If Obama topples Bashar Al Assad...

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America took two years to 2 step into WWII and it was the Soviets which raided Berlin. But that has nothing to do with this. @Broke Wave this is not worse then Yugoslavia
 
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I agree with this. Removing Assad is not a magic pill. But alternatively standing by and watching him do what his dad did for 40 years is not the right approach either.

Any Akhs in this thread defending the Assad regime are out of their mind tho.


@Ritzy Sharon :mjpls: here are your safe alternative to the Israeli/Saudi/US axis of evil

The Hama massacre (Arabic: مجزرة حماة‎) occurred in February 1982, when the Syrian Arab Army and the Defense Companies, under the orders of the country's then-president, Hafez al-Assad, besieged the town of Hama for 27 days in order to quell an uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood against al-Assad's government.[1][2] The massacre, carried out by the Syrian Army supposedly under commanding General Rifaat al-Assad, President Assad's younger brother, effectively ended the campaign begun in 1976 by Sunni Islamic groups, including the Muslim Brotherhood, against the government.
Initial diplomatic reports from Western countries stated that 1,000 were killed.[3][4] Subsequent estimates vary, with the lower estimates claiming that at least 10,000 Syrian citizens were killed,[5] while others put the number at 20,000 (Robert Fisk),[1] or 40,000 (Syrian Human Rights Committee).[6][2] About 1,000 Syrian soldiers were killed during the operation and large parts of the old city were destroyed. Alongside such events as Black September in Jordan,[7] the attack has been described as one of "the single deadliest acts by any Arab government against its own people in the modern Middle East".[8] The vast majority of the victims were civilians.[9]
According to Syrian media, anti-government rebels initiated the fighting, who "pounced on our comrades while sleeping in their homes and killed whomever they could kill of women and children, mutilating the bodies of the martyrs in the streets, driven, like mad dogs, by their black hatred." Security forces then "rose to confront these crimes" and "taught the murderers a lesson that has snuffed out their breath".[10]


So it's Assad's Family fault for Muslim Brotherhood takeover in Syria? You might want to read alittle bit more than excerpts from wikipedia.
 

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@the next guy in this NSA world we shouldn't talk about going to fight wars for shady rebel groups that could be affiliated with al qaeda, friend ;)



@geordie_dru I thought you were disagreeing with me, but maybe you were just downplaying America's involvement in ww2. If we agree then :ehh: I take back my statement on you having a bad reading of history.

As far as being a Takfiri, how can I make Takfir on people who are openly and already not Muslims? It may come as a shock that Shia's are not Muslims, a lot of people don't know that and that is fine, but everybody on earth who knows Alawi's knows they are not Muslims.

This war has nothing to do with me making Takfir or anyone being a Muslim, it has to do with 1 disgusting brutal dictator and his date with this
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@the next guy in this NSA world we shouldn't talk about going to fight wars for shady rebel groups that could be affiliated with al qaeda, friend ;)



@geordie_dru I thought you were disagreeing with me, but maybe you were just downplaying America's involvement in ww2. If we agree then :ehh: I take back my statement on you having a bad reading of history.

As far as being a Takfiri, how can I make Takfir on people who are openly and already not Muslims? It may come as a shock that Shia's are not Muslims, a lot of people don't know that and that is fine, but everybody on earth who knows Alawi's knows they are not Muslims.

This war has nothing to do with me making Takfir or anyone being a Muslim, it has to do with 1 disgusting brutal dictator and his date with this
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I don't want to spin the thread again with another topic but...
I know very little about Islam and its history, but don't Shia believe in one god and Mohammed as the prophet, I thought that was the definition of a Muslim :yeshrug:
 

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@Broke Wave gave my mind a beating with the logical of a better Syria under us.
Lol nah bro I was trolling. I don't think the international community should do anything.

They should just let Bashar slaughter his people and let the war drag on and on, my bad bro's :heh:

Chemical weapons? It was done by the rebels in order to bring about international action. Evidence? Do I need evidence to substantiate any claims?

All the slaughter from the air, all staged or Israel/Mossad. Bashar is fighting the cleanest war in the history of the world. He has not committed a single war crime.

Why doesn't the regime allow any independent journalists around the site or around anywhere in Syria? Why are they being killed by Assad's regime? Why aren't U.N. observers on the ground if he is really fighting terrorists?

I don't want to spin the thread again with another topic but...
I know very little about Islam and its history, but don't Shia believe in one god and Mohammed as the prophet, I thought that was the definition of a Muslim :yeshrug:

Lol well you used a term "Takfiri" which indicates a knowledge about Islam, but the Shia don't believe in the same god so they are not muslims.
 

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@the next guy in this NSA world we shouldn't talk about going to fight wars for shady rebel groups that could be affiliated with al qaeda, friend ;)



@geordie_dru I thought you were disagreeing with me, but maybe you were just downplaying America's involvement in ww2. If we agree then :ehh: I take back my statement on you having a bad reading of history.

As far as being a Takfiri, how can I make Takfir on people who are openly and already not Muslims? It may come as a shock that Shia's are not Muslims, a lot of people don't know that and that is fine, but everybody on earth who knows Alawi's knows they are not Muslims.

This war has nothing to do with me making Takfir or anyone being a Muslim, it has to do with 1 disgusting brutal dictator and his date with this
1375735415095.jpg

;) Very true friend. I'll leave that.
 
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Lol well you used a term "Takfiri" which indicates a knowledge about Islam, but the Shia don't believe in the same god so they are not muslims.

What I meant was Im not confident in my knowedge of the history and as an outsider there could be things I've overlooked or misunderstood, "takfiri" is a commonly used phrase in current affairs

How is it a different god if they use the Koran?
 
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