“If you live in another state than your children then you failed as a father “

Should a father at the very least live in the same state as their children?

  • Yes

    Votes: 38 62.3%
  • No

    Votes: 23 37.7%

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Phitz

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No. It's really case by case. I have seen women just pick-up and go to another state.
The coli has lost sense of logic. Ive seen women move 3 states and 2 countries and thats also depending on the new man she gets with so good luck finding a good job where ever she moves. Especially if you have a good job whwe left with ample vacation and benefits.
 

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I say it’s a failure when you have the means and skills to be living near them and are still single/don’t have other local kids. Like if you’re working an oil rig in the gulf, I get living in Texas and if the mom moves to Wisconsin, that ain’t necessarily an easy move for you. But you got the run of the mill corporate job, and it’s just you, man up and get a job in Wisconsin to be by your kid. If you’ve started a new family, you can’t necessarily uproot them to be near your first kid(s) if their mother moves them.
This is not always the best decision. Ure near your kid but the job market may be shakey with the company in Wisconsin the one where you left. I don't know. Y'all women can be indecisive. This is why my cousin is divorced now. His wife wanted to move to another country, 2 years later she wanted to move back to the states, he held down the fort a little then followed hee back to the states. Then they do orced because he was used to where they lives and they had 2 kids. I've seen these things in action. The coli opinions are like a 3 year old with no grip on reality.
 
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Long post incoming, questions like this need context. Because you could or couldn't be a deadbeat or failure if you move away, same way you could/couldn't be a debate if you stayed in town...

There are laws in North Carolina that I could prevent my kids' mothers from leaving the state. I wouldnt do that to them...

Last December my youngest daughter's mom told me she eventually plans to move back to Brooklyn. She was born there but has been in NC since she was around 10, she's 30 now and our daughter will be 3 soon...

In January my two oldest's mom, said she has considerations for moving back to Virginia Beach or to Orlando. She's 28, our daughters are 7 and soon-to-be 6...

I have zero desire to move to NY or Orlando. Could see myself in VB again but it's a long shot, I don't have it in the plans. So I'm not following them around...

I have a pretty solid option to move to Nashville, still within my company, if I choose to. And my company has flexibility to where I can still work here but be in Sacramento AND Raleigh which is an active plan...

And those women aren't following me to Sacramento or Nashville...

I view it like this. I was on my way back to Sac permanently in 2016 when I found out my first child was on the way. Literally, as in, I found out she was pregnant in June, in July I was going to California permanently...

I've stayed out here because this is where my kids are. And I do like Carolina and VA, but I would have been gone otherwise...

I think it's invaluable being in the same location as your kids. They need that. At the same time, if you can provide for them better, with a better opportunity elsewhere, you shouldn't limit yourself, but it's a risk/reward thing and it's incumbent on you as a father to take the necessary steps to ensure you can be in their lives still...

I got a homeboy who moved to Maine four years ago. His oldest son moved up to Maine with him last year. His oldest daughter is in NC. His other daughter and other son are in The Bronx. He's financially stable, he's not as involved as I'd be with his OT kids but he's not "absent". And he did just take his oldest son in...

I have a homeboy who lives in Jacksonville, has 4 kids with 4 women, only one is in Florida. The other 3 are in Charlotte, Durham, and up in Atlantic City. This homeboy is really financially successful, and I think he could be more physically involved because he is papered up, but he's not "absent"...

I have a homeboy who lives in Atlanta, has his youngest daughter there. But his oldest daughter is up in Virginia and his middle daughter is in San Jose, and I would describe him as an active father...

I have a homeboy who lives in Atlanta, with his son and his oldest daughter just came to live with him in Georgia. But his younger daughter is in Vegas. He does well financially and is also in his kids lives...

Not a guy I know, but I have a homegirl, whose oldest daughter's father, is in Texas, and she's in NC, and he has two other kids here in NC. He's papered up bit she says he isn't the most involved, he also has like 3 kids in Texas. Another homegirl, her son's father is here in NC with her son, but his daughter is in Maryland, and he isn't that well financially but he spends time with his son here and goes to Maryland to see his daughter a few times per year. My youngest daughter's mom, her two oldest son's father is in Charlottesville Va, she lives with their sons in Fayetteville NC. He has two daughters in VA, two other sons in NC. He's a guy who doesn't have a lot of money but he's semi-involved in his kids' lives, should be more involved but I wouldn't call him "absent"...

There are other examples I can't call off the top of my head, but I think the overall theme around me, is the men who live in other states typically followed where they could increase their bag. Also none of them are pure deadbeats. I have some issue with how they support their kids both physically and financially, like my homie in Florida, if I had his money I'd be coming to NC and NJ to see my kids more, or I'd bring them to me more...

But none of them are "deadbeats", and being in a different state from your kids only makes you a deadbeat if you wanna be one. We all know there's plenty of nikkas who live two miles from their kids that are straight up deadbeats...

When I choose to go outta state, it will change how often I see my kids but not my engagement in their lives. As it is, in most of our cases living in town with them, we're still subject to seeing our kids when we can, most of us aren't in situations where we get our kids all the time...

My two oldest daughters live with their mom literally 25 minutes across Raleigh from me, they here with me sleeping right now (we were up late last night 🤣). I think I get them alot, I get them on probably ⅔ of days I'm off, and sometimes I see them on days I do work for a few hours. And even with that said, I don't see them most days I work, still don't see them at times I'm off. It's not like because I live here I have them every day...

So this is one of those things, I would leave to increase my bag which helps me better provide for them. Especially if I go to Nashville for awhile, which I have no ties to. Sacramento is more setting up a seasonal base for where my kids can come hang with me in the summers...
All these people having children with multiple people

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I wouldn’t move my kids away from their father but if he was a POS I definitely wouldn’t mind if he got the fukk on wherever that may be.
 

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Long post incoming, questions like this need context. Because you could or couldn't be a deadbeat or failure if you move away, same way you could/couldn't be a debate if you stayed in town...

There are laws in North Carolina that I could prevent my kids' mothers from leaving the state. I wouldnt do that to them...

Last December my youngest daughter's mom told me she eventually plans to move back to Brooklyn. She was born there but has been in NC since she was around 10, she's 30 now and our daughter will be 3 soon...

In January my two oldest's mom, said she has considerations for moving back to Virginia Beach or to Orlando. She's 28, our daughters are 7 and soon-to-be 6...

I have zero desire to move to NY or Orlando. Could see myself in VB again but it's a long shot, I don't have it in the plans. So I'm not following them around...

I have a pretty solid option to move to Nashville, still within my company, if I choose to. And my company has flexibility to where I can still work here but be in Sacramento AND Raleigh which is an active plan...

And those women aren't following me to Sacramento or Nashville...

I view it like this. I was on my way back to Sac permanently in 2016 when I found out my first child was on the way. Literally, as in, I found out she was pregnant in June, in July I was going to California permanently...

I've stayed out here because this is where my kids are. And I do like Carolina and VA, but I would have been gone otherwise...

I think it's invaluable being in the same location as your kids. They need that. At the same time, if you can provide for them better, with a better opportunity elsewhere, you shouldn't limit yourself, but it's a risk/reward thing and it's incumbent on you as a father to take the necessary steps to ensure you can be in their lives still...

I got a homeboy who moved to Maine four years ago. His oldest son moved up to Maine with him last year. His oldest daughter is in NC. His other daughter and other son are in The Bronx. He's financially stable, he's not as involved as I'd be with his OT kids but he's not "absent". And he did just take his oldest son in...

I have a homeboy who lives in Jacksonville, has 4 kids with 4 women, only one is in Florida. The other 3 are in Charlotte, Durham, and up in Atlantic City. This homeboy is really financially successful, and I think he could be more physically involved because he is papered up, but he's not "absent"...

I have a homeboy who lives in Atlanta, has his youngest daughter there. But his oldest daughter is up in Virginia and his middle daughter is in San Jose, and I would describe him as an active father...

I have a homeboy who lives in Atlanta, with his son and his oldest daughter just came to live with him in Georgia. But his younger daughter is in Vegas. He does well financially and is also in his kids lives...

Not a guy I know, but I have a homegirl, whose oldest daughter's father, is in Texas, and she's in NC, and he has two other kids here in NC. He's papered up bit she says he isn't the most involved, he also has like 3 kids in Texas. Another homegirl, her son's father is here in NC with her son, but his daughter is in Maryland, and he isn't that well financially but he spends time with his son here and goes to Maryland to see his daughter a few times per year. My youngest daughter's mom, her two oldest son's father is in Charlottesville Va, she lives with their sons in Fayetteville NC. He has two daughters in VA, two other sons in NC. He's a guy who doesn't have a lot of money but he's semi-involved in his kids' lives, should be more involved but I wouldn't call him "absent"...

There are other examples I can't call off the top of my head, but I think the overall theme around me, is the men who live in other states typically followed where they could increase their bag. Also none of them are pure deadbeats. I have some issue with how they support their kids both physically and financially, like my homie in Florida, if I had his money I'd be coming to NC and NJ to see my kids more, or I'd bring them to me more...

But none of them are "deadbeats", and being in a different state from your kids only makes you a deadbeat if you wanna be one. We all know there's plenty of nikkas who live two miles from their kids that are straight up deadbeats...

When I choose to go outta state, it will change how often I see my kids but not my engagement in their lives. As it is, in most of our cases living in town with them, we're still subject to seeing our kids when we can, most of us aren't in situations where we get our kids all the time...

My two oldest daughters live with their mom literally 25 minutes across Raleigh from me, they here with me sleeping right now (we were up late last night 🤣). I think I get them alot, I get them on probably ⅔ of days I'm off, and sometimes I see them on days I do work for a few hours. And even with that said, I don't see them most days I work, still don't see them at times I'm off. It's not like because I live here I have them every day...

So this is one of those things, I would leave to increase my bag which helps me better provide for them. Especially if I go to Nashville for awhile, which I have no ties to. Sacramento is more setting up a seasonal base for where my kids can come hang with me in the summers...

I won’t knock it cause they making it work but the common denominator amongst everyone man or woman in that story is that folks are running around having kids not thinking about the future. So yeah you’ll have a situation where eventually you’ll be away from your kids because you’re running around having kids in every relationship. To me that’s where the failure is.

It’s a failure as a man knocking a chick up, yall breaking up, then going to another woman knocking her up. Then break up. Repeat. Is irresponsible.

To make it clear it’s possible to be a decent maybe even good Dad from a distance it’s just majority of the time it’s the consequences of poor decisions.
 

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The woman is a failure in that scenario as well. Taking your one yr old and shacking up with a new man is WILD.

And the sad part is the likelihood of her having ANOTHER child with that new man while running around with a 1 year old is probably 100%. That’s how a lot of these women have multiple baby fathers.
 

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This is not black and white.

It’s one thing if you move away from your kids but if your kids mom moves away and is unstable in her location you can’t keep up and moving and following her around. Especially if you actually have a career and aren’t an hourly worker.

One chick i used to hit she was originally in Colorado, moved to Pennsylvania, then Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, and now she in Texas. All of that in a 10 year span. Nobody should be expected to follow that bytch around.
Exactly. I know someone's child's mother who moved who moved three times to different cities over the years. People can't just get up go like that.
 
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