If you replace Olajuwan on those Rockets championship teams with current Embiid do they still win?

[Braman]

Embiid ain’t had shooters now?

THAT'S BETTER THAN
HARDEN, MAXEY, PJ AND TOBIAS
WITH NIANG AND MELTON
OFF THE BENCH?

TNATS LITERALLY SIX 39% OR HIGHER
3P SHOOTERS ON THE SAME TEAM.

JET WAS THE ONLY GUY YOU LISTED
WHO SHOT ABOVE 34% IN 94.



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Gotta account for eras. In 1994, having 1-3 able to shoot 3s was not common. And having a 4 who could shoot 3s was damn near unheard of.

For reference 4 of the knicks top 6 scorers in that finals were not 3pt shooters. Not just bad shooters , but literally do not attempt 3 point shots: Ewing, Oakley, Mason, Charles smith

On the flip, for Houston everyone but Olajuwon and Thorpe WERE shooters. For that time, it was a 2015 GS type innovation/advantage

What Embiid has now is the norm.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

making a thread like this in Ramadan should be a bushable offense

 

[badboys11]

Embidd plays nothing like Hakeem and the rockets were designed around him. Embidds not staying healthy for a 7 game matchup vs David Robinson. Who's getting post points with everyone standing out on the perimeter?

Chucky Brown???

First year they getting beat by Utah in the first round somehow that would be the matchup

Second year they were 6 seed. They not making the playoffs if u take away Hakeem, embidds has no chemistry with Drexler and he's hurt all the time so they damn sure ain't making the playoffs

Who's guarding Shawn Kemp when they play the Sonics?

Hakeem Improves todays sixers team and maybe they win it all. Embiid on the rockets is a borderline lottery team and everybody gets traded

 

[CHICAGO]

Gotta account for eras. In 1994, having 1-3 able to shoot 3s was not common. And having a 4 who could shoot 3s was damn near unheard of.

For reference 4 of the knicks top 6 scorers in that finals were not 3pt shooters. Not just bad shooters , but literally do not attempt 3 point shots: Ewing, Oakley, Mason, Charles smith

On the flip, for Houston everyone but Olajuwon and Thorpe WERE shooters. For that time, it was a 2015 GS type innovation/advantage

What Embiid has now is the norm.

NAH

1. IN 94 MAXWELL SHOT 30% FROM THE 3
AND HORRY SHOT 32%.

THEY WERENT GOOD 3P SHOOTERS
IN ANY ERA.

2. HORRY WAS AT THE 3
AND OTIS THORPE WAS AT THE 4.

OTIS DIDNT SHOOT ANY 3S

KENNY 41%
MAX 30%
HORRY 32%
OTIS 0%
DREAM


SO KENNY SMITH WAS
THE ONLY GOOD 3P SHOOTER
IN THE STARTING 5.

EMBIID AINT DOING
shyt WITH THAT BUT
CRYING ABOUT A LACK OF HELP



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[Braman]

NAH

1. IN 94 MAXWELL SHOT 30% FROM THE 3
AND HORRY SHOT 32%.

THEY WERENT GOOD 3P SHOOTERS
IN ANY ERA.

2. HORRY WAS AT THE 3
AND OTIS THORPE WAS AT THE 4.

OTIS DIDNT SHOOT ANY 3S

KENNY 41%
MAX 30%
HORRY 32%
OTIS 0%
DREAM


SO KENNY SMITH WAS
THE ONLY GOOD 3P SHOOTER
IN THE STARTING 5.

EMBIID AINT DOING
shyt WITH THAT BUT
CRYING ABOUT A LACK OF HELP



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Yea in 93-94 Horry started as a SF but played a ton at PF bc Cassell and Ellie played heavy minutes. The next season he was primarily a 4

As far as the 3s they led the league with 15.7 a game. Next highest was 12.7. That’s a huge gap. They were playing a completely different style and even with the shortened line they were shooting way more than any team, and especially ‘championship’ teams. The Knicks shot 11 a game. The 93 Bulls shot EIGHT per game. Heavy 3 point shooting was seen as some loser shyt until they did it

So the percentages don’t tell the story the volume —-and spacing, a foreign concept then——was key.

 

[Space Cowboy]

You should be ashamed posting this.

 

[JoelB]

Why'd you have to make this thread OP

 

[CHICAGO]

Yea in 93-94 Horry started as a SF but played a ton at PF bc Cassell and Ellie played heavy minutes. The next season he was primarily a 4

As far as the 3s they led the league with 15.7 a game. Next highest was 12.7. That’s a huge gap. They were playing a completely different style and even with the shortened line they were shooting way more than any team, and especially ‘championship’ teams. The Knicks shot 11 a game. The 93 Bulls shot EIGHT per game. Heavy 3 point shooting was seen as some loser shyt until they did it

So the percentages don’t tell the story the volume —-and spacing, a foreign concept then——was key.

1. THE SHORTENED LINE WASNT
UNTIL 95...

2. NEXT HIGHEST WAS 13.9


3. THORPE PLAYED 36 MIN A GM
AND 37 MIN A GM IN THE PLAYOFFS.

HERERA WAS THE BACK UP PF
SO HORRY DIDNT PLAY
A TON OF PF AT ALL

MAXWELL WAS TAKING
5 3S A GM AT 30%.
YOULL TAKE THAT ALL DAY
AND EMBIID WOULD COMPLAIN.

ROCKETS WERE 15TH IN 3P%
AND ONLY MADE 5 PER GAME
WHILE THE KNICKS MADE 4.



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[L. Deezy]

No, I chose Embiid because it's more of a debate. That is funny though I didn't even think of the African connection.


Jokic is not a debate. He would absolutely have won those rings and honestly when it's all said and done I think that cac will have a legitimate case to be put over the dream.

Jokic could handle young Shaq? Uhhhhhh

Lets face it, I love Jokic, but he dont play anyone close to a Shaq

 

[Chip Skylark]

You must be talking about yourself and all the other bozos that came in here without explaining their reasoning. Embiid is good enough to warrant this discussion.




Career 24&10 with 2 blocks in the playoffs. Hakeem 26&11 with 3 blocks. Clearly the better stat line but he was also playing against carpenters. I'm just saying it's close enough to debate, if you actually have the skills to do so.



Mentioning 6'4 Barkley in a thread about two legit big men is retard activity. Plus, I have Embiid over everybody you just mentioned except MAYBE Robinson.



Again, 24/10/2 is not EVER showing up? Lets not be ridiculous. The argument I'm making here is the same as if I asked you to switch prime Harden with AI do they beat the Lakers? Like Embiid he's also known for choking in the playoffs but that alone doesn't mean he's not better than AI.


That might very well be my next thread actually. Feelings aside Harden might actually be the better baller, and this is coming from someone born in '91

Ban worthy

wtf is this

 

[BBG]

Jokic could handle young Shaq? Uhhhhhh

Lets face it, I love Jokic, but he dont play anyone close to a Shaq

The question is, can shaq handle him










nah but for real they would both eat I'm not understanding why y'all insist on building straw men in this bytch. I never Said jokic could "handle" young Shaq, just that he could help his team beat the Magic in a 7 game series same as dream did



And another thing. Nobody in the history of the Association has "played anyone close to a Shaq" so it's also disingenuous to say that like it's not already understood. The only way to play anything like Shaq was to play fukkin Shaq.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

No

Dream had elite impact on the defensive end he anchored that Rockets defense

Embiid is a huge step behind defensively

And that defense played a major role in the Rockets winning those titles.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Embiid would fracture a kneecap on the first dream shake attempt

 

[Shadow King]

Dream is actually the perfect person to make this point. Dream didn’t win a chip or an mvp til 32. What was he doin for 10 years

He went to the Finals in Year 2

 

[L. Deezy]

The question is, can shaq handle him










nah but for real they would both eat I'm not understanding why y'all insist on building straw men in this bytch. I never Said jokic could "handle" young Shaq, just that he could help his team beat the Magic in a 7 game series same as dream did



And another thing. Nobody in the history of the Association has "played anyone close to a Shaq" so it's also disingenuous to say that like it's not already understood. The only way to play anything like Shaq was to play fukkin Shaq.

Lol..calm down bro

This is a better than good hypothetical thread.

Now Rockets swept Orlando in 95.. Shaq was 23. Its just hard to see Jokic doing finals MVP work like Olajuwon to beat a Shaq squad..


"In the series, Olajuwon averaged 32.8 points, 11.5 rebounds, 5.5 assists, 2.0 blocks and 2.0 steals on 48.3% shooting from the field. O'Neal proved to be a worthy adversary, averaging 28.0 points, 12.5 rebounds, 6.3 assists, 2.5 blocks and 0.3 steals on 59.5% shooting, but it wasn't enough to carry the Magic to victory: