if u think about it kobe reign on the top was short like leprechauns

[Malcolmxxx_23]

The same Bron stans who were shytting on Bryant for having Pau Gasol or for being a "sidekick" early on.

But when Lebron pulls that bullshyt with Wade & Bosh, it's all good

I been stopped trying to reason with these nikkas. Id rather talk to Rush Limbaugh than these dudes

you dudes were praying and riding okc d1ck hoping they beat the heat

get mad we taking over

kobe in euroleague in 2yrs

 

[Lakerman0834]

Lol @ kobe giving careers not only to basketball bums luke, smush and Kwame but also to scrub posters just instert kobes name and get hits

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

That's not the entire story though. Shaq was rejuvenated and killing it in the finals. He had nobody who could guard him. Both wallaces couldn't stop him.

It was a choice on Kobe's part to play hero ball. Since time has passed, kobe fans have started to admit he was to blame for that debacle. The stans though? They pretend like it never happened.

Breh, that whole squad was a debacle on the low. Our next PF was Slava Medvedenko, GP didn't fit in at all, our bench was depleated from years of negligence, the power struggle that began after Jerry West's departure was coming to a head.

Laker fans know it was way more than just Kobe, he's not innocent but there are a lot of people that are guilty.

 

[GreatestLaker]

Rose? He was the best player in 2010.

Nash deserved it in 2005, even though a case could have been made for Shaq.

Dirk... it is a regular season award. HE made up for it last year.

LMFAO @ making up for an award 5 years later.

The Dirk of last year was not the Dirk you saw in 07. He wasn't even a top 5 player that year. Dude was easily stopped on offense by 6'7 players. He had no post game to speak of.

@ Rose being the best player in 2010.

 

[LittleLordBboy]

Are we really mentioning the same T-Mac who won absolutely nothing in the same convo as Kobe?! Really?!

 

[Gotright]

Lol @ kobe giving careers not only to basketball bums luke, smush and Kwame but also to scrub posters just instert kobes name and get hits

 

[GreatestLaker]

Breh, that whole squad was a debacle on the low. Our next PF was Slava Medvedenko, GP didn't fit in at all, our bench was depleated from years of negligence, the power struggle that began after Jerry West's departure was coming to a head.

Laker fans know it was way more than just Kobe, he's not innocent but there are a lot of people that are guilty.

Mitch Kupchak was to blame for that debacle. He didn't address any of the needs that haunted us in 2003 and that nearly cost us the ring in 2002.

We lacked athleticism, slashers, shooters and youth.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Are we really mentioning the same T-Mac who won absolutely nothing in the same convo as Kobe?! Really?!

What and when exactly was he supposed to win? His 2nd best player played 40 games throughout his tenure with tmac

 

[Gotright]

Are we really mentioning the same T-Mac who won absolutely nothing in the same convo as Kobe?! Really?!

what individual awards kobe won back when tmac was dropping 30

 

[Street Knowledge]

It does.

Rose, Nash, Dirk winning MVPs were a fukking joke.

Dont mean to go on a rant, and Im in the extreme minority, but I thought they except for maybe rose deserved their MVP's.
Hear me out

-Nash in 05' took a team that won 29 games into the best team in the league(62 wins)making them one of the best offensive teams of all time(look it up)
And amare, Marion, joe Johnson, all them nikkaz got better because of him. They won STRICTLY because of their all time offense, and that was because of him. That, and there was really no one else.
- in 06' Kobe was the best player but his team was 45 games, that ain't good enough. Nash lost Amare and Joe but they still won 50 plus games, he upped his scoring and they still had the best offensive team in the league. I really had no problem with this
-07' dirk wasn't better then bean, but you can't tell me the 07' Mavs are a 67 win squad breh they had the best record, dirk had a great year so It was deserved IMO.

 

[Street Knowledge]

not me rose clearly was the mvp that year.i honor mvp's it shows that there is more to basketball then scoring.people think cuz u score the most points u the best

Your putting prime Kobe in a box of just being a scorer. That's the problem.

He was an all around player that gave you everything. Scoring defense facilitating rebounding etc.

 

[Gotright]

Your putting prime Kobe in a box of just being a scorer. That's the problem.

He was an all around player that gave you everything. Scoring defense facilitating rebounding etc.

yes he was for like 3 years no matter what kobe till top 10 all time

 

[LittleLordBboy]

What and when exactly was he supposed to win? His 2nd best player played 40 games throughout his tenure with tmac

One round in the playoffs? He's played in 44 playoff games in 15 years. He's 33 and already in the autumn of his career while Kobe was leading teams to the Finals at the same age. McGrady was an extremely talented offensive player but as a number 1 option he's not in Kobe's weight class. McGrady is a lot closer to a Chris Webber (who I also think is better than McGrady) than he is to a Kobe Bryant.

 

[Gotright]

One round in the playoffs? He's played in 44 playoff games in 15 years. He's 33 and already in the autumn of his career while Kobe was leading teams to the Finals at the same age. McGrady was an extremely talented offensive player but as a number 1 option he's not in Kobe's weight class. McGrady is a lot closer to a Chris Webber (who I also think is better than McGrady) than he is to a Kobe Bryant.

 

[LittleLordBboy]

Kobe Bryant:
5× NBA champion (2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010)
2× NBA Finals MVP (2009–2010)
NBA Most Valuable Player (2008)
14× NBA All-Star (1998, 2000–2012)
2× NBA scoring champion (2006–2007)
10× All-NBA First Team (2002–2004, 2006–2012)
2× All-NBA Second Team (2000–2001)
2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2005)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000, 2003–2004, 2006–2011)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2001–2002, 2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1997)
4× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2002, 2007, 2009, 2011)

Tracy McGrady
NBA Most Improved Player (2001)
7× NBA All-Star (2001–2007)
2× NBA scoring champion (2003–2004)
2× All-NBA First Team (2002–2003)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2001, 2004, 2007)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2005, 2008)

Please don't throw rocks at the throne! There is no era where TMac is a better basketball player than Kobe.