if soccer was the most popular sport in the United States

[Marvel]

you are !
your logic is literally "if deion sanders and bo jackson could play sports x and sports y because of athleticism then they could play any sport"

and I keep saying its fukking retarded since athleticism is nice but lots of sports athleticism isnt the end of everything.

running crazy fast and having lots of power and nice vertical doesnt make you all that great on the pitch. it does on the basketball court and on the football field.

messi is considered to be the best player in the world and hes a midget whose athleticism is worse than hundreds of players.
and yet he shyts on big, athletic defenders everywhere.

so we are going to act like Messi doesn't have superior athleticism? The guy moves like a damn jack rabbit...from those HGH injections he got as a kid that built his leg muscles.

Athleticism is not only speed, quickness, agility, strength, running, and jumping. Its includes foot/hand eye coordination, body control, anticipation, footwork, etc.

I think a lot of non-athletic people want to believe that soccer does not require athleticism to make themselves feel better.

Are we going to act like Zlatan Ibrahimović is not a 6'5" athlete that has been one of the best strikers in the last decade? Thierry Henry had sprinter speed and quickness and crazy athleticism, Ronaldo, Ronaldihno, etc. There is a reason that players like them come around every 10-20 years.

Its funny that when you listen to a commentator of a soccer game, they also talk about Pace. Its one the most important qualities of a lot of players that cannot be taught. Yet, we have people discounting pace as if the two best players in the world, C. Ronaldo and Messi don't have it

This one clip is a display of athleticism that only comes from a superior athlete

"You are watching a player of this speed, agility, creativity 1 on 1" - soccer commentator



"Y'all gon learn today" - Kevin Hart

 

[DalMem]

cant watch videos right now....but um is this little league ? I was talking about little league.
also, keep in mind that ranking != living at academy half the fukking day, eating their food and training half the day.

this little dude will go on and have a good life prolly, school and college he'll be
kids at soccer academy arent doing until their first youth contract.

AAU basketball is not little league dumbass. Those kids are trained from 8 to 18.

AAU produces the Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Derrick Rose, Chris Bosh, Kevin Durant, shyt almost every superstar in the league. AAU basketball is also over seas where the top kids in every country play each others in yearly tournaments.

Even Marc Gasol played AAU basketball over here at 16.

 

[yseJ]

no one said anything about soccer players not being athletic.
soccer is a product of athleticism, skill and stamina, yes

the problem here is that yall keep stating that if a world class athlete like deion was to take up soccer hed 100% succeed. no, he'd be a very athletic soccer player, but his overall effectiveness would depend on many other attributes.

youth soccer coaches dont really look at size or power of the kids in question, because everyone understands shyt can change. at early ages its all about technique and synergy on the field.

so if proverbial deion or bo could run and have a powerful shot at early age, but showed no technical feel of the game...hed be kicked out

 

[yseJ]

AAU basketball is not little league dumbass..

you are one retarded individual... I was quoting Malta aka Wilt's post, which was a response to me comparing little league to soccer academies...jesus christ, do you have higher education on your resume ?

 

[yseJ]

and yea I agree with closing/deleting this thread. its gone way too much, I need to stop being trolled so badly

 

[Malta]

no one said anything about soccer players not being athletic.
soccer is a product of athleticism, skill and stamina, yes

the problem here is that yall keep stating that if a world class athlete like deion was to take up soccer hed 100% succeed. no, he'd be a very athletic soccer player, but his overall effectiveness would depend on many other attributes.

youth soccer coaches dont really look at size or power of the kids in question, because everyone understands shyt can change. at early ages its all about technique and synergy on the field.

so if proverbial deion or bo could run and have a powerful shot at early age, but showed no technical feel of the game...hed be kicked out

No, it's not if Deion took up soccer as a grown man, it's that what if Deion, or any of our top athletes had picked soccer and stuck with that instead of what they currently play. It's what would happen if the NFL and NBA did not exist and the Billions of dollars that go to them, were then @ the disposal of our soccer programs with a pipeline to our top tier athletes.

I don't get why it's such a hard concept to understand, look at the NFL and NBA, and ask yourself if there are any comparable athletes to those guys on our soccer teams. Like I said before, there are people who outweigh Theo Walcott by 60-90lbs in the NFL that are just as fast or faster than him. That is the type of athlete America can produce, 6"2 230lbs and as fast as a dude who is 5"7 150lbs.

 

[DalMem]

no one said anything about soccer players not being athletic.
soccer is a product of athleticism, skill and stamina, yes

the problem here is that yall keep stating that if a world class athlete like deion was to take up soccer hed 100% succeed. no, he'd be a very athletic soccer player, but his overall effectiveness would depend on many other attributes.

youth soccer coaches dont really look at size or power of the kids in question, because everyone understands shyt can change. at early ages its all about technique and synergy on the field.

so if proverbial deion or bo could run and have a powerful shot at early age, but showed no technical feel of the game...hed be kicked out

What fukk are you talking about? No kid have size or power. They develop different skills for their sport like every other sport. Soccer isn't the only sports where kids develop skills for their sport dumbass.

Got Damn you are a dumbie. You are just trolling.

 

[Marvel]

and how did he do ? his team was awful, losing to germany 4-fukking nil, having arguably the best player in the world on the pitch and pretty damn good players around him.

and, um, brazil was NEVER super athletic. the brazilian league is all technique, with zero to no speed and tackling.

if you want to talk about good athletes, at least talk about england, germany, etc. historically teams with lots of stamina, power and lots of pace

and um, organized soccer is nothing like streetball. this aint no fukking pickup games.

If you decide to hire Maradona, what does that say about your previous coach and team. They only hired him because they thought he could inspire the players and not because of ability as a tactical coach. Most of the game, a players are out there on his own, there are no timeouts in soccer. The players are expected to adjust and create on the fly more than any other sport.

A manager is important in soccer, but he is not as important as in American football. I think we can all agree with that.

 

[yseJ]

No, it's not if Deion took up soccer as a grown man, it's that what if Deion, or any of our top athletes had picked soccer and stuck with that instead of what they currently play. It's what would happen if the NFL and NBA did not exist and the Billions of dollars that go to them, were then @ the disposal of our soccer programs with a pipeline to our top tier athletes.

I don't get why it's such a hard concept to understand, look at the NFL and NBA, and ask yourself if there are any comparable athletes to those guys on our soccer teams. Like I said before, there are people who outweigh Theo Walcott by 60-90lbs in the NFL that are just as fast or faster than him.

I understand the concept. what you fail to understand is that a better athlete !=better soccer player.

there are many super athletic soccer player that are terrible and no amount of more athleticism will make them better. shyt, basketball has that too...tyrus thomas comes to mind

you could be a world class athlete and still suck on the soccer field to the point when you cant make a pinpoint pass. you could be the best athlete in the world and still not be able to putt a shot on the green...and NO athleticism will help you.

 

[emoney]

It's a sport that relies on stamina, speed, agility and jumping ability......How do you dudes watch soccer and not see athleticism on display.

there's more to soccer/football than all of that...things like passing, shooting, ball control, positioning, having a good first touch, keeping ball possession..these are things that if you never master you will never be great on the pitch even with all that athleticism

Association football tactics and skills - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[DalMem]

there's more to soccer/football than all of that...things like passing, shooting, ball control, positioning, having a good first touch, keeping ball possession..these are things that if you never master you will never be great on the pitch even with all that athleticism

Association football tactics and skills - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like this is not the same for most team sports.

 

[SubZeroDegrees]

USA would be some kind of super Stoke, 6'8 freaks all over the place towering over these 5'5 dudes, sure we'd have horrible defense and passing and fitness but think of all those headers

We would definitely beat Barcelona on a cold winterly night in Green Bay

Also, Kunty is a cac?

 

[yseJ]

What fukk are you talking about? No kid have size or power.

They develop different skills for their sport like every other sport. Soccer isn't the only sports where kids develop skills for their sport dumbass.

I never argued that.
you are the one who is a "dumbie" and cant grasp a simple point that the most athletic players in the world might not be good enough to have natural and nurtured skills to play some sports.

 

[Grams]

Stoke City can beat Barcelona on a cold rainy Tuesday at home

 

[SubZeroDegrees]

The trolling in this thread tho