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If you replace Olajuwan on those Rockets championship teams with current Embiid do they still win?
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You keep pointing to Jo stats in an era where the pace is higher & offense freedom is greater. All that & his numbers still aren’t better than DreamsYou must be talking about yourself and all the other bozos that came in here without explaining their reasoning. Embiid is good enough to warrant this discussion.
Career 24&10 with 2 blocks in the playoffs. Hakeem 26&11 with 3 blocks. Clearly the better stat line but he was also playing against carpenters. I'm just saying it's close enough to debate, if you actually have the skills to do so.
Mentioning 6'4 Barkley in a thread about two legit big men is retard activity. Plus, I have Embiid over everybody you just mentioned except MAYBE Robinson.
Again, 24/10/2 is not EVER showing up? Lets not be ridiculous. The argument I'm making here is the same as if I asked you to switch prime Harden with AI do they beat the Lakers? Like Embiid he's also known for choking in the playoffs but that alone doesn't mean he's not better than AI.
That might very well be my next thread actually. Feelings aside Harden might actually be the better baller, and this is coming from someone born in '91
Certain players elevate there teams beyond the boxscore
Do you think KAT could have won those rings?
He went to the Finals in Year 2
Whats that supposed to mean ?? Tatum been to the finals. Booker been to the finals. Russ been to the finals. We clown them any less? Aight then.
Also ironically a young Shaq ‘went to the finals’ vs a veteran Olajuwon, does he ever get credit for that? No. It’s used to clown him. Same with Lebron and the Boobie Gibson cavs vs the Spurs. Let’s keep the same energy
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This is untrue. Jo lives by that free throw jumper
Erratic415
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Probably not.
Of course the play styles have changed as the game has changed, but the Rockets needed Hakeem to have 2 of the greatest postseason runs, and still were very close to being eliminated both times. There isn’t much room for error.
The 94’ Rockets had to come back from 2-0 against Phoenix, and win 2 straight in the finals to beat NY in 7. The way Starks was playing in the fourth quarter in game 6, I got the feeling he would have made the 3 and won the series if Hakeem didn’t get there in time to block it.
The 95’ Rockets had to win 5 straight elimination games on the road to finals, 3 of them on the road. They were down 3-1 against Phoenix without HCA. Wesley Person was very close to eliminating them in game 5 on that late 3 in regulation (and Barkley had missed numerous FTs that would have wrapped up the series).
Of course the play styles have changed as the game has changed, but the Rockets needed Hakeem to have 2 of the greatest postseason runs, and still were very close to being eliminated both times. There isn’t much room for error.
The 94’ Rockets had to come back from 2-0 against Phoenix, and win 2 straight in the finals to beat NY in 7. The way Starks was playing in the fourth quarter in game 6, I got the feeling he would have made the 3 and won the series if Hakeem didn’t get there in time to block it.
The 95’ Rockets had to win 5 straight elimination games on the road to finals, 3 of them on the road. They were down 3-1 against Phoenix without HCA. Wesley Person was very close to eliminating them in game 5 on that late 3 in regulation (and Barkley had missed numerous FTs that would have wrapped up the series).
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Shaq played better against Hakeem than the other star centers (Ewing, Robinson) during the Rockets repeat, but the team did the worst.
Houston constantly had guys stepping up outside their main 2 offensive weapons (Hakeem & Clyde). Outside of Shaq & Penny, Orlando didn’t get type of offensive production. Nick Anderson probably lost his confidence after game 1. Dennis Scott was their sharp shooter from 3 point land but couldn’t hit his shots during the finals.
1995 NBA Finals - Rockets vs. Magic | Basketball-Reference.com
Summary and statistics for the 1995 NBA Finals - Rockets vs. Magic
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1. THE SHORTENED LINE WASNT
UNTIL 95...
2. NEXT HIGHEST WAS 13.9
3. THORPE PLAYED 36 MIN A GM
AND 37 MIN A GM IN THE PLAYOFFS.
HERERA WAS THE BACK UP PF
SO HORRY DIDNT PLAY
A TON OF PF AT ALL
MAXWELL WAS TAKING
5 3S A GM AT 30%.
YOULL TAKE THAT ALL DAY
AND EMBIID WOULD COMPLAIN.
ROCKETS WERE 15TH IN 3P%
AND ONLY MADE 5 PER GAME
WHILE THE KNICKS MADE 4.
1. The next highest was 12.7
NBA League Average 3 Point Attempts In 1994 | StatMuse
NBA league average 3 point attempts in 1994
2. Yes, Thorpe was PF. I’m thinking of the next season when they traded Thorpe and fully embraced the 3 —-and Horry at the 4— even more
2b. Harrera was a backup, but don’t forget Matt Bullard in 94 and Pete Chilcutt in 95. Two white boy bigs whose only job was to shoot 3s. And that was not the norm then
3. Let’s not trip up over semantics. To bring it back to the premise of the thread, my original point still stands: the Rockets shot hella 3s and it would fit with Embiid. Actually, they shot a record number of 3s in that run
In 1994-95 the NBA made a rules change that resulted in a tremendous increase in three point shots….The Houston Rockets made a record 646 three pointers--217 more than their record setting total from the previous season
Today in playoff history: 1995 Rockets set 3-point record in Utah
Led by seven 3-pointers and 32 points from Kenny Smith, the Rockets exploded with 140 points in Game 2 to even the series versus Utah.
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Led by reigning MVP Hakeem Olajuwon and a supporting cast of 3-point bombers,
the Rockets made their stand in Game 2. During a 140-126 victory (box score) in Salt Lake City, the Rockets hit an astonishing 19-of-28 (67.9%) shots from 3-point range. That set a new NBA record at the time, easily eclipsing the previous record of 12 3-pointers.Hit 19 3s when the record was 12
1. The next highest was 12.7
NBA League Average 3 Point Attempts In 1994 | StatMuse
NBA league average 3 point attempts in 1994www.statmuse.com
2. Yes, Thorpe was PF. I’m thinking of the next season when they traded Thorpe and fully embraced the 3 —-and Horry at the 4— even more
2b. Harrera was a backup, but don’t forget Matt Bullard in 94 and Pete Chilcutt in 95. Two white boy bigs whose only job was to shoot 3s. And that was not the norm then
3. Let’s not trip up over semantics. To bring it back to the premise of the thread, my original point still stands: the Rockets shot hella 3s and it would fit with Embiid. Actually, they shot a record number of 3s in that run
In 1994-95 the NBA made a rules change that resulted in a tremendous increase in three point shots….The Houston Rockets made a record 646 three pointers--217 more than their record setting total from the previous season
Today in playoff history: 1995 Rockets set 3-point record in Utah
Led by seven 3-pointers and 32 points from Kenny Smith, the Rockets exploded with 140 points in Game 2 to even the series versus Utah.
Led by reigning MVP Hakeem Olajuwon and a supporting cast of 3-point bombers,
Hit 19 3s when the record was 12
1. STAT MUSE ISNT AN OFFICIAL SITE.
ITS A.I. ALWAYS POSTS INCORRECT shyt.
CHECK BASKETBALL REFERENCE.
ITS 13.9
2.
HERRERA DIDNT TAKE ANY 3S IN 94.YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH THE FACT
OTIS WAS A TRUE PF
AND HIS BACKUP WAS A TRUE PF.
BULLARD PLAYED 5 MIN PER GM IN 94 PLAYOFFS.
IT COMPLETELY KILLS YOUR
ORIGINAL POINT ABOUT DREAM
HAVING 4 SHOOTERS ON THE COURT.
HIS PFS DIDNT SHOOT 3S
WHILE THE SG & SF
SHOT 3S TERRIBLY.
3. WE WERE CLEARLY TALKING
ABOUT THE 94 TEAM AND YOU KNOW THAT.
MAXWELL WASNT EVEN THERE
ON THE SECOND TITLE RUN
SO THERES NO WAY TO CONFUSE THE 2.
MAGIC SHOTS MORE 3S PER GM
IN THE 94 PLAYOFFS
AND SUNS SHOT JUST AS MANY OF HOU.
THE DIFFERENCE IS HOU MADE
IT FURTHER THAN BOTH TEAMS
SO THEY MADE MORE THREES...
INSERTING ALL THAT SHORTENED
3P LINE shyt FROM THE 2ND SEASON
IS IRRELEVANT.
GOTTA WIN THE FIRST ONE FIRST.
How is it used to clown him?
That Magic team is always used as a what if team because of their quick success and what they could have been if they didn’t break up.
Shaq was in his third year in the league and averaged 28/13/6/3 on 60% from the field in the finals.
UpAndComing
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I love both Hakeem and Embiid. Delete this thread
feelosofer
#ninergang
I think the issue is not so much skills as much as it is health. Embiid is great player from a skills standpoint but he is top heavy and has weak knees. He would have either missed some time with ankle and leg injuries. The think with Hakeem was not just skill but coming from a soccer background also kept him trim and light on his feet.
