army of people to do nothing but literally take people to the polls. Have election day parties (with food/drinks/entertainment) where all the people in a given neighborhood congregate in one place for food/entertainment and have a mfer with a minivan taking people to the polls and bringing people back.
I know these kinds of things probably already happen, but it needs to be a much larger percentage of the overall budget. Think about how many people from our generation would be willing to go to a block party with promise of food/drinks/entertainment and all they have to do in return is vote.
Instead of hiring high priced consultants whose advice is no better than what you would get from an online forum, use that money to pay an army of people to do nothing but literally take people to the polls. Have election day parties (with food/drinks/entertainment) where all the people in a given neighborhood congregate in one place for food/entertainment and have a mfer with a minivan taking people to the polls and bringing people back.
I know these kinds of things probably already happen, but it needs to be a much larger percentage of the overall budget. Think about how many people from our generation would be willing to go to a block party with promise of food/drinks/entertainment and all they have to do in return is vote.
Dudes don't even wanna talk about the facts on the ground.How are democrats supposed to fight a 500 year ideology?
It's illegal to district by race but republicans loop hole around it by drawing the districts by party.
It's seems like a tough situation.
Democrats are trying to play fair. Republicans are playing race.